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shakedown067 Dual Purpose Seats for C4
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The car is pretty much my daily driver as it's just a lot more fun to drive than my truck. But I'm starting to do more autocross events and possibly some HPDE events with her and am looking at getting better seats. The covers need to be replaced anyway so I'd rather have a nice pair of race seats than refinish the stockers. I'd prefer to have a nice fixed back seat as I drive pretty straight up as it is. Below is the one i'm currently looking at, but I want to try it out to make sure I fit first.

http://www.saferacer.com/sparco-chron ... -seat.html?productid=1337

Whatcha think? Any other options that ya'll suggest?
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BillH Re: Dual Purpose Seats for C4
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Nice.
Also take a look at Cobra.
This is something that you'll have to do your homework on like buying a helmit.
It's worth it to visit the local race shops and sit in the seats.
All these seats will make getting in the car a bit harder because you have to get your butt over the support but, IMO it's not that bad.

Another thing to consider is used Sparcos. One of my students got a set in mint condition for his C5 for $200 each.

You may also need seat rails to do the install right and to get better belt mounting locations. Gary at Hardbar makes some of the best.

Don't get a 5 point, get a 6.
When you decide to buy belts, you may want to look at G-Force camloc. They're well made and about 1/3 the price of the belts I use.
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CentralCoaster Re: Dual Purpose Seats for C4
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Do you have dual power seats or a single? I would look at mounting them on manual seat racks.

I don't like the idea of not being about to recline the seats, I'll probably look for some type of 2-pc seat when the time comes, or modify the stock seats and leather to accomodate a 5pt harness.
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I don't like the idea of not being about to recline the seats, I'll probably look for some type of 2-pc seat when the time comes, or modify the stock seats and leather to accomodate a 5pt harness.


I remember seeing the mod "over there" a long time ago.
Did a quick search. $25 for the grommets.
These look a tad close together, would be better on a C4 seat.

http://www.c5racer.com/catalog/Race-Gear-Racing-Harness,-Belts,-Bars/c220_222/index.html?page=4

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I never move my seat so I'm not worried about the recline feature. Just set the angle with the seat mounts and I'm done. I only have the drivers side power seat track and I'd certainly ditch that for manual. New seat tracks would be in order. The modified seats, while interesting and I have a guy that could do it, is not what I want. I want a seat that will keep me planted in one spot better.

Thanks, you made find one that's even more expensive...
http://www.cobraseatsusa.com/products ... s/brand/Cobra/prodID/1987
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Thanks for the link Bill!

I'm all about keeping the car's driveability and stock appearance, so I'd go for that even if it cost more than a race seat. Plus then you only really need it on the driver's seat, and you can leave the passenger seat stock without them not matching up like a single race seat would.

I guess the other option is swapping seats before racing, but I don't want a "transformer" car that I have to take apart between street and track. I would only make an exception to that for tires maybe.

Swapping out seats in these is really easy though.
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Thanks, you made find one that's even more expensive...
http://www.cobraseatsusa.com/products ... s/brand/Cobra/prodID/1987


There's nothing wrong withe their $299 entry seat.
http://www.cobraseatsusa.com/products ... ts/brand/Cobra/prodID/658

Don't feel bad though, the seats I race in are $350 and for that I get a plastic bag full of little styrofoam marbles and a can of resin.
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Thanks for the link Bill!
Swapping out seats in these is really easy though.


Yea, that's always stuck in my head as a decent and inexpensive idea.

If I was swaping seats, I'd get rid of the metal locknuts and use NyLocks.
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Eric, you can get a covered seat for as little as $150 that has the harness holes. Go to www.summitracing.com and search "racing seats".
Note that the covered ones are "sport seats". They don't conform to FIA 8855-1999 spec. You can get a nonreclining seat that meets specs for under $250.

Here's a full race seat for $229, I didn't check the spec.
http://www.seats4cars.com/products/forza.htm

Note, the sport seats will be easier to use for DD. But the race seats really hold your hips in.
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I don't mind paying up to around $500 for each seat. My main concern is still safely using the stock seat belts. I like the side bolsters, but most seem too high to safely use the stock belts. That's why I really like that sparco I posted at the top. I'm pretty limber for being 6'3" and the car is already difficult to get in and out of, so It can't really be that much worse. If it is, I'll just call that my daily exercise. I also have to watch what's going to fit in the vette and fit my big butt.

The forza is also on my list, but curious if it'll fit. I certainly like the price and every corbeau i've sat in has been nice. I've got to take some measurements and find a shop in town that has some nice seat options. Right now I'm trying to just narrow down and confirm my options.
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I like Gary use my car to prototype some C4 seat rails

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Those are pretty sharp. I've got a friend that runs one in his 96 LT4, but it doesn't go back far enough to tell if I really fit or not. It was VERY snug, but my knees where sitting just under my chin so that may have thrown off how it actually fit.
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The seat rails in the pic are fixed.

That gains quite a bit of room, of course sacrificing adjustable, but if you helmet or your legs won't fit, you really don't have an option.
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I figure I'll go with a fixed position anyway. My car is getting retired from long range family road trips so that won't be a problem. So is he selling those seat rails?
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If they're not on the site, I'll bet Gary will make them.
He really supports Vettes.
www.hardbarusa.com
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They sure aren't, but man do they have a ton of positioning options.
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