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biggrizzly Most effective / efficient way to heat the small garage
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Where I'm currently living and working on my car, the garage is a small one car garage. It is not insulated on the outside wall and has a cheesy garage door. Needless to say it is cold as sheet out there. I have a kerosene heater but it stinks to high heaven. I was wondering if there is any better alternatives to heating the garage while I'm out there that wont burn down the house and won't cost the electric bill $300 extra this month.
Posted on: 2008/1/3 22:33
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A nice little wood burning pot-bellied stove? An old friend of mine's dad had a wood shop out in their garage. I would say the garage was built late in the nineteenth century. Almost big enough for a large car... But a band saw, lathe and other goodies fit nicely.

A stove a little bigger than a beer keg kept that place toasty!
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That would be cool, but this is a little garage. Barely enogh room for me and the car and my tool boxes. Also this is temporary for two more months. This is a rental house so I can't vent the stove.

However, I'd love a wood stove in the garage. That would be awesome!
Posted on: 2008/1/3 22:45
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Hmmm...

That's a tough scenario.

Are you looking to keep the car warm, or just make it tolerable for you to work in there?

I think an electric heater is probably the safest and least invasive thing, but yeah, it will cost to run it. But if you can't vent the stove, and kerosene stinks I'm gonna say electric.

We used to have this little ceramic heater. It was about 8 inches square. You could heat a bedroom with that sucker.

I also have a little propane camping heater. It looks almost like an audio speaker, but the cone part is flat on the wide end. You just fasten a small bottle of propane to it, and light the front of it. It doesn't smell too bad, but you would probably want a little ventilation.

We had a major snowstorm a couple years back, and our power went out. We held out for about six hours, then started to freeze. So we bought the propane camping heater as a last resort. We used it right in our damn living room for a couple hours. We just opened a window a crack.

Worst case scenario is that you are cold for a couple months, I guess. Best of luck though.
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I don't know of too many options that will fit your circumstances, Don. The electric is the most viable option, but those CAN run the bill up. A fiend of mine has a little electric heater that he says works great and he said, it didn't really affect his bill (actually his wife told me it didn't make a significant difference in their bill). I would guess you have to decide if you can deal with the cold for a couple of months or handle some higher electric bills for a little bit.
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Well I have been sick with a upper respiratory infection going on a week now. I had planed on working on the car while I was off but that went to hell. I have gone out to the garage twice today and it is frigid in there. I might have to take a ride over to Lowe's and see what kind of options we have availabe these days. I know that technology keeps improving. I might be able to find a nice little heater that won't kill the electric meter.

Thanks all
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The best thing I ever bought was a torpedo Proane Heater. Not sure onthe BTU, but it heats fast. I use my outdorr grill tank on it. PLus around here, Home Depot has a 24 hour tank exchange. $16.80 right now for a full tank. Can't beat it. Doesn't take long at all to heat..especially in your small garage.
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Until you insulate the outside wall (along with a nice insulated garage door), all the heat you put in there is just going to leak right out.

Of course, you can add a lot of heat and it will be warm. But in order to do that your going to be spending a lot of money (Propane, Electric, etc.) None of it is free.

A wood stove is probably the cheapest (if you can cut your own wood). If you have to buy wood, then it's not so cheap either.

You need to stop the cold air from coming in, and what heated air you add from whatever source you choose from leaking out.

Also, keep in mind it's a very bad idea to heat a well sealed space with kerosene or propane. Carbon Monoxide is deadly.
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I saw an electric infra-red heater at Home Depot . But I have to agree that heating it is going to be hard to do. Your best bet may be one of the torpedo heaters like Brut suggested
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You all are right on. It is even hard to figure out a good place to actually sit the damn thing so its not in the way and don't burn the paint off my fenders or catch the garage on fire!! Winter Sucks!!
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The best thing I ever bought was a torpedo Proane Heater. Not sure onthe BTU, but it heats fast. I use my outdorr grill tank on it. PLus around here, Home Depot has a 24 hour tank exchange. $16.80 right now for a full tank. Can't beat it. Doesn't take long at all to heat..especially in your small garage.


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I purchased a Reddy forced air propane heater (see http://www.masterdist.net/reddyheater ... cedair/propane/rlp30.html) for about $100 from Home Depot. It's 30,000 BTUs per hour and does a very nice job of heating up my garage, which has an uninsulated 16' steel door to let in the cold.
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Thanks for the link. I have seen these at Costco and other discount places recently. I never paid much attention. Actually the bottle top variety might work just fine for the closed area I have to work in.

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Here's what I think I'll get. Not bad for $100

Lowes - Reddy Heater
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I have a 40K BTU propane torpedo as well. I also have a smaller camping heater that runs on the 1 lb propane cylinders.

I heat things up nice and cozy with the torpedo, then switch over to the smaller one and put it near where I"m working. Keeps the local area warm for a couple more hours without burning through a whole 20 lb tank of propane.

If I'm not done I'll crank up the big heater for another 10 minutes or so...

I think you get the idea. Works great, is cheap, and doesn't cost much at all. I worked on the car all weekend (although it wasn't this cold) and used about 1/2 a tank.
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whatever happened to kerosene heaters?

A friend of mine would fire his up and the garage was an oven within an hour. Heat leak my ass.

The modern ones have catalysts that burn off the bad things and they barely smell. If you are worried about smell, turn it off, and walk it out side immediately.
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whatever happened to kerosene heaters?

A friend of mine would fire his up and the garage was an oven within an hour. Heat leak my ass.

The modern ones have catalysts that burn off the bad things and they barely smell. If you are worried about smell, turn it off, and walk it out side immediately.


I used a kerosene heater long before I purchased the forced-air propane heater. My kerosene heater ( a Kerosun) was 25,000 btu/hour and the propane heater is 30,000 btu/hour so they are pretty close in capability. The downsides of the kerosene heater, imho, are: 1) I would need to stock kerosene. Since I already have propane for my gas grill, it gave me a good excuse to have a second 20 lb propane tank, and 2) Since the kerosene heater I had did not have a blower, it heated the garage unevenly. It would be really hot near the heater and cold on the other side of the car. I know there are kerosene heaters with blowers but they aren't very common.

With that said, I was a happy user of the kerosene heater for about 20 years up in Connecticut and would still be using it except that I moved. It was easier to sell the heater then move it myself. The movers wouldn't touch it. Now that I have used both, I recommend the propane heater with a blower.
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I own an older KerOSun heater that really puts of a lot of heat. Mine is a little tricky getting the best flame on it to burn as clean as it should. If I start it outside and get the flame burning clean and hot first, it might be worth a try.
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whatever happened to kerosene heaters?

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I'll go ya one better.

30 years ago, I busted the gear reducer on the hand recoil starter, on my Yamaha GP633 Snowmobile. In the middle of a Wi. winter, of course.
The reducer was just that, to make it easier to hand pull the the cord to get it started (No electric start back then)

Took it to my uncle's house, to have the engine case Heliarc welded (It was an aluminum case, the reducer gear shaft pushed thru the case, cracking it. He had a window unit in the garage that looked just like a window mounted A/C unit, and it ran on fuel oil.
My uncle also had a side business removing fuel oil tanks from homes that had converted to natural gas, so he got all his fuel for free, actually got paid to take it away.
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whatever happened to kerosene heaters?

A friend of mine would fire his up and the garage was an oven within an hour. Heat leak my ass.

The modern ones have catalysts that burn off the bad things and they barely smell. If you are worried about smell, turn it off, and walk it out side immediately.


Bogus, thanks for the kick in the rear. I went down the basement and dug out the Kerosun heater. Went out to the shed found the empty blue jug. Drove around for two days looking for K-1 (wow that stuff is expensive these days). I cleaned the mantle and stoked it up a little while ago. Once I burned off the initial gunk, it seems to be burning nice and clean. I'll see how well it heats that garage. It was still pretty cold out there this morning, but we are supposed to get up in the mid to high 40s or even 50s today.

Cheers
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BTW - Its been burnin' for two hours and nice and toasty warm.
Cool - don't have to spend any more cash
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The best thing I ever bought was a torpedo Proane Heater. Not sure onthe BTU, but it heats fast. I use my outdorr grill tank on it. PLus around here, Home Depot has a 24 hour tank exchange. $16.80 right now for a full tank. Can't beat it. Doesn't take long at all to heat..especially in your small garage.


That is what I'm using in a three car garage it works great heats it up in no time
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