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RE:Paint/autobody: Anybody here do their own work?
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You can do it, Ive used an HVLP gun before, they are great. Once miced the paint in that little cup goes further than you think it will. Mix each batch the same it will come out the same. The one I used was a middle of the road (not expensive, not the cheapest but erring on the cheaper side) and I was suprised how good it came out.
Take your time....If you have to have someone that really knows paint give you the rundown on mixing...I understand outside temps can change things. Had to have someone help me dothe mixing and gove me a few quick tips on spraying. Do it.


I had 3 standard sprayguns and an airbrush. I used a HPLV once and figured I'd neven go back to a regular gun.

On mixing, the graduated, clear plastic mixing cups are great. They'll get you the same mix every time.

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RE:Paint/autobody: Anybody here do their own work?
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Qack!!

You aren't helping me at all. You are supposed to tell me just what I want to hear and forget about all those facts you keep posting.

My self esteem has dropped dramatically and My Sliver Metallic car is not getting painted in my garage.....and it is all your fault!!


No, you don't want to paint your Vette in the garage. I guarantee you won't be happy. You'll get dust in the paint,etc. Even grounding the frame to the floor won't totally stop it. Vettes are electrostatic dust magnets.

Do what Andy said about the prep and have it shot in a spraybooth.

In your other post about the gun size, one standard HPLV would be used to paint the entire car, door jams, everything.

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RE:Paint/autobody: Anybody here do their own work?
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You're absolutely correct.
I've been lucky. I usually do it when I'm done painting, after the paint flashes to keep the dust down.

I want to put an explosion proof fan in the shop I'm going to build.
Not cheap, a 16inch with shutters is $550. Yea, cheaper than a burntdown garage.

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RE:Paint/autobody: Anybody here do their own work?
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I've done all my own for years including fiberglass.
You sure can beat the budget shops because you'll take your time.
I've used the plastic stuff many times. I screwed some 1 x 2's into the ceiling so I could attach the plastic with a staple gun. The 1 x 2's are about 2 ft away from the wall so they cover the toolbox, drillpress, etc. I overlap 2 pieces of plastic by 3 ft, this eliminates having to tape the whole seam and I don't get overspray leaking out.
I just use an old bedroom fan with the garage door sitting on top of it for exhaust and use 2x4's to hold down the plastic on the floor.
One of the problems with this setup is getting enough light inside the "booth". I just got 2 new halogen work lites but haven't tried them yet and would probably put them outside the booth since they ger so hot.

I would get HPLV guns even if you have to wait for the compressor to catch up. The gravity guns can put enough mist in your "booth" to make it hard to see. I'm using a compressor smaller than yours with a HPLV trim gun.
You'll probably need the booth for your truck inrterior but, spraying trim parts, even an engine block with a HPLV can be done with just plastic on the floor and won't mess up your shop.

Paints are all over the place in quality and ease of use. I liKe PPG 2 part Urethanes, they hold up really well and prevent chips better than anything I've used except Emron. The problem is that they're expensive. A quart of Corvette yellow to do my racecar was over $150 plus the catalyst.
I found some new paint on the web by Kirker that I want to try. The most expensive gallon was $66 plus activator.
If you want to puke, price the "House of Color" stuff.
For custom work, I use AutoAirColor and to go inexpensive, I use model car paint. You can get some cool pearls by Boyd Cottington at a hobbyshop for $4 a can, spray it from the can and coat with PPG clear with no problems. Most say don't mix brands but I do all the time on custon stuff (wouldn't paint my Vette that way though). I've done quite a few helmits like this.

If you're gonna primer the interior of your truck, I use a 2 part epoxy primer, it's really worth the money down the road.

Try these: www.autobodytoolmart.com (has the Kirker paint but gun prices are a little high)

www.spraygundepot.com ( good prices and a bunch of links)
check out Devilbiss "FinishLine" guns, very good quality and reasonable.

Don't get a HPLV from HarborFT, A friend got one, used it once and threw it away.

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RE:Bleeding brakes
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What about using a "Mity Vac" Vacuum pump? I had read somewhere that this makes it pretty easy. Hook up the hose to the end of the bleeder, open the bleeder and pump the fluid into the bottle close the bleeder, move to the next caliper, repeat, unitl all four are done. Am I missing something here?

This is one of the little jobs that I am planning for this winter, I bought a Mity Vac and Ford Blue brake fluid.

Bogus the article couldn't come at a better time.


The one thing I don't like about the Mity Vac is that the adapters for the bleeders tend to leak air at times making you think that the bubbles are coming from the caliper. This can happen with straight hose too.
I also get tired of pumping the lever when doing a complete fluid change.
I like the speedbleeders.

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RE:Did a code check
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Hey Case, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. C12 is no codes stored in the CCM but if you have a code in any module the C12 won't show up.

It does on mine, C12 shows there is no DTCs present in the CCM module (module 1). The other modules are only displayed through the CCM (module 4 being ECM, module 9 being ASR/ABS, and module A being air bag).


OK, agreed. I was confused when you said "other 3 modules" . If I get a C12 when the key is turned on and then go to 1.1 to display any errors, I get 3 dashes.
If any DTC's are present, they show at key on and then show up in the specific modlue as it cycles thru the 3, correct?

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RE:Did a code check
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If you got 3 dashes in 9.7, you cleared it. If you leave the paperclip in and turn the key off, then back on. You should see C-12 first, then it will cycle thru 1.0, 4.0 and 9.0, and should show 3 dashes at each one.

I don't think starting the car is necessary for this particular problem.
Unhooking the battery probably won't change anything but it's worth a shot.

Starting the car wont do anything for it. C12 is only related to the CCM, its got no relation with the other 3 modules.


Hey Case, I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here. C12 is no codes stored in the CCM but if you have a code in any module the C12 won't show up.

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RE:Did a code check
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Yep, youve gotta do all that, and id have to say, if the codes were cleared, when the vehicle is started the MIL lamps should all go out, including the ABS and ASR lamps until you reach the 3mph test, if they are not going out, id say youve got some sort of a short to ground in there, or other electrical issue.


Couple of things:

1) I'm aware of the fact that there are a number of things that could cause the code to be thrown, but if I know where to look for the "valve solenoid" then I could maybe trace down a faulty wire or bad ground somewhere.

2) Maybe I'm not erasing the code the right way. I'm pretty sure I went to 9.7, got it to show three dashes, but then I turned the car off and pulled the paperclip out. Should I start the car after getting the dashes? Or what do you mean but "other electrical issue"?


If you got 3 dashes in 9.7, you cleared it. If you leave the paperclip in and turn the key off, then back on. You should see C-12 first, then it will cycle thru 1.0, 4.0 and 9.0, and should show 3 dashes at each one.

I don't think starting the car is necessary for this particular problem.
Unhooking the battery probably won't change anything but it's worth a shot.

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RE:Even More New Sections!
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I'd kinda like to see a racing section separate from the events section (car shows, cruises,etc.). There's some guys here that do a lot of track stuff.
And, I'd rather see the drag and roadracing in the same section since I like them both.

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RE:Did a code check
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On the 92, almost everything will show up as an "H" except tha C12 (no codes). I think this happens when you shut off the key and any codes get stored.

In module 9, the H63 is Valve Solenoid Relay Fault ( Valve Solenoid Circuit Error on Andy's sheet, same thing).
Yep, looks like that will trigger the ASR/ABS lites.
When the ign is on, this realy provides voltage to activete the solenoids and provides a ground path for the "service abs" lamp.
Service ABS and service ASR lites will be on and a code 63 will be set when the Valve Solenoid relay voltage falls to less that 5 volts.

I'd first try and reset that code, go to 9.7 to reset, and see if it comes back and the lites go out.

If not, BURN the Chilton. The diagnosis is on page 5E1-82 in the real manual.

BTW, I want your wheels for my Black Rose.


Thanks for the info. Like I said, I'm pretty sure I deleted the code the first time around, and the lights never went off. When I did the check again, the code either came back or was still there. Where is this Valve Solenoid at if I need to change it?


Like CFI said, you gotta test it. You can't do that without the manual and IF it's bad, you can't replace the unit without the manual.
I put my manuals back down in the shop and am feeling lazy right now. I'll try and check in the morning, it takea a while to find this chit in the manuals sometimes, the location isn't shown on the diagnosis page.
But, Im betting it's behind the driver's seat in the ABS compartment.

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RE:Did a code check
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Where is this Valve Solenoid at if I need to change it?
You will never know if it is defective, unless you TEST it. Otherwise, all you are doing is throwing money and parts at the problem in hopes that the "shot gun" method will end up hitting something. A code identifies the circuit or sensor that sent a "bad" or out of parameter reading. It does not state the cause of that bad reading. After the code is identified, you must diagnose the cause of the code. Take an O2 for instance. If you get a code that reports a rich mixture, does that mean the O2 is bad? Or does it mean that because of some, yet to be discovered problem, that there really WAS a rich mixture. The same is true, especially, of codes pertaining to the EGR valve. Seldom, when there is an EGR code, is the EGR valve the cause. The [color=blue:906514afca]FSM[/color:906514afca] tells how to extract the codes, what circuit or device each code is related to, and most importantly, a trouble shooting chart to help you diagnose and track down the CAUSE of the problem, minimizing the expense of unneeded parts. The book isn't cheap, but depending on the job and the potential for false diagnoses, it can pay for itself in one job. Plus it has a lot of neat reading where you can learn a lot about how the systems in your car work.

RACE ON!!!

Well Said
On thing I've over the years when purchasing a car/truck is add $100 to the money I'm planning to spend for the correct shop manual. And you get to keep them if you sell. I've got manuals and suppliments for 63,64,65, 6 & 7, 76 & 92 Vettes as well as a bunch of Chevy trucks.
Manuals are like tools, once you've got a good one, you can't figure how you lived without it.

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RE:Did a code check
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On the 92, almost everything will show up as an "H" except tha C12 (no codes). I think this happens when you shut off the key and any codes get stored.

In module 9, the H63 is Valve Solenoid Relay Fault ( Valve Solenoid Circuit Error on Andy's sheet, same thing).
Yep, looks like that will trigger the ASR/ABS lites.
When the ign is on, this realy provides voltage to activete the solenoids and provides a ground path for the "service abs" lamp.
Service ABS and service ASR lites will be on and a code 63 will be set when the Valve Solenoid relay voltage falls to less that 5 volts.

I'd first try and reset that code, go to 9.7 to reset, and see if it comes back and the lites go out.

If not, BURN the Chilton. The diagnosis is on page 5E1-82 in the real manual.

BTW, I want your wheels for my Black Rose.

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RE:What is a "quieter" type air compressor
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By insulated exhaust, I mean just a small bathroom ceiling fan, controlled by a thermostat, mounted inside the enclosure, and the exhaust should not be a straight shot or it will leak too much noise. You can install sound baffles in the duct or just route it with a few changes of direction between your enclosure and the outside. Lined duct helps too, or even just a drywall chase with duct liner screwed to it.

And pull the fresh air from inside the workspace, again, a few changes of direction keeps it quieter.

And of course the compressor should be isolated properly from the ground.


I didn't think of a bathroom fan, that probably would work pretty well.
I was also was thinking about the compressor in the race shop. It's a 60 gal. upright, Craftsman professional. It sits in a 4 x 5 ft room with 8 ft ceiling and no ventalation. It's been there 5 years with no problems even on hot days.

Also, I think I found the compressor I'm going to get. Got a catalog from Autobody Toolmart showing a new Ingersol-Rand single stage compressor.
3 horse, 240v. , 11.3cfm@90, 135 psi max.
$635, and $35 for the starter.

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RE:Last StingRay Auction Video from Barrett Jackson
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My 67 Coupe's only a measily 300 horse smallblock.
But I bought it for $3,000.


That be good enough for me!! I'd still be out in the garage every day lookin' at that baby.
Your descritpion needs photos too, I might add!

Glad you got one!


Yea, well, I bought it a loooong time ago. It's totally apart right now, body off. I'm probably going to build a new shop before I start working on it again.

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RE:Last StingRay Auction Video from Barrett Jackson
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My 67 Coupe's only a measily 300 horse smallblock.
But I bought it for $3,000.

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RE:What is a "quieter" type air compressor
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I have an oiled, belt driven 110 compressor. It was the biggest 110 I could find. It's quieter than most of your options but still not all that quiet, if I ran it late at night inside my garage it would surely get the neighbors attention. I could probably help it with a muffler. When I build a shop it's going inside an insulated closet with an insulated exhaust fan.

When comparing, look at the dB ratings if they're published. Some brands make it a point to make their compressors quiet.


Have you done any reaearch into the insulated exhaust fans yet? I'm planning to build a shop in about a year. I haven't dug too far but the fans I've seen ain't cheap, like $300 for a 12 inch without the shutters ($80).

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RE:Am I crazy for wanting another Corvette?
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If ya get 2, you'll just want 3. If ya get 3 you'll just want 4. :thumbleft:
I've got a C2 and a C4 and I'm just wetting my pants over an 82 vintage racer that's for sale right now.

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RE:My 2 cylinder rice burner is more fun than my Corvette!
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I've got a 750 Yamaha but I don't ride it much. I can't just cruise on a bike, I always want to attack every corner and rub my knee. I also have a 250 Yamaha and a 480 Honda motocrosser so I uaually ride them instead of the 750.

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RE:Dropped my drill :(
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I have a full set of 18Volt Dewalt cordless. They're pretty common and there's a ton of different tools offered to change your batteries between.

Their hammer drill is a real nice piece! Makes every other cordless I've had feel like a toy.

They also have 30V ones now, but that seemed like overkill for what I need.


I think Dewalt makes some of the best stuff for the money. I don't have any of their cordless yet but, the corded grinder and sanders I have are about 10 years old and work as good as when they were new.

My 14.4 Ryobi drill batterys lasted 4 years. Got them rebuilt at BatteriesPlus for $22 each.
My 12v. Snap On impact is 10 years ols and the batterys are finally starting to go.

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RE:Wiring project initiated
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Scary, did you get thet fire system installed?

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RE:Random tech tip of the day
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on my 92, I don't think the hatch lights ever go off.

As an aside, if you leave your turn signals on, after about 1 miles, the headlight bonger will alert you.


On my 92 also, the hatch open will run the battery down. The door lites will go off like Evil's 96.

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RE:94-94 1/2 optispark?
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Yea, the pin assignments on the 92 are the same but the wire colors are different.



Here's the wire connections:
92 LT1 MSD

black/red(stripe) to brown/yellow - low resolution
purple/white to brown/orange - hi res
yellow to red - 12 volt
black/pink to red/green - ground

The 5th wire in the LT1 harness is a ground/shielding wire. It's not needed on the MSD Opti. It doesn't connect to anything on the GM Opti either, just wraped around the other 4 wires for shielding.

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RE:94-94 1/2 optispark?
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A note on the MSD. The connector won't fit the 92 wiring harness. It's not a big deal, just a 4 wire solder and heat shrink.
This info's not in the MSD instructions unless they changed recently.
I have the wiring diagran/connections if anyone wants them.

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