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I'm considering buying a new pair of garage doors in the Spring and I'm not sure which materials are the best. My dad just had some nice Clopay insualted fiberglass doors installed and they seem nice, but I still see a lot of companies installing insulated steel doors.
I want insulated doors but no sure what is the best choice of materials for the door. I currently have uninsulated steel doors and they are crap. They have dents in them from someone hitting them with a car or something and some rust beginning to show in places too. Any suggestions? |
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Posted on: 2010/2/14 18:50
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| pianoguy | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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Fiberglass sounds intriguing - wonder how it holds up over time (i.e. where the hardware bolts through it, etc.)? We got a new insulated steel door a few years ago, and then the spring broke one day and it fell, closed hard and dented the bejeezus out of it.
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Posted on: 2010/2/14 19:16
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| TommyT-Bone | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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Sounds like fiberglass would be lighter making it easier on the motor for up/down operation. Don't listen to me though. I don't even have a garage.
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Posted on: 2010/2/14 21:10
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| BillH | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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Steel/fiberglass, doesn't matter to the opener. Any weight, light or heavy, is taken up buy the pain in the ass coil spring on the door.
I've had the spring break like Brad. I replaced a couple myself. It's not much fun. Steel dents, Fglass can crack when old as it gets older. Steel is supposed to have a better insulation package but, I'd go by the Rvalues. Fglass is better against corrosion (like where you are). I have steel and I aso insulated them myself with fom panels. One thing I am sure of is the wind sweeps that you mount on th sides of the doors and the bottom seals make a huge difference in how warm the garage stays. |
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Posted on: 2010/2/14 23:13
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| biggrizzly | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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I have been doing a little research today, and although the fiberglass door to me seems great especially here where I live, but I also read that they are not very good for high wind areas, and that some building codes don't allow them in some areas where wind is a known problem. I have no clue about my area codes, but I do know we get very high winds off the Chesapeake Bay often.
Insulated Steel is looking more like what I will need here. I just thought the fiberglass, like Tommy said, would be lighter thus easier on the opener. However you are correct that the spring handles that issue. It looks like a couple grand installed for dual doors, plus I want an extra panel on one side so I can go extra high for a future lift. |
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Posted on: 2010/2/14 23:22
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| Matatk | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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Is that to remove and replace what is there? Seems like a lot? Matthew |
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| biggrizzly | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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As far as I know. My Dad just paid $1,800 turnkey for a single 18ft door and opener. Mine is two side by side 9' doors - two openers and hardware for both doors, plus I want the added section for the lift side. |
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Posted on: 2010/2/15 0:08
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| BillH | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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$1,800 is very reasonable for a special order door with labor & opener.
The extra section for the lift. Are you going to have to reframe? And is the current opening too low to get certain vechiles in? Any height door can be made to go up hign enough for the lift clearance just by adding track length to the vertical door tracks. Opener clearance problems can be eliminated with sidewinder openers or the opener that mounts the motor to the torsional spring bar. It sits right above the door and is like 10in by 10in., Wayne Dalton,IIRC. |
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| biggrizzly | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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No reframe required to the best of my knowledge as I only want to be able to stack corvettes and still open the door. I'm not sure if that will be possible but that is what I'm shooting for. I have ~15' ceilings in my garage and 7ft openings. As you see from the photo, I have a lot of air space above the doors. I want to put the lift on the left side door as the right side of the garage is not as deep because of the steps going into the house. I guess I could do a vertical lift door with no overhead track at all I think.  |
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Posted on: 2010/2/15 4:26
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| bogus | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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there is no sound on earth as awakening as when a garage door lateral spring goes POP.
Sounds like a gun shot!!!! |
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Posted on: 2010/2/15 11:21
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| BillH | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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That's sweet, Don. Most of us aren't blessed with that kind of heigth. The track that the door wheels ride in comes in like 4 ft. lengths so, instead of having 2 pieces vertical, you use 3 and then put the curved piece in which would give you like 14 ft. clearance when the door's open. You can make this clearance any heigth you want. I've been looking at a lot of lifts and ceiling heigths. To get my pickup on for oil changes I want 10ft. min. clearance. |
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Posted on: 2010/2/15 14:54
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| BillH | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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Don, in the upper right corner of the pic, you can see the door track. When this guy had the built he made the installers mount the track as high as possible. It's probably at 14 ft.
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| BillH | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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Another view, the dark line in the upper left is the door track.
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Posted on: 2010/2/15 15:30
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| biggrizzly | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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That's what I want to do, but I was thinking I would need an additional garage door section to accomplish that. Maybe No?
I'm embarrassed to show these messy garage photos, but this will illustrate the current configuration and what I'd like to do. I also have a ton of empty unused air space in the rear of the garage that could make excellent storage in the future. Attach file: garage01.jpg (372.83 KB) garage02.jpg (444.86 KB) |
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Posted on: 2010/2/15 16:08
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| BillH | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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Ha, that's a hell of a lot cleaner than my garage!
No, no new section req'd. Just more vertical track. The nice thing is that you already have the horizonal hangers there, all they'll need to do is shorten them. You'll notice that your vertical track is not completely vertical, at the top, just under the curved section, it is tilted away from the wall an inch or so. This is done to clear the horizontal beam in the door frame. All your installer will need to do is add more track, it's a simple thing to do. |
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Posted on: 2010/2/15 16:18
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| BillH | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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Yea, storage. In the second pic, in front of the nose of my C4 is an office. He had the ceiling of the office built strong enough to walk on and hold a bunch of weight. The thing in the plastic wrap on top of the office is another racecar that weighs oner 1000 lbs. |
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Posted on: 2010/2/15 16:22
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| 1Fast04Vert | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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I used to spec and buy a lot of garage doors for commercial truck repair shops. You might want to 'google' Wayne Dalton Garage doors. They are one of the best for quality.
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| BillH | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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Yea, also Lowes sells tham and has the catalog. www.waynedaltonstore.com Lowes is where I saw their opener, it's the one I want in my next garage. Attach file: 741714109558lg.jpg (0.00 KB) |
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Posted on: 2010/2/15 17:35
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| Matatk | Re: Garage Doors? | ||
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Heck, with all the ceiling height you should just put the one door high for the lift and leave the other the way it is. Then build another room over the standard side and you can work on the cars under and over the lift at the same time
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