| Re: What do you guys think of this motor ? |
Subject: Re: What do you guys think of this motor ? by jsup on 2008/11/28 6:46:58 Look, when I went off track was when the first question was "what are the heads"....let's not pretend we don't know the underlying comments that were coming forth following that. My point, my irritation, my insanity, is that this is a perfect example where we can pick apart every aspect of this motor from the carb, to the cam, to the intake. Like I said, here's a motor where every part was selected for torque, as that was the spec. With all the moving parts in a motor all the other parts to choose from, the first thing we go to is to make the point "that's not enough head" and "what heads do you have"? If the goal, the stated purpose, was torque, it was the perfect head given the choices. How do we know this? They made torque. I'm sick of talking about heads myself. I'd perfer to talk about cam attack and how it effects this motor, or the intake, or anything other than heads. I didn't bring heads into this. But it was clear where it was going to go, at least to eme. Why do we have to go directly to looking toward the heads as a weakness and start having the conversation on that basis. As I pointed out in post 24 there are a lot of things that could cause it. Let's talk about how that COMBINATION got the the result. Seems Ron is under the opinion the entire problem with this motor is the heads and the fix is AFR. That's where this was going to go. You know it, I know it, Ron knows it. Remember, this was a purpose built motor, and torque was goal, and given the sponsor of the article, that's another revelation we had tonight that a manufacturer sponsoring a magazine article is not valid but I digress, perhaps that was the best head DART had to make TORQUE. If they were going for power it would have been a different DART head for HP. And there's no telling if that Dart head would or would not have out performed an AFR if the goal was HP. But that is not what was going to be discussed. Just how throwing a fully CNC'd 210 on there would have made more power. That was the discussion which got under my skin. I know you didn't start this about AFR or anything else, but that's where we were going. THEN, as Ron likes to do (and ron, I love ya man) is to frame the argument around THIS setup built for torque with his "kmart heads" or whatever it was. History tells me the criteria for the right head on this motor would have been, oh I don't know, small ports big flow? History tells me where that was going too. He started framing the argument in a particular way that there was only one solution. SO anyway, at 1:46, I have this laptop that I can't even find stupid drivers for, dam dell, and I'm writing crap on the interweb about two hunks of metal. I should have drank more today...oh well, tomorrow. |
