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Re: Transmission question

Subject: Re: Transmission question
by BeachBum on 2008/12/31 19:27:14

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dan0617 wrote:

My 2800 stall is a loose 2800. When I stand it up on the brakes the car does start pushing ahead at about 2600 rpms. But, when I was spraying with the old combo (CC503 cam, reworked 113's, HSR intake, 175 shot), it would shift at 6200, then only drop to 5100 rpms. The entire pass it was between 5100 and 6200 rpms. When I didn't spray the rpms would drop to about 4400 after the shifts. Must be the more power put to it, the higher it stalls. I'm thinking with the new combo I'll run it to about 6300 rpms and I'll bet it only drops to about 5300 after the shifts. My peak hp should be at about 5800. With my converter never letting the rpms drop below about 5300, do you really think a higher stall would help my times? I was thinking since it is such a loose 2800 stall it wasn't hurting much, and any more of a punch on the launch might toast the D36 instantly. What do you think of it all? Do you still think I should be considering a converter swap now? If so maybe I'll start looking into it.


In my opinion, naturally aspirated, I definitely think a looser torque converter will help you significantly. Honestly, the more converter you give it, the faster you'll go up to a point. On your set-up, without knowing more, I would say that would be around 4400 rpm converter. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying loosen it up that far, that would be a bit sloppy on the street, but your 60's would go down, bearing in mind, 80%+ of your et gained or loss for a given HP value will be earned in the first 60 ft.

I think a 3400-3600 rpm converter would really wake it up off the line.... your 383 HSR set-up will actually be capable of 1.4x 60's if you optimized the converter, but with a 3400-3600, you should be deep 1.5's on motor.

You may be aware of Vic89 on the CF.... he has a 350-ported heads-MR-ZZ9 combination that used to be owned by Wheelsup on the east coast..... when Wheels-up had that motor in his C4, he broke into the high 10's with a 4000+ converter in it and a little weight loss, I knew Wheelsup pretty good back then and drilled him on the set-up... it was the real deal. He sold the motor to Vic, who's raceweight was only another 100 or so pounds.... Vic put in I think a 2800 rpm converter and the motor couldn't get out of its own way..... I think he was stuck in the 12's..... he loosened up the converter to approxmiately 4000 rpm, immediately the motor runs mid 11's in summer air and has gone a best of 11.3x in good air.

My point to the above, the loose converter is the secret to Vic running mid to low 11's on a stock 350 shortblock, mild hyd roller cam, ported heads....your HSR, albeit it makes a little bit more torque than the MR Vic used below the peak, the torque curve is still pretty close to an MR.....and thus have a similar effect to converter flash rpm.

The end result, if I was you, I'd get your new motor completely dialed in before even thinking about the Nitrous..... a 383 HSR in a C4, with a 3400-3600 rpm converter should be good for very bottom 11's on motor alone and even maybe high 10's in good air..... throw a 175 shot at it after that, and you're not going to be thinking about mid 10's at 128 mph, and instead high 9's, or at least low 10's at well over 130 mph.
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