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Thanks Andy! it's crooked, but should get more attn. that way

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hm... What did you drink for lunch?

Looks pretty good! And don't feel bad, mine was crooked, too. I need to remove.. The wind caught it during install.

Next time, a piece of tape for level.
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Ya I shoulda used tape ! already got customers askin bout the site !!
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Cool!! Lets see if any show up!

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...and then the fight started.....
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ok. Even with my jaundiced eye, I am not seeing the connection.
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ok. Even with my jaundiced eye, I am not seeing the connection.


There are about 4 people that actually have those decals...and about 154 more that want them So let the bickering/begging/spitting/kicking/hair pulling/name calling begin.
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Amdy, can your machine cut 3M masking?
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There are about 4 people that actually have those decals...and about 154 more that want them So let the bickering/begging/spitting/kicking/hair pulling/name calling begin.


Matthew, sir, they are available... Remember? FREE!

Just with a $10 postage and handling fee.

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Hm... It might... I don't have any to test with, but the vinyl is pretty thick.
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There are about 4 people that actually have those decals...and about 154 more that want them So let the bickering/begging/spitting/kicking/hair pulling/name calling begin.



I'm flattered now, feel too special ;)
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Matthew, sir, they are available... Remember? FREE!

Just with a $10 postage and handling fee.



You had discussed that in a thread but I never saw anything official. Maybe I missed it? Perhaps we should post something under the supporting website forum.
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yes. after I get back from vacation... I can't handle the rush when I ain't here!

I have a few already cut... but I want to get a number more done, and I need more vinyl.

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I got mine but have been busy. It's been windy besides.

Hope to get to it soon and of course, I'll take pics.

Have to recheck the installation instructions. Something about rubbing something against something.
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Hm... It might... I don't have any to test with, but the vinyl is pretty thick.


Just checking, the 3M stuff would be nice to do flames with.
I have a hard time laying out flames by hand with 1/8th tape.

http://www.tcpglobal.com/airbrushdepot/mask.aspx

But, I've seen this on TV at about 3 feet wide used in a machine that cuts the mask from a computer program.
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well, yea. I would love a 3' wide cutter. Mine is like 11" wide. So I feel rather inferior.

I am going to try my hand at cutting the GS slashes.

I bought silver last year, and the damned things are TARNISHING! The silver pigment is garbage.

So I am going to recut in white. That will still look ok against the dk green paint.

I do need to figure out out how to get the old stripes off. I am thinking heat gun, but gently.
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To remove the vinyl, heat gun with a plastic razor blade. Once you get a corner up the hard work is done, just heat the vinyl as you pull back firmly. I've put on/taken off vinyl car graphics several times before.
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Just post here, Bill. We'll be happy to flame you
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To remove the vinyl, heat gun with a plastic razor blade. Once you get a corner up the hard work is done, just heat the vinyl as you pull back firmly. I've put on/taken off vinyl car graphics several times before.


Yea but be careful with the heat gun (I use a hair dryer since it doesn't get as hot).

And peel the vinyl back over itself (not straight up) like you do with masking tape to reduce the possibility of pulling any paint off.

Any adhesive left behind - WD or GooGone Citrus Gel.

I do this all the time on the racecars.
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Good advice all!

I am pretty deft with a heat gun... low heat, keep a safe distance, that sorta thing.
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OMG... the damned hash marks do not want to come off!

I have spent an hour on ONE!!!

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When you get an edge pryed up, shoot some WD in the edge.
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Hey Andy, Mark's dad (76 nordic) came by the shop n I gave him the decal to give to him.
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I will try that tomorrow!
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FINALLY he shows up! Excellent!
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Ya now lets see if we can get him to put it on the vette ?
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Well dave, my dad is back in the hospital, I haven't seen him this week seeing as I have been working 13 hour days this week including tommorrow (SUN) He did come by my work the other day tho to see what my big project was tho. And thanks for letting me know when Andy was coming by
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Read my sig...
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Well dave, my dad is back in the hospital, I haven't seen him this week seeing as I have been working 13 hour days this week including tommorrow (SUN) He did come by my work the other day tho to see what my big project was tho. And thanks for letting me know when Andy was coming by


Your Dad was just @ my shop Friday with the Impala, then i went to his house Sat. but nobody there.... Wat happened??

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Well dave, my dad is back in the hospital, I haven't seen him this week seeing as I have been working 13 hour days this week including tommorrow (SUN) He did come by my work the other day tho to see what my big project was tho. And thanks for letting me know when Andy was coming by


My comment "read my sig" was directed at both of you.

Dave told me he had informed you that I was coming that day and he was expecting you. So... as counselor here, it's time to discuss this.

What are your feelings Dave? Nordic? Did Dave lie? Did Nordic over think this? Is it all Mom's fault? Were you picked on as a kid? Did you wet your bed? Were you ADHD?





Ok... back to reality... Sorry to see your Dad's in hospital. Hope he is well soon!!!
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None of the above, running a bunch of tests on my dad. Dave never did tell me when you were coming out.
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Games people play....
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Here are the results.

I put the vert on first assuming that the smaller one would be easier. There is a light wind but I decided to do it anyway. The small one came out with some small air bubbles in the lettering. I pinned and pressed the letters into place. Still a few small bubbles but I'm gonna wait and see . I'll go back over it again later. I used my credit card to try and push some air out but had little success. I pin popped some of the bubbles and pressed the air out as best I could. The bigger lettering for the coupe went on much better. I pressed the lettering into place after application. Came out much better than he first one. So, here are the results.



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Here are the results.

I put the vert on first assuming that the smaller one would be easier. There is a light wind but I decided to do it anyway. The small one came out with some small air bubbles in the lettering. I pinned and pressed the letters into place. Still a few small bubbles but I'm gonna wait and see . I'll go back over it again later. I used my credit card to try and push some air out but had little success. I pin popped some of the bubbles and pressed the air out as best I could. The bigger lettering for the coupe went on much better. I pressed the lettering into place after application. Came out much better than he first one. So, here are the results.




Looks good.
The vinyl shops have applicators that they give you, a bit softer than a credit card.

Did you use applicator fluid or soapy water? - helps to prevent the bubbles.
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I don't think the soapy stuff is recommended for this vinyl.

If you peal and lay one letter at a time, it shouldn't bubble.

Looks great, Tommy! The size for the Vert is PERFECT!
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You should clean the window well before starting. Lay out the graphic while still under the protective sheet and backing still attached. Tape it in place at the midline of the graphic. Pull one side up and remove the backing to the tape, cut off the backing. Lay it down from the middle out using the squeegee and pressing it outwards. Once done with the first side, remove the tape, pull back the other side, and remove the backing. Repeat.

I would not recommend doing it one letter at a time. If you use a soap solution, it's only one drop of soap in an entire spray bottle of water. Shake it up and get the surface wet. This might cause the paper backing to tear or stick, though, so beware.

You can get those squeegees at HF in the car care section, they are basically bondo applicators. I have a few in the toolbox that I've used for vinyl applications.

Here is a good video:

http://www.decalfx.com/Video_Applying_Medium_Size_Decals.html

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And as far as bubbles, use a very sharp xacto knife to put a tiny pin head size cut in it and press the air out.

I also use a heavy duty paper towel or rag over the squeegee to avoid scratching or damaging the vinyl.
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That's possible I guess but, I always use either the commercial stuff or homemade. Never had a problem.

This environmentally friendly product is great for installing decals and vinyl graphics. Granted, not all applications call for a "wet" procedure, but we do know that in most applications, forty to sixty percent labor time can be saved by using an application fluid. Sometimes one person can do a job (normally requiring two people to apply dry) in less time if an application fluid like Rapid Tac or new Rapid Tac II is used. (Rapid Tac II bonds faster than Rapid Tac, and is intended for films with a lower tac adhesive than premium vinyl.) Application fluid cleans without leaving residues. It then helps to "float" the vinyl until it is properly positioned. Best of all Rapid Tac and Rapid Tac II stimulates the adhesive to bond in approximately ninety seconds, even in adverse climates such as extreme hot or cold. It will not cause bubbles so there's no returning to poke holes in your work either. Your customers and your reputation will benefit from higher-quality applications.

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I thought about the soapy water but decided against it. I didn't want it to slide. The first one I went from top to bottom. That was my mistake. The second one I put it in place and worked both sides to the middle. Again, no soapy water. The second one came out great. The first one, eh! It's like a mistake when painting a room. You notice it when you do it and maybe for a couple of days after. Then you just fuggetaboutit. Now I wonder how I'm gonna get it off the vert window. I believe the back window is hard plastic. No razor blade use there. I'll worry about that when the time comes. Maybe it'll just bake itself off over time.
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Plastic razor blade and heat gun with windex, goo-off, etc.
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How do you get Rapid Tac off the vert canvas? Huh? Huh? Huh? Then you have a mess. On painted surfaces I'm sure it would be fine.
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I've been meaning to order some of those - $7.99/100
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I've been meaning to order some of those - $7.99/100


Then you can send me 10 of them or fiddy cent worth.
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Bill is going to buy them in bulk and send every CG member one for their birthday.
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How do you get Rapid Tac off the vert canvas? Huh? Huh? Huh? Then you have a mess. On painted surfaces I'm sure it would be fine.


Donno, I've never put vinyl letters on canvas.
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You said birthday.


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How do you get Rapid Tac off the vert canvas? Huh? Huh? Huh? Then you have a mess. On painted surfaces I'm sure it would be fine.


Donno, I've never put vinyl letters on canvas.


Bill prefers to put shapes on his canvas items:

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1989 Corvette...RIP
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Matatk Re: CG Decal
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Bill is going to buy them in bulk and send every CG member one for their birthday.



You said birthday.




Happy Birthday!

Here is your plastic razor blade. Maybe Andy can make up miniature vinyl letters to stick on there that say "Happy Bday from CorvetteGuru.com"
Posted on: 2012/3/12 18:54
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Matatk Re: CG Decal
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Plastic razor blade.


I've been meaning to order some of those - $7.99/100


Q: How does Barbie commit suicide?

A: Plastic razor blade.
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