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JDSWHITE93 Re: Don't open this if you get your feelings hurt - Why does everyone say its OK to be gay?[PR&C]
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There are lots of assholes in this world, lots of people who I would personally like to kick square in the fucking ass. Their sexual preference however is never a motivating factor. I personally find over the top gay men comical, not threatening to myself or my way of life. Thta's my .02 anyways John
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No, not just me, I think the majority of our society do feel that homosexuality is not the norm nor should it be.


Exactly! And some of us are more willing to raise our voices than others.

As my daughter recently reminded me, some things are just not that important.

Andy...I still love ya man!


It's not about making it the "norm" it's about accepting a genetic predisposition and not treating it as a sin or a crime.

Oh, and stop that pillow talk.
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No, not just me, I think the majority of our society do feel that homosexuality is not the norm nor should it be.


Care to back that up with fact, or just a gut feeling?



CNN survey 2/10:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/ ... ith-gays-in-the-military/

69% OK with gays in the military

CNN Survey 10/10:

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10 ... s-most-americans-believe/

Two out of three Americans believe gay people commit suicide at least partly because of messages coming out of churches and other places of worship

Pew Research Study 10/09:


http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1375/gay-marriage-civil-unions-opinion

A clear majority of Americans (57%) favor allowing gay and lesbian couples to enter into legal agreements with each other that would give them many of the same rights as married couples, a status commonly known as civil unions.


Pew Research Study 5/11:


http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1994/poll ... ty-gay-parenting-marriage

While the public is divided over same-sex marriage, a majority of Americans (58%) say that homosexuality should be accepted, rather than discouraged, by society.

Washington Post / Gallup Poll 5/11:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/p ... /03/04/AFYTPr9G_blog.html

According to Gallup, 53 percent of Americans surveyed in the poll released Friday support legal recognition of same-sex married couples.
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There are lots of assholes in this world, lots of people who I would personally like to kick square in the fucking ass. Their sexual preference however is never a motivating factor.


Completely! I don't generally like people...at all. People in groups with a group mentality are even worse. I take humans on a one-by-one, case-by-case basis. I might like you individually no matter what your "class" characteristics are...
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Andy...I still love ya man!



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Oh, and stop that pillow talk.


That's kinda hot. Too bad it's gay.
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Don't look now, but NY has passed a law permitting gay marriage.
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Yes, it seems the times they are a changing.

I found it interesting that opposition is correlated with religious attendence, older age, republican party and live in the south or the midwest. (all of which apply to me)

Support correlates with lack of religious affliliation, young age, democratic party and live in the northeast and on the west coast. (which pretty much covers you guys)

Time marches on, and it all comes down to politics. It would be interesting to see what things will look like 50 or 100 years down the road. You young guys might see it. Me, I will be out in the shop working on things I can understand and make me smile.......



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_o ... iage_in_the_United_States
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Holy Shit!
Powerful stuff to be my first read of a mawnin....
There are points you all make that I agree on.
The Bible is God's word and meant to be taken as law, above state, city or man's ideals for what law should be. He puts things very plain in there, no wiggle room. Every single thing you can imagine, you can find your answer there... including the fact that what he says goes NOT what society says. And, that there are temptations and tests of faith which all give our spirituality a chance to grow. It also says that he gave us ALL the right to make our own decisions right or wrong, which in turn, do affect others - including our children and how they come up in the world.
Now - do two men freak me out? Hell yes. Gross. Ewww....... And I've had gay friends and thought the world of them. Is is a personal decision or genetics? Depends on the case. There are dna fuck-ups that happen and create a whole mess of things including 'man being born in woman's body' crap and so forth. No different than other genetical birth defects such as missing fingers. That's simply science - it happens. There are also those who live that lifestyle by 'choice'. Whatever makes them happy it's not my business to interfere, other than what God says is pray for them, invite them to church, etc.
Now, do two women freak me out? No. Why? Hell if I know. That's probably one of those society things. I'm a very open minded person for the most part and I have had my share of fun going to strip clubs with my guy and gal friends. Lap dances? Sure and I'll leave it at that but I"m in no way Bi-Sexual gay or anything else. I had my own Playboy subscription, finally let that lapse a year ago. I enjoy reading it and yes the women are beautiful. Too bad there aren't as many beautiful men to pictorialize and oogle over.
As far as racial issues? I was brought up to be racial. I was taught that black people are 'niggers' the same as a red apple is a red apple. I just thought that's what they were. A little time in school and church taught me that's not the case. All people are people. My best friend and 'sister' is a black lady. Love her to pieces. We each were brought up different. I grew up watching Archie Bunker and you know what a cussing racist he was. I thought that was normal. Now do we still tell racial jokes? Sure, she has some 'whitey' jokes of her own. We laugh at it all.
What we must do as christian adults or otherwise moral people is know right from wrong, ask for the Lord's help in our guidance of our children, do our best and hope like hell it works and they, themselves become good moral people with great contributions to society. IF it don't... we'll as a parent it's not your fault. You child will grow up to be an adult with a fully functioning adult mind capable of making his/her own decisions as God intended and the cycle starts over. You do the best you can. And, as freedom of choice given to us by God - we have the right to change the channel but not the right to "FORCE" our views upon another, but merely 'suggest, witness, invite to worship, etc."
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Thanks Letty! Very nice!
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Change the channel.

I may be the radicals here and find religion one of the evilest forms of groupings. Religion brings absolutely no good that should not be brought in the first place. Why does it need to be in the name of a god/prophet/figment?

Religion is still around.

You can avoid religion much like a growing number of Americans are (rising number of atheists).

Guess what? You can avoid being GAY. I know with all the gays in media it may be hard for you to come forth with your true feelings but if you want to stay hetero do it. I am hetero and as long as one of my gay friends doesnt try to stick me or kiss me we are chill.

Children should be away from TV as much as possible to begin with. Push them outside or make them read a book. Solve your problem and help with the growing number of obese lazy slobs.

All in all it does NOT affect you in any way besides your inability to turn the other cheek if you do not want to see it. Get over it.
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It's not about making it the "norm" it's about accepting a genetic predisposition and not treating it as a sin or a crime.


As the majority of people accept others for their differences, I'm sick and tired of having to be re-reminded of those differences and "taught" that it's OK.

So I'm inclined to raise my voice and tell those to just SHUT-UP!
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Atta girl Letty, that is exactly right.
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The Bible is God's word and meant to be taken as law



Hmmm...which bible? Which God?

The Quran? Torrah? Christian Bible?

I guess laws can be different, eh?
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Hmmm...which bible? Which God?

The Quran? Torrah? Christian Bible?

I guess laws can be different, eh?



Does it matter ? You can twist any religion anyway you like to dehumanize large groups of people. Freedom of religion should include freedom from religion. There are many that have a very difficult time understanding that simple concept.
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The Bible is God's word and meant to be taken as law



Hmmm...which bible? Which God?

The Quran? Torrah? Christian Bible?

I guess laws can be different, eh?



Does it matter ? You can twist any religion anyway you like to dehumanize large groups of people. Freedom of religion should include freedom from religion. There are many that have a very difficult time understanding that simple concept.


That's my point. Letty wrote the bible is law....depends on whose version of the "bible".
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Then I guess a good stoning is in order.
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It's not about making it the "norm" it's about accepting a genetic predisposition and not treating it as a sin or a crime.


As the majority of people accept others for their differences, I'm sick and tired of having to be re-reminded of those differences and "taught" that it's OK.

So I'm inclined to raise my voice and tell those to just SHUT-UP!


Yea, but for the other moronic assholes who don't want to remember, go out and beat someone up because they are "different."

I have a major problem with that, and if a few PSA's are required to stop it, then so be it.

Personally, I am more sick and fucking tired of seeing ads for Viagra, Cialis, Colonflow, and any number of female hygienics. Do I really need to learn about a limp dick and smelly crotch?

The last time I checked, neither of those problems will result in someone getting killed.

However, it wasn't that long ago, that a man was beaten, dragged by a pick-up truck and then tied to a fence and left to die - all because he was gay.

Sorry, bud. These PSA's will have to continue - just like to occasional reminders about anti-racism - until the REAL majority have decided its ok to not hate.

If I had a limp dick, I would hate that. But if any man on the street did, I wouldn't know and don't care.

As for religion - "Opium of the people." Karl Marx. And he is so damned right. When he wrote that, it was in regards to how the kings and queens of Europe would control the genpop via the fear of God.

And we wonder why religion, in general, is so fucked up. People killing people over the same God. The irony is almost delicious, if it wasn't for the fact that millions die because of it.

Western nations are going through a rough period of social change. I almost expect it to lead to class war if we are not careful. The gap between sides is only growing, it's not narrowing.

Oh, yea, you called me a "wishy-washy" moderate, who "flip-flops" on issues.

I do NOT flip-flop on specific issues. What I do is pick my fights and my issues.

For example, I am:

... Pro-2nd amendment
... Pro-Choice
... Pro-death penalty
... Anti-handouts
... Pro-small government
... Anti-flat tax
... Pro-gay marriage
... Pro-true equal rights
... Pro-tort reform
... Pro-fiscal responsibility

As you know, Steve, I don't vary from those tenants, but I am too socially liberal to be a Republican, and too fiscally conservative to be a Democrat. All that leaves is Libertarian. And LaRouche creeped me out.

On religion? It's all about fear. Fear of Gods wrath; fear of hell; fear of NOT FITTING IN. Each religion thinks it's the only way to heaven... Sorry, bud, that ain't playing.

Man has perverted religion for his own greedy gains. It is that simple. And has been doing it for centuries.

Oh, and don't get me started on Scientology. Those ppl are WEIRD.

Here is a generalization that you all can chew on:

The left is trying to grow the mind, open thought and eliminate intellectual and irrational emotional barriers so we as a nation and a world can move forward with a more open dialog.

The right is more concerned with preserving some idyllic image of the past, by stifling learning and emotional growth, all in the name of God and all the fire and brimstone he can unleash.

What I find fascinating, is that 300+ years ago, the Imans who ruled early Muslim made a conscious decision to disconnect their people from "decedent western culture." Look how emotionally backwards many of those nations are today. Many are societies of lemmings, following the word of a dictator, whilst totally subjugating themselves.

We must be careful as to not go too far one way or the other. To far to the "intellectual" nirvana, the closer we get to communism and socialism. Too far to the perception of traditional values and we go stagnate. No more advancement because of a paralyzing fear to move.

Ok, I am done.
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wow its starting to sound lke a deate on the senate floor in here, the way i look at it is live your life te way you want. i HAVE MY OWN VIEWS BUT I KEEP THEM TO MYSELF. THE THING IS WHEN WE ALL MEET OUR MAKER LETS HOPE YOU LIVED A GOOD CLEAN LIFE. i like people. im not one to condemn any one. let people do what they want as long as it doesnt cause trouble. am i making any sense here.
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Personally, I am more sick and fucking tired of seeing ads for Viagra, Cialis, Colonflow, and any number of herpes medications.
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You can throw in the weight loss and anti smoking PSAs.
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There are so many drugs out there. They advertise this prescription stuff, and I swear, nine times out of ten, the side-effects are fifty times worse than what the thing cures. It's like, "Try new Fluorofluor. For itchy, watery eyes, it's Fluorofluor. Side effects may include: nausea, vomiting, water weight gain, lower back pain, receding hairline, eczema, seporiasoriasis, itching, chafing clothing, liver spots, blood clots, ringworm, excessive body odor, uneven tire wear, pyorrhea, gonorrhea, diarrhea, halitosis, scoliosis, loss of bladder control, hammertoe, the shanks, low sperm count, warped floors, cluttered drawers, hunchback, heart attack, low resale value on your home... feline leukemia, athlete's foot, head lice, clubfoot, MS, MD, VD, fleas, anxiety, sleeplessness, drowsiness, poor gas mileage, tooth decay, parvo, warts, unibrow, lazy eye, fruit flies, chest pains, clogged drains, hemorrhoids, dry heaving and sexual dysfunction." I'm watching it, going, "You know what? I'll just have itchy, watery eyes..."
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Drug companies should just label clearly, "This drug will Fuck You Up", but since your already Fucked Up, Enjoy! in six months there will be some slime ball attorney with a class action suite on TV telling you if you are totally fucked up it because you used our drug.
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Anal seepagae, isn't that when you hit the wall at 180. Ever had anal seepage in a wet suit?
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There are so many drugs out there. They advertise this prescription stuff, and I swear, nine times out of ten, the side-effects are fifty times worse than what the thing cures. It's like, "Try new Fluorofluor. For itchy, watery eyes, it's Fluorofluor. Side effects may include: nausea, vomiting, water weight gain, lower back pain, receding hairline, eczema, seporiasoriasis, itching, chafing clothing, liver spots, blood clots, ringworm, excessive body odor, uneven tire wear, pyorrhea, gonorrhea, diarrhea, halitosis, scoliosis, loss of bladder control, hammertoe, the shanks, low sperm count, warped floors, cluttered drawers, hunchback, heart attack, low resale value on your home... feline leukemia, athlete's foot, head lice, clubfoot, MS, MD, VD, fleas, anxiety, sleeplessness, drowsiness, poor gas mileage, tooth decay, parvo, warts, unibrow, lazy eye, fruit flies, chest pains, clogged drains, hemorrhoids, dry heaving and sexual dysfunction." I'm watching it, going, "You know what? I'll just have itchy, watery eyes..."


There is one out there for depression, I think, that warns against gambling urges, odd sexual desires and suicidal tendencies.
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Lets not forget the 'maxi pads with wings'....
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IN MY MAILBOX!!!!
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It's not about making it the "norm" it's about accepting a genetic predisposition and not treating it as a sin or a crime.


As the majority of people accept others for their differences, I'm sick and tired of having to be re-reminded of those differences and "taught" that it's OK.

So I'm inclined to raise my voice and tell those to just SHUT-UP!


However, it wasn't that long ago, that a man was beaten, dragged by a pick-up truck and then tied to a fence and left to die - all because he was gay.

As for religion - "Opium of the people." Karl Marx. And he is so damned right. When he wrote that, it was in regards to how the kings and queens of Europe would control the genpop via the fear of God.

And we wonder why religion, in general, is so fucked up. People killing people over the same God. The irony is almost delicious, if it wasn't for the fact that millions die because of it.

On religion? It's all about fear. Fear of Gods wrath; fear of hell; fear of NOT FITTING IN. Each religion thinks it's the only way to heaven... Sorry, bud, that ain't playing.

Man has perverted religion for his own greedy gains. It is that simple. And has been doing it for centuries.

Here is a generalization that you all can chew on:

The left is trying to grow the mind, open thought and eliminate intellectual and irrational emotional barriers so we as a nation and a world can move forward with a more open dialog.

The right is more concerned with preserving some idyllic image of the past, by stifling learning and emotional growth, all in the name of God and all the fire and brimstone he can unleash.


Where to begin with this rant.....first the poor kid up in Wyoming was brutally murdered because he was gay but that same thing happens everyday because of a hundred different reasons. None of it is right for any reason but it keeps on happening.

I can't agree on anything Karl Marx said, but he probably would have been a democrate...

I have to agree with you on your overall view or organized religion, be it Christianity or Muslim or whatever. One of the worlds biggest leaders in a rebellion aginst organised religiosity was Jesus Christ himself. He was sent to spread God's truth against the rulers and religious leaders of his time. His answer was to follow me and what I teach and in doing so He will have a place for us when the time comes. He attacked the money changers and evil people in the temple because of what they were doing to what was pure. He was a bad ass when it came to discrediting the teachers who were misleading the people.

That is what convinced me to follow him. I am not very religious but I am a Jesus guy and try to live my life to please him and in doing so hope to help others that need help out of the hell holes they are in to lead a better life. It is not about religion, you are right about that, man has used it to his political advantage for ever. Man in general is evil. What do you expect.

Martin Luther nailed a list on the wall of the church back in his day that called the religious corruption what it was. It started a whole new look and changed the church ever since.

So it's about a relationship with God through his son Jesus that is the true religion and you are free to enter in or not, your choice. One thing that we all have to decide in this life is who was Jesus. Your choice but take time to study what He says for yourself before you decide because we are all going to find out one way or another......

Your last two statements about the left and the right are party line bullshit from beginning to end. I don't agree and that's cool because sometimes we have to agree to disagree.....
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There are so many drugs out there. They advertise this prescription stuff, and I swear, nine times out of ten, the side-effects are fifty times worse than what the thing cures. It's like, "Try new Fluorofluor. For itchy, watery eyes, it's Fluorofluor. Side effects may include: nausea, vomiting, water weight gain, lower back pain, receding hairline, eczema, seporiasoriasis, itching, chafing clothing, liver spots, blood clots, ringworm, excessive body odor, uneven tire wear, pyorrhea, gonorrhea, diarrhea, halitosis, scoliosis, loss of bladder control, hammertoe, the shanks, low sperm count, warped floors, cluttered drawers, hunchback, heart attack, low resale value on your home... feline leukemia, athlete's foot, head lice, clubfoot, MS, MD, VD, fleas, anxiety, sleeplessness, drowsiness, poor gas mileage, tooth decay, parvo, warts, unibrow, lazy eye, fruit flies, chest pains, clogged drains, hemorrhoids, dry heaving and sexual dysfunction." I'm watching it, going, "You know what? I'll just have itchy, watery eyes..."


There is one out there for depression, I think, that warns against gambling urges, odd sexual desires and suicidal tendencies.


Hear that, Tommy?
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Marcus, I guess it's our mid-western upbringing, but I agree with you 100%.
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There is one out there for depression, I think, that warns against gambling urges, odd sexual desires and suicidal tendencies.


Hear that, Tommy?


I have those side effects and I'm not even taking an antidepressent.

I believe in religions and the manufacture of belief systems so I think I have everything pretty well covered. Should I die I know I'm saved because I read that somewhere somebody died for my sins. I sure am pretty happy about that.
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+1.. 100%...Well said..
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I watched a little of the big celebration in New York about the gay marriage issue.(very little) That I find disturbing. To me though the only thing I'm really disturbed about is the word marriage. Pick another term . You can't be and never will be married to a member of the same sex. Another thing. Being gay has little to do with the gayness the flamers were putting on the air. Why can't they pick the plain old normal acting homo to chat with. Nnnooooo. They have to talk to the dancing queens and valley girls. OK! You're gay, you're gay. Now shut the fuck up and move on with your life. We could call for a million hetros march on Washington but nobody wants to go to Washington for number one and for two nobody wants to go with their spouse or S/O. They'd rather go hang out with their guy and girlfriends.
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Hear that, Tommy?


I have those side effects and I'm not even taking an antidepressent.


Me 2......but I like them.
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I watched a little of the big celebration in New York about the gay marriage issue.(very little) That I find disturbing. To me though the only thing I'm really disturbed about is the word marriage. Pick another term . You can't be and never will be married to a member of the same sex. Another thing. Being gay has little to do with the gayness the flamers were putting on the air. Why can't they pick the plain old normal acting homo to chat with. Nnnooooo. They have to talk to the dancing queens and valley girls. OK! You're gay, you're gay. Now shut the fuck up and move on with your life. We could call for a million hetros march on Washington but nobody wants to go to Washington for number one and for two nobody wants to go with their spouse or S/O. They'd rather go hang out with their guy and girlfriends.


Very well said, T.
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My point exactly.

The media likes to make hay with a "flamer in your face".
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Kinda like here when there's a tornado and they inevitable pick the stupid ass in the trailer park with a pink tube top, curlers and a husband with no teeth who talk about how they saw Elvis....
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I just read this thread and have come to the conclusion that I would just like to be left alone. I don't want the homosexual agenda in my face all the time. Live and let live.

Unfortunately, even the US Government, who is my employer, has their Gay Pride agenda put on by the EEO office. They have meetings, food, group hugs, etc. They haven't made us go yet as a mandatory event, but we sure have sexual harrassment mandatory classes. My take is that if you haven't learned at home how to be gracious you aren't going to learn it in one hour every year!

On that religious discussion, has anyone ever noticed that just like the country song goes, "everyone wants to go to heaven, but no one wants to go right now?" Sure would clean out some of the riff raff!
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I have had the sexual harrassment classes... they are a joke... but the idea is simple, if we share this pointless drivel with you, we are no longer liable for you acting like an ass.

Essentially, you have been warned.

I would be surprised if any gay related functions were to become manditory. I would be shocked.

I was reading the title... "Why does everyone say it is OK to be gay?" To me, this automatically implies that gay is wrong in some way. It is just different.

Unlike other genetic differences, it isn't deadly. Someone being gay doesn't mean they are ax murderers. But there are genes that indicate predisposition to being socio- and psychopaths. Don't forget sexual sadists.

I grew up in Delaware. It is coastal, Mid-Atlantic, but it is rural... and can be socially conservative. But gays were never really picked on in DE, same with racial issues. By the time I grew into school age (1971), schools were integrated. Is started at a private school, but switched over to public in 3rd grade, had friends who were black and Hispanic. My family never taught that being different was bad, so I accepted all. Short/tall, skinny/fat, young/old, gay/straight.

One of my wife's friends is gay. He is a 2nd grade teacher at the local district and has been for eons. He is one of the kindest, gentlest, compassionate, most patient people I have ever met. If would have loved to have had him as a teacher, and if I had a child that age, I would want him or her in his class in an instant.

When I was in HS, the head of the English Dept was gay. I knew him in school and out of school as a friend. He was always so very nice to me and everyone I know always got along well with him. So much so, when I graduated HS, in my senior picture, Gene loaned me a tie! That was Oct, so by May, I actually got a real suit for all the parties and such. I will always remember Gene for his kindness and caring. He didn't have to bring an extra tie that day - just for me.

So perhaps my world was more tolerant to start with. My exposures more open and less judgmental. All I know is this: I don't hate based on personal things - gender, race, religion, sexual bias.

I don't really hate much, I actually have more problems with stupid people than anything else. I hate hate. I despise the current political climate and all of the hate and venom being spewed about. It takes away from the discussion of issues and turns it into a shouting match.

I mean, I can call the next guy an ignorant mother fucker, but what have I succeeded at doing?

When I discuss politics, I keep my personal feelings of the candidate out of the equation, unless character is the key.

For example, the former Governor of Illinois, Rod Blagojevich, IS a scumbag crook. But that is also empirical data. Calling Obama a scumbag crook might be true, but since there isn't any findings in a court of law, then the name cannot be used.

I also hate politically motivated spam email. Most of the time, they are pandering to some lowest common denominator of fear and patriotism to get a lie across. One shows a soldier that was injured in Iraq with some bullshit text on how his pay was going to be cut by that unamerican bastard Obama. That kids picture has been perverted because of some BI-PARTISAN Senate subcommittee went digging into the budget to see where they could save some $$ and found that stateside US servicemen could survive without a pay raise. At the same time, this data was strictly research and wasn't even applied to the budget!!! Even closed door discussions become fodder for more lies!

So I will warn you all now, if I get a piece of bullshit email like that from ANYONE, I will light you up with the validation that it's bullshit. Be it Snopes or any other urban legend type site or whatever research it takes to validate it's a lie.
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Pixar owns the Woody character. It's their right to allow google to gay it up in a commercial. They didn't steal it like a Christian with a window sticker of Calvin praying.

I have no problem with gay people, I have a problem with people that don't mind their own business... including straight people who think they need to dictate the business of others.

The government should not recognize gay marriage, nor should they recognize traditional marriage. It's none of their business.

How is it that everyone wants to legalize gay marriage but not polygamy?
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How is it that everyone wants to legalize gay marriage but not polygamy?


That'll be next year CC, once the gay marriage thing is exhausted.


Paedophilia will become the current issue by 2017, I imagine.


Of course, ALL of it depends on revenue projections of news-makers (in order to keep them in the purely altruistic business of informing all of us of the truth, of course).

Looked for my own soap box and realized I misplaced it a few years ago (when I was younger and much more idealistic)...so I find myself with no dog in the game now.

I've satisfied myself with just sitting back and watching the magic unfold.

In short....we're all just totally fucked.
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Not that I am interested but what about those that enjoy a little pleasure with a consenting animal?
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I don't mind homosexuality at all. I think there are way too many people having babies that shouldn't be having babies, in essence overpopulating the Earth in a time where medicine is trying to make people live longer and healthier.

The more dudes that are humping dudes the less unplanned pregnancies there are...not to mention a lot more available girls for guys who like girls.

For every gay couple, the ratio gets better for heterosexual men.

The only lesbians I don't get along with are the ones that hate men simply because we have dicks. Otherwise I like them too...we have a lot in common. Cars, sports, and girls.

I'm not religious at all, so no one has told me gay couples are in the wrong. So far as I know, the bible is the only place it's 'written' that being gay is wrong. As far as I'm concerned, being gay is a choice, and last I checked freedom of choice is built into us.

As far as it being okay? I guess that depends on who you ask. If you ask me? Go for it.
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The more dudes that are humping dudes the less unplanned pregnancies there are...not to mention a lot more available girls for guys who like girls.



Well that's what it was designed for... procreating. Penis... meet vagina. Nothing else. It is simple design by the maker and was not intended for other purpose or penetrations other than the original blue print. Oh.. I almost forgot... sodomy is ok!
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I don't mind homosexuality at all. I think there are way too many people having babies that shouldn't be having babies, in essence overpopulating the Earth in a time where medicine is trying to make people live longer and healthier.

The more dudes that are humping dudes the less unplanned pregnancies there are...not to mention a lot more available girls for guys who like girls.



Well that's what it was designed for... procreating. Penis... meet vagina. Nothing else. It is simple design by the maker and was not intended for other purpose or penetrations other than the original blue print. Oh.. I almost forgot... sodomy is ok!


Don, interesting pinpoint but it raises alternative questions. If the design is solely for procreation, then I'll assume married couples don't/shouldn't have sex when not trying to procreate...because then it would be for pleasure.

What about married couples engaging in oral sex...his and hers...because no procreation comes of that and it's purely for pleasure. This is also the most common form of sex...oral, for for gay couples, especially women. If procreation is not a factor in oral sex, then marriage nor gender even come into play.

If the design, for procreation, is the argument then married couples should not have sex for the purposes of pleasure and should not participate in oral sex, because it cannot enable procreation, and is meant for pleasure.
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I don't mind homosexuality at all. I think there are way too many people having babies that shouldn't be having babies, in essence overpopulating the Earth in a time where medicine is trying to make people live longer and healthier.

The more dudes that are humping dudes the less unplanned pregnancies there are...not to mention a lot more available girls for guys who like girls.



Well that's what it was designed for... procreating. Penis... meet vagina. Nothing else. It is simple design by the maker and was not intended for other purpose or penetrations other than the original blue print. Oh.. I almost forgot... sodomy is ok!


Don, interesting pinpoint but it raises alternative questions. If the design is solely for procreation, then I'll assume married couples don't/shouldn't have sex when not trying to procreate...because then it would be for pleasure.

What about married couples engaging in oral sex...his and hers...because no procreation comes of that and it's purely for pleasure. This is also the most common form of sex...oral, for for gay couples, especially women. If procreation is not a factor in oral sex, then marriage nor gender even come into play.

If the design, for procreation, is the argument then married couples should not have sex for the purposes of pleasure and should not participate in oral sex, because it cannot enable procreation, and is meant for pleasure.


I said it was designed for procreation. That is true, correct? How people use their God given parts is obviously up for debate. I didn't say that sex should not be pleasurable for married couples and I didn't say that they should or should not engage in oral sex. I was simply stating that a penis was not intended in the original design to be inserted into an anus!
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