Subject: Re: Engine swap on the C1 by jsup on 2008/11/15 15:16:58
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Matatk wrote: Quote:
jsup wrote:
In my court, I'd rule for the plaintiff, replace the fkn head you cheap bastard. This was a known problem with many heads, no one has argued that core shift hasn't happened. The argument made by AFR is a straw horse. It has nothing to do with the core sift condition that existed before the head was put on a machine.
Good thing you're not a judge, then.
Unfortunately, the heads were poked through by the aftermarket cnc process. However, AFR delivered a product that in stock form performed as it was intended. Just because someone attempted to change the stock qualities and it was damaged, that's the consumer's (and shop's) fault. If you bored out an engine block oversized and it went through the cylinder wall, is that chevy's fault? Nope. They provided a product that worked as intended.
Now that being said, do I think it's unfortunate? Yes. I think if AFR wanted to offer a set of heads at cost, that would be a stand up thing. But they are not responsible for someone else making changes to their design.
Larry - what heads, if you don't mind, did you end up going with for the second round?
Matthew
Ok, I'll try again.
I am not arguing that the CNC didn't expose the problem.
Here's the question.....
The problem existed before the CNC touched it right? At that point it should have been replaced, right?
Did the CNC cause the problem? I haven't seen that argument. The CNC caused A problem, but the at isn't what rendered it worthless. It was the core shift that made them useless before the CNC touched them.
You skipped over the core issue here of weather or not core shift existed, regardless of the discovery. It's the core shift that made the heads worthless, not the CNCing. Or do you think I'm wrong?
I mean is it standard practice to have to check for core shift and they didn't? I don't know that answer.
I do understand the point of how it was discovered, and initially bought into it.
