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volzfan Pull Key, wait 10 Seconds...............
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Okay, on the "other" forum, this question would be met with more sarcastic remarks than you could count, and yes I've used their "search" function. With that out of the way, I need some help or advice. Here's what I've got:

Occasionally, when I start the '98 A4, I get this message. As most of you probably know, the car will not run.....it will die as soon as you put it in gear due to the fuel shutoff. I DO NOT, nor have I ever got, the "Service Column Lock" message. The column does not lock, and has not since I got the car last June. When I got the car, everyone said to install a Column Lock Bypass............so I did. The car had been through the GM recall process, and by the date on the unit we removed when we installed the Corvettes of Houston bypass, it was the later recall ('04). Per suggestions on CF, I must have a bad, going bad, battery. So, I replace it with a Red Top Optima.........no change. They all said to clean the "pellet" on the key with alcohol......I did it to BOTH keys I have........no change. One guy said to always wait until the "Security" light on the dash went out after inserting the key, but before starting the motor...............seemed to work, maybe, for a while, but this past weekend, even that didn't work.

Now, every time it does this, if I do remove the key and wait, it then will start and run just fine on the second try, at least it has so far.......and that is just a bit unsettling to me, not mention annoying, so I want to fix this thing. I think it must be something with the security system, but I'm at a dead end. Anyone got any ideas?


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Well I'm not a C5 guy, but from what I've been reading it can be what you mentioned, or it can be a bad BCM or bad ignition cylinder. Not 100% sure on the culprit/conflicting stories.

Many guys who experience this say they've gotten the computer reflashed for the fuel cut off to be 200 mph instead of 2. Not sure if this is an option for you.

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Do you have a second key? Have you tried it with that one?
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They all said to clean the "pellet" on the key with alcohol......I did it to BOTH keys I have........no change.
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It's been a while, and I don't recall exactly how I figured it out. But I encountered this in my brother's (formerly my) C5. There is a relay installed as part of the GM recall (p/n and location varies by model year and revision of recall you had done) that is wired into the circuit such that it sends a signal to the BCM "telling" the BCM that the column is unlocked. This relay is installed electrically in place of the actual column lock and if it fails or starts to fail (as was my case) the BCM will think the column is still locked and will cut the power to the fuel pump.
"Pull key, wait 10 seconds" allows the system to reset itself and try to set the relay to the correct latched/unlatched state.
By the way, said vehicle was also a 98 A4. Faulty relay was "installed" (actually tie-wrapped) to the steering column behind the knee bolster. But I've also read that the relay can sometimes be found in the passenger footwell near the fuse panel.

Hope this helps.


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It's been a while, and I don't recall exactly how I figured it out. But I encountered this in my brother's (formerly my) C5. There is a relay installed as part of the GM recall (p/n and location varies by model year and revision of recall you had done) that is wired into the circuit such that it sends a signal to the BCM "telling" the BCM that the column is unlocked. This relay is installed electrically in place of the actual column lock and if it fails or starts to fail (as was my case) the BCM will think the column is still locked and will cut the power to the fuel pump.
"Pull key, wait 10 seconds" allows the system to reset itself and try to set the relay to the correct latched/unlatched state.
By the way, said vehicle was also a 98 A4. Faulty relay was "installed" (actually tie-wrapped) to the steering column behind the knee bolster. But I've also read that the relay can sometimes be found in the passenger footwell near the fuse panel.

Hope this helps.






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Interesting.........and thanks for the info. When I installed the "column lock bypass", there was a relay(?) tie wrapped to the steering column.......but it was not hooked to anything. The plug on it looked like it would hook up where the bypass went, so I removed it......but I still have it. However, it was not hooked up.......to anything. I will look in the footwell tonight and see what is there. Did you ever get the "Service Column Lock" message? That is something I have never gotten.......period, but I understand what you are saying about the BCM getting the correct "message", so that may still be my problem.

Thanks again for the suggestion. At least it's something I have not yet looked at.

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I think that's called the K relay or something like that, part of the GM fix. You have to remove it to install an aftermarket CLB.

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...Did you ever get the "Service Column Lock" message?...
Yes, I did multiple times, along with the fuel pump being disabled. After replacing the relay, haven't had an issue since (about 6 months now).

BTW, this car does not have a CLB installed. So Matatk's comment about removing the relay for CLB installation might mean you have a different issue altogether if you have the CLB.

Good luck!
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Okay, there is no other relay in the footwell.......and after looking at some more on the CF, it seems the extra relay was part of the recall on the Manual trans cars only. And Matt, I think you are right about the "K harness" being what I found tie wrapped to the steering column..........but the puzzling part to me is why was it not hooked up? I have read that the K harness recall fix was prone to failure. Wonder if the previous owner had the same issue I have and disconnected it, and reconnected to the original hookup? That is the way I found it when we installed the CLB. I'm thinking of going back to that setup just to see if there is any change. After all, I had no problems until AFTER I installed the CLB..................

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Well, here's some information from Paul Koerner (I think I spelled his name right) a C4 C5 and C6 Specialist with GM world class certification.

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The truth of service column lock is that even if you have 12.5 volts and you do NOT have the cold cranking amps to support the electrical system, IT WILL NEVER WORK RIGHT.

Testing with a voltmeter means NOTHING, if you do NOT have the CCA to support the electrical system when the starter is engaged.

1997-2003 batteries require a terminal torque of 11 ft lbs.
2004 require 87 in lbs.
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At CorvetteActionCenter's CruiseFest, in June, Paul is going to be one of the seminar presenters and is going to deal with this problem directly in one of his seminars.

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C5 column lock diagnosis and repair, during our c5 seminars.

We will give you the FACTS AND TRUTH about Corvette c5 column lock causes and fixes.

The reasons WHY it happens, the true fixes and how you can keep yourself from having the problem happen to you.

And we will also diagnose any column lock issue on site and fix it!

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I am planning on video taping it. Paul is a great guy and willing to help with any issues.
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I'd be interested in seeing that video.
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Well, I'll see if I am smart enough to shoot the video and then post it somehow.
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I'd be interested in seeing that video.


Well, I'll see if I am smart enough to shoot the video and then post it somehow.


Please do that.........I would love to see it, too. So far I still have not found the problem. I'm gonna try a couple more things this week, and I'll post the results. Right now, it's just annoying....the car always does okay AFTER pulling the key......but I keep wondering when............
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Okay, an update.

Today, with the help of Trae1976, I went in and found the two main "ground" connections (G201 and G202). They are located in the footwells, under the sill trim, near the front door jam. According to a post on the CF, by a former GM Tech, they had discovered the grounds to be an issue while they were performing the "recalls", and started doing this. I took both grounds loose, and used a dremel with a small sanding drum to remove the paint from around the hole where the screw goes. I also cleaned the connections with the dremel. We also ran a new, dedicated wire from the ground point G202 (passenger footwell) directly to the battery negative terminal, through an existing grommet in that same footwell, just above the fuse panel.

Now, it's too early to tell if this has solved the problem..........but, we left here at approx 3:30 this afternoon, and drove at least a couple hundred miles, complete with stops to eat, to gas up, restrooms, etc., and not once(knock on wood) did I get the dreaded message. That is probably the most times I've stopped/started the car without the problem since it started happening. I'll keep posting updates as time goes on, but this may just be a step in the right direction.
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Excellent! You may have found the smoking gun. I truly hope that solves your issues. And if that's the case, it will help many others, too!

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Another update...........this time not so good. Today, it came back. Only once (of course it has always been intermittent), but after a stop, when I started the car, I got the "Pull key........". On to plan "B". I'm going to take the CLB out of the circuit, and hook it back up just as it was when I got the car. The steering does not lock anyway, so perhaps this will create some sort of change.....

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Well, thanks to TeeBee's info, I went searching and found the gentleman he is referring to over on the Corvette Action Center forum. He suggested that I did need to remove the CLB, and hook the system back up as I had found it. I did this yesterday, and have driven maybe 75 miles since, with no issues. There is indeed a change.......I can now hear the actuator cycle when I turn the key on, and again when I turn it off. I am assuming that it is making a switch that tells the computer that the lock pin is engaged or disengaged, and since the CLB disabled that function, it did not always get that signal. I am speculating, of course, but it seems logical to me. Time will tell........I'll keep updating as time goes on.

By the way, thanks TeeBee.......and I still want to see that video! Paul seems to know what he is talking about, and I'm sure there are other things about these cars that I need to learn.
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He suggested that I did need to remove the CLB, and hook the system back up as I had found it. I did this yesterday, and have driven maybe 75 miles since, with no issues. There is indeed a change.......I can now hear the actuator cycle when I turn the key on, and again when I turn it off.


So what happens when you get the dreaded column lock?
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He suggested that I did need to remove the CLB, and hook the system back up as I had found it. I did this yesterday, and have driven maybe 75 miles since, with no issues. There is indeed a change.......I can now hear the actuator cycle when I turn the key on, and again when I turn it off.


So what happens when you get the dreaded column lock?


Well, that worried me, too, Matt. However.........because of the recall that was performed on the car, the column does not lock. It didn't before, it doesn't now. Hopefully my only problem was that the computer didn't THINK that the lock pin was retracted, and now that it cycles again, it will.......only time will tell. By the way I kinda cheated. I didn't remove the CLB.......only unhooked it and rehooked the harness. If I get stuck out somewhere, I can change it back by removing 4 torx screws and re-hooking. Heck it's not hurting anything, so why take it out?
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He suggested that I did need to remove the CLB, and hook the system back up as I had found it. I did this yesterday, and have driven maybe 75 miles since, with no issues. There is indeed a change.......I can now hear the actuator cycle when I turn the key on, and again when I turn it off.


So what happens when you get the dreaded column lock?


What happens normally to c5's before the recall is done is that the column normally locks with the electric motor sliding a pin into a lock plate, kinda like the older cars that slide a pin mechanicaly when you turn the ignition key to lock the steering wheel. Part of the recall involves installing a new plate the that the lock pin does not contact, so the steering wheel does not lock.

These motors get worn ect, especially when you turn the wheel and have some load on the steering wheel, ever have a car you goto turn the key and it's difficult to turn and you grab the steering wheel and move it and the key turns easier. Well in the C5 case there is no link between the key and the lock pin. So you turn the key and the pin had load on it, and the motor has to work hard to release it, which wears the motor, and just like any electric motor sometimes they die just the same and if they are stuck in the locked position and the plate is the original plate the comlumn stays locked.

A couple tricks I learned is one if you have this problem happen... try shaking the steering wheel back and forth real hard and turn the ignition key on at the same time, it may jolt the motor and make it pull the pin back in then you can get it to the shop for repair. also you could pull the plastic trim and tap on it with a small hammer to jolt it.. basically the same as tapping on a starter motor or banging on a fuel tank to jolt or slap/start a fuel pump...

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Since it seems that you have some experience with these, let me ask you a question. Since I have never gotten the "Service Column Lock" message, it seems to me that my problem is that the system "thinks" that lock pin is not completely retracted. Is there a switch on the lock pin actuator that must be made in order for the system to work properly? And, if there is, could it not be either disabled, or permanently "made" so that the CLB would then work all the time? I'm only speculating, basing my guess on all the pages of posts that I've read, but I've never seen where anyone really tells all the parts involved in making the system work.

With the CLB in place, I'm fine 80% of the time, and even when I get the "Pull key..." message, it clears and I can go. I'd just like to eliminate the annoyance.

Thanks in advance!
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Since it seems that you have some experience with these, let me ask you a question. Since I have never gotten the "Service Column Lock" message, it seems to me that my problem is that the system "thinks" that lock pin is not completely retracted. Is there a switch on the lock pin actuator that must be made in order for the system to work properly? And, if there is, could it not be either disabled, or permanently "made" so that the CLB would then work all the time? I'm only speculating, basing my guess on all the pages of posts that I've read, but I've never seen where anyone really tells all the parts involved in making the system work.

With the CLB in place, I'm fine 80% of the time, and even when I get the "Pull key..." message, it clears and I can go. I'd just like to eliminate the annoyance.

Thanks in advance!


Yes there is a switch inside the lock pin motor, the basically applies ground when it's closed. basically it's and on/off switch that tells the body control module if the pin is in or out. That's pretty much it. Honestly I'm not 100% sure what the bypass does.. if it is just a resistor to make the BCM think it's connected to the lock so that it doesn't think someone is trying to steal the car ect. So that the lock pin does not move, and the car will still start thus defeating the system?

Though I'm not sure how the BCM reacts to not ever seeing the lock pin closed.

My guess is when the pin is LOCKED the switch is grounded, so if the pin is UNLOCKED and the connector is disconnected from the motor assembly with a resistor in place to fool the BCM, of the motor being connected or not, it would think the column is always in the UNLOCKED postion...

I don't really know if this will throw a code ect...
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You pretty much confirmed what I thought. When the CLB is "hooked up", you do not hear the actuator.......so obviously it is "fooling" the system into thinking that it has done it's job. I am assuming, however, (and I stress ASSUME) that in my case, the switch in the actuator either does not make during the initial install, thus giving me intermittent "Pull key......" messages, or it does not stay in that position (maybe vibrates enough for the switch to open?). So now, that I have hooked back up the original system, the actuator cycles and DOES make the switch, so (so far anyway) I have not gotten that code. As far as throwing a trouble code......it has not done that, even before my last change.

The guy, Paul, that TeeBee refers to says that the recall fixed the problem (by replacing the lockplate), and that as long as I have a strong battery, I will have no more problems. I suppose if the actuator motor failed, then that would have to be addressed, but since it really only moves in and out now, without actually engaging anything, it should last a while, I would think.

It just seems to me, that with all the talented and smart folks out there, someone would have come up with a sure-fire, one time fix for this.

Thanks for the discussion. I will keep posting updates as time goes on, and maybe this can someday be resolved for every C5 owner out there.

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Well, I did get the video....I haven't had time to get it into Photobucket yet....the camera is still in the rear well and I am not home yet to unload. As soon as I get it up somewhere, I'll let you know.

BTW, it was very informative. Paul documents every Corvette that he works on and that way has come up with some amazing statistics. But (hopefully), I'll let the video speak for him.

I'd highly recommend attending one (or more) of Paul's seminars. If I understood correctly, he'll be at FunFest in September.
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I had to split the video up into two sections. Uploaded to Vettetube.com. Search for C5 Column lock.

Watch the whole thing, it all leads to Column lock discussion.

Please be kind, it is my first attempt at doing video.
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Thanks so much for posting that. I just watched it all, and learned several things that I know will come in handy in the future. It is amazing how some of the "myths" about such issues can grow to be gospel, and I wonder how many folks, like myself, have installed a CLB just because "everyone says I need it", only to find out later that it may do more harm than good. What Paul says about the potential for damage to the BCM resulting from the voltage difference from a CLB makes me really glad I unhooked mine........and by the way, since doing that, I have had no more issues......period, and I think it's been long enough now that it would have shown up. Thanks again.......I recommend anyone with a C5 watch these videos..........it's obvious this guy really knows the system!

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Do you have a link? I searched on their there are only 2 videos that look like they could be it.. but they say column lock quick test..
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um er aw um ok well mabee i should read lil mo steada babblin right off...mabee i wait on this column lock gizmo id asked bout..also wanna say thank you mucho grande teebee fer video..
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I had about forgot about posting this way back then.  Just as a followup.......still no issues since.  I'd say it's a given that my problem was solved. thumbup

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