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Since I will keep the "new", at least to me, Corvette will remain stock and it is tucked away for the winter, I thought y'all might be interested in the latest project. It is semi-Corvette related as it involves a LS variant motor!
The Heep is under the knife and the 4.0 I6 is going to be replaced with a 5.3 "LS" (Vortec) motor. I must confess that I am not doing the work and a shop out of Rogersville, MO is doing the heavy lifting to get the project done. All of the driveline, with the exception of the rear axle, is getting swapped. The motor will be a 5.3, the trans will be a 4L60E, I'm taking the rear half of the Jeep transfer case (NP231J) and mating it to the front half of a Chevy transfer case (NP231CHD), new driveshafts, new D44 front axle (sleeved and gusseted) with air locker and much, much more. If there is interest, I'll post pictures as the project progresses. Here is what the motor will look like (less the FAST intake) Attach file: Motor.jpg (0.00 KB) |
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Very cool - indeed, gotta see pics of that project!
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Interesting indeed
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Wow! I love these projects. If I ever had another car it would be an ls motor.
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It is a TJ. I purchased it stock, with a 4 inch lift. The rear axle was a d35, which is as weak as a dried out twig. So, the first mod was to install a Ford 8.8 with an Artec truss. Durango Boy from Corvetteguru had a hand in that project. After adding some armor, highline fenders and recovery equipment, I started having fun off road. After having too much fun on an outing, I found the weak link. The d30 front axle is ok, but did give way. The short side of the front axle u joint snaped, which caused the axle ears to eat themselves, which pushed out the lower ball joint. So, time for a new front axle. Well, if I get a new front axle, the shafts must be sized and cut. So, if half of the front is in parts, time for the motor swap. "While I'm at it.....". This has been planned for some time, the axle was the excuse to get it done.
Here is a few pictures of the 8.8 [URL=http://s229.photobucket.com/user/awheel73_photo/media/Jeep/IMG_4074.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s229.photobucket.com/user/awheel73_photo/media/Jeep/201203714_04.jpg.html][/URL] Having fun on the trail. [URL=http://s229.photobucket.com/user/awheel73_photo/media/Jeep/IMG_20130323_144625_992_zps3c7abc04.jpg.html][/URL] Having too much fun on the trail [URL=http://s229.photobucket.com/user/awheel73_photo/media/IMG_20130818_203544_510_zpsa47caa44.jpg.html][/URL] As it sits before conversion [URL=http://s229.photobucket.com/user/awheel73_photo/media/Jeep/IMG_20130514_192159_652_zpsa13438f0.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s229.photobucket.com/user/awheel73_photo/media/Jeep/IMG_20130514_192047_337_zps3178ae24.jpg.html][/URL] The LS conversion starts this weekend. I will post progress as I get pictures. |
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I love it. I want to put an LS in everything these days!
In the past 18 months or so I have done 6 LS swaps, although they were all rotated around into and out of various Corvettes... |
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I'd like to see that engine resting in that Vega in the corner!
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Frank | Re: Stuffing an LS motor into the Jeep! | ||
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Interest? You bet there is. I have a 1955 CJ3B that has a 1962 Chevy 283 in it. Would love to see pics when you get a chance!
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Andrew | Re: Stuffing an LS motor into the Jeep! | ||
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Frank, those 50's CJ3B's are very fun vehicles. I've never driven one with a V8, now that would be a blast. What is the weight of one of those, 2500 pounds? The guy doing the heavy lifting on the project has another Jeep project, don't know the year, but it is a 50's era model, which is getting worked over 6.0 LS motor.
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2,500 is about right. It is a blast to drive. Way too much engine for the original drive train (she's tachin high at around 64 mph). The other side of that is when I need to punch it there's noooo problem getting the tires going. Just saw the pics of your Jeep. Awesome Jeep.
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Some progress has been made on the Jeep. Sharing pictures of it, getting ready for the new driveline. Will post more once reassembly is in progress. The shop doing the work has been great to deal with so far.
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That's a messy shop. I'd have a crisis trying to perform a drive train swap in a project with things thrown around like that. LOL.
I'm happy to see the project is moving forward. I wish I could have played a bigger role in the LS swap portion, but there was way too big of an upside to having it done by a shop. |
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Ha, I hear ya DB. The shop isn't the cleanest, but they take on projects most shops will not touch. I have seen Chrysler, Ford and GM vehicles getting LS swaps there. They do everything from tractor/trailer work, building their own wiring harness, reprogramming, fabricating and much more. Some of the more unique jobs include stuffing a GM LT1 into a late model RAM and extending the frame over 10 feet and rebuild a rear box to a semi - box truck.
Thought y'all might be interested to see the latest project (check out the lower right vehicle). It is getting an LS 6.0. [URL=http://s229.photobucket.com/user/awheel73_photo/media/1525399_611927718856074_1546222664_n_zpsc9e96d2a.jpg.html][/URL] |
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Sorry, pictures were moved...
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That's an interesting project. The LS series engine is the thing right now. They have huge potential.
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I love the garage! That 58 needs some love!!
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Frame is notched, motor mounts are done and engine is in! Lots of things left to do. The motor is actually Chevy orange.... looks like a different color in the picture.
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Looking good!!
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More updates
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Fits a lot better than I thought it would
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I am not surprised, actually. The last few years, the Wrangler has had a V6... and the LSx architecture is smaller than many V6s! Especially OHC or DOHC V6s.
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the truck intake is kind of tall
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There is actually lots of room left, which is amazing. The motor actually looks smaller than the 4.0 boat anchor. Believe it or not, I think the motor may be lighter as well.
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The LSx was designed very compactly. I agree with Andrew on this.
If you compare, side by side, the LSx to any other V8, it will be smaller, by quite a margin. Look at the DOHC Ford V8s, or the BMW DOHC V8s, they are large... The LSx is compact. I read somewhere they used engine design concepts akin to motorcycle engines. |
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Motor, transmission, tcase - all mechanicals are in. Still need the cut front and rear driveshafts. At this point, time for plumbing the fuel and wiring. The garage hopes to have it running by the end of the week.
Doesn't this look like fun!! Looks like a nightmare to me. [URL=http://s229.photobucket.com/user/awheel73_photo/media/Jeep/JeepWiring_zps57db36cf.jpg.html][/URL] |
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oooh!! Exciting!
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The finish line is in sight! Glad they know what they're doing ;-)
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Wiring, wiring and more wiring!!! GRRRR....
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The Jeep is running and I should get it back within the next week or so. Everything is turning out really nice. The only tell tale sign that a V8 is under the hood is the B&M shifter (see picture below). It even looks like the original manual trans. shifter, however the stock manual shift lever would not work. Other than that, everything looks and works just like stock (tach, speedo, oil pressure, temp, cruise, AC, etc., etc.)
Also, the garage added some bling under the hood that was a surprise to me. Since my last name is Wheeler, he wanted to incorporate that into the build somewhere, so they made a fan shroud extension, with the words "Weekend Wheeler" on it. Once I get it back home and cleaned up, I'll list all of the pieces needed to do this conversion, post some pictures and give you an idea how the thing drives. [URL=http://s229.photobucket.com/user/awheel73_photo/media/Jeep/IMG_20140321_101215_336_zpse00940f4.jpg.html][/URL] [URL=http://s229.photobucket.com/user/awheel73_photo/media/Jeep/970143_10201765654807535_1136076430_n-1_zpsa379b2b8.jpg.html][/URL] |
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Excellent! A video will be mandatory ;-)
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Got the Jeep back this weekend! Wow, does it drive differently. It is "twitchy" to say the least. As light as the sprung weight is on the Jeep, it will cycle trough to 3rd gear before hitting 10 mph while driving slow. The torque just pulls it forward. It will also go 70 nicely.
The only bummer under the hood is that the engine cover would not allow the hood to close, so all of the wiring is exposed. There are a few bugs that I have uncovered and will be taking it back to the shop in May to have sorted out. It will be fun breaking it in! They guy who did the work took it out before I could ride or drive it to test it out. He put it in 4 high and mashed the gas. It was a little dark out and all I could see was the headlights jump up in the air and the sound the V8 screaming with the off road tread eating up the ground. It all held together and I don't see anything breaking as I will not drive it nearly that hard, especially in locked 4wd! I will work on getting a short video of it running this evening and a few pictures. The engine is very dirty right now, so no comments about all the dirt!! |
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Cool, can't wait for the vid.
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I want the hear how it performs on the trail as it was designed!
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