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-=Jeff=-	Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#1
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	So my vette has a 94 Console driver side (I feel the finish looks better) it currently looks like this: But the Console is bowed at the passenger side and I don't care for the edge of the Radio Bezel. I had cut the 94 bezels to fit. Now I am working on grafting the 94 to the 91 bezels.. Here is the console: the start of the Radio Bezel (I am still working on it)
	Posted on: 2014/7/7 2:11
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teebee	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#2
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	Posted on: 2014/7/7 14:50
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#3
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	Console has been easier, partly because I started with the Radio bezel. Now when I do the next Radio bezel I have a different way to try it and potentially make it a bit easier.
	Posted on: 2014/7/7 14:55
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#4
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	what glue(s) are you using? Looks great!!!
	Posted on: 2014/7/7 15:02
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#5
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	I am mixing this: with ABS Pellets I bought off eBay to make a MEK solution, I had it really thick but I have found that a thinner/runnier solution seems to work really well. I am very close on the Radio bezel and the nice thing of the MEK is it bonds quite nice and is solid
	Posted on: 2014/7/7 15:13
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#6
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	interesting... filler and glue in one mess... Thanks!!!
	Posted on: 2014/7/7 15:26
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#7
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	Yes, but more than glue.. the mixture will melt the ABS pellets and it melts essentially to the bezel.. the bond is seriously solid
	Posted on: 2014/7/7 15:33
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pianoguy	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#8
Guru Emeritus Apple Valley, MN 14762 Posts Member since: 2007/12/29 0:00	Very cool! That is kind of how the Plastex stuff works - it turns into a moldable goo that hardens into plastic.
	Posted on: 2014/7/7 18:07
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Matatk	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#9
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22803 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	Do you have comparison pics of the two bezels before? Nice work.
	Posted on: 2014/7/7 19:58
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#10
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	I don't have one of the Console, but can get one (I have like 3 or 4 console plates) Here is the ZR-1 1990 bezel and my modded one in early stages I had to open up the Radio bezel for my tablet as well.. I will get a more recent picture of the radio bezel soon
	Posted on: 2014/7/7 20:13
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#11
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	Quote: -=Jeff=- wrote: Yes, but more than glue.. the mixture will melt the ABS pellets and it melts essentially to the bezel.. the bond is seriously solid that's the basic premise behind plastic model glue, but it won't do that to ABS.
	Posted on: 2014/7/7 21:33
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#12
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	here is the radio bezel: the dark spots are my MEK (very thin mix) to try and fill the voids.. It is in primer so I can see all the voids and such while sanding it. I am quite happy with it so far I still need to add 2 holes to the bezel for my Volume and balance. The radio hole has been opened another 1/2" for the tablet as well
	Posted on: 2014/7/8 13:34
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#13
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	looks awesome! Have you considered some body filler instead?
	Posted on: 2014/7/8 15:29
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#14
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	yes I did, but getting the mix just right... Although I did use that on the console.. On this, the panel needed more of a build up and I wanted it to be solid.. this is working really well for me now
	Posted on: 2014/7/8 15:48
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#15
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	cool. I will have to check into that stuff. If you can, some mix ratios would be nice!
	Posted on: 2014/7/8 16:13
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#16
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	It was also a guessing game.. more acetone, the more it is liquid.. more abs the more it is like caramel consistency adjust to what you are doing
	Posted on: 2014/7/8 18:03
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#17
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	I think the Radio is ready for primer then paint:
	Posted on: 2014/7/9 3:12
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#18
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	Quote: -=Jeff=- wrote: It was also a guessing game.. more acetone, the more it is liquid.. more abs the more it is like caramel consistency adjust to what you are doing ok, that helps... more or less the same thickness as a 2 part epoxy And yes, it's looking REAL sharp!!!!
	Posted on: 2014/7/10 15:18
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#19
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	ready for paint
	Posted on: 2014/7/15 18:53
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#20
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	that is impressive.
	Posted on: 2014/7/15 20:30
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#21
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	Well it could be better but for a first attempt it is not too bad
	Posted on: 2014/7/15 21:42
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Matatk	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#22
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22803 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	Looks very smooth and consistent.
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96LT4CE	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#23
Guru Newb NWI 112 Posts Member since: 2005/9/16 0:00	Nice fab work. Make sure you don't shoot the foot when you lay down the paint
	Posted on: 2014/7/16 4:15
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#24
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	Not quite perfect.. But will work for now Now I need to fix the door for the console and paint that Disclaimer foot was saved form being painted
	Posted on: 2014/7/17 2:58
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#25
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	the holes on the right are for Volume and Balance just relocated from the previous panel
	Posted on: 2014/7/17 3:00
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#26
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	that does look most excellent!
	Posted on: 2014/7/17 16:11
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#27
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	Matatk, Here is a comparison of the OEM Bezel and my Bezel I will start on a second one now Here are the new panels installed. I used an older Ash Tray door as I have not finished refinishing the others Switches Left to Right: Amps Antenna Push button is Tablet power, lower toggle is Volume
	Posted on: 2014/7/21 3:16
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#28
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	that is serious work, Jeff. Well done and it looks EXCELLENT! I sure hope it was worth it from a sonic perspective!!!
	Posted on: 2014/7/21 23:40
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#29
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	YEs an no.. Sonically it sounds great with Pandora/Slacker/ USB music With the Tuner, it could be better, but my Antenna is fubar, it rained the other night and I could not receive any stations. On clear days I need to exercise the antenna a couple times to get good reception (no fault of the system) I added the switches since there is no remote turn on out of the amp. I wish I could find a Audio sensing circuit for the amps.. in the end all the bezel work was more for the 95 side panel.. on the driver side not the radio, I will build 2 more panels but not cut yet for the Tablet..
	Posted on: 2014/7/22 2:26
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pianoguy	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#30
Guru Emeritus Apple Valley, MN 14762 Posts Member since: 2007/12/29 0:00	Very cool!
	Posted on: 2014/7/22 12:19
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#31
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	Just bought another radio bezel to start widening.. I really prefer the 94-96 driver side console side, due to fit and finish. I thought I would prefer the 94-96 radio and console bezels, but after doing the work I did on the 91 bezel, I changed my mind. The one I bought is rough so it will be a fun project to rebuild. Keep in mind the new bezel I installed really was a first pass..
	Posted on: 2014/7/22 12:40
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#32
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	Quote: -=Jeff=- wrote: YEs an no.. Sonically it sounds great with Pandora/Slacker/ USB music With the Tuner, it could be better, but my Antenna is fubar, it rained the other night and I could not receive any stations. On clear days I need to exercise the antenna a couple times to get good reception (no fault of the system) I added the switches since there is no remote turn on out of the amp. I wish I could find a Audio sensing circuit for the amps.. in the end all the bezel work was more for the 95 side panel.. on the driver side not the radio, I will build 2 more panels but not cut yet for the Tablet.. I am going to remove my electric and go with a fixed short mast antenna... the new look... mostly because the electrics fail!
	Posted on: 2014/7/22 15:14
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#33
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	I thought of that route. with mine I don't know if it is the mast or the whole assembly. I have an assembly with the mast (not sure of the mast condition) I have also tried the Tune Trapper (in the garage) and at one point it was better than the Mast.. Although a hidden will never be as good as a mast, just not sure which route to go
	Posted on: 2014/7/22 15:20
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#34
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	I understand your problem... I would love to do one of those cool sharkfin antenna's, but I don't know where to put it... the OEM location fades away and the fin would be leaning to port!
	Posted on: 2014/7/24 16:22
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#35
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	SO I drove the car today.. Seemed to get better reception, I still think the Antenna is hosed. I will try the Tune Trapper hidden antenna I have, It was working really well in my basement for testing purposes anyway Updated pic: With the bezel being opened more I can press the home, back, and apps buttons easier. also looks more centered but I did nothing side to side. Volume and balance controls might be a bit too close, but it is different than before so they might be fine..
	Posted on: 2014/7/24 16:35
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#36
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	that looks great! Lovely job! I love the wallpaper on the tablet! PERFECT. Now... if we can figure out how to control things via the tablet... I have some thoughts...
	Posted on: 2014/7/24 23:45
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#37
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	there are some ways.. Arduino... or the IOIO.. maybe someday.. I need to learn Arduino programming first
	Posted on: 2014/7/25 2:42
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#38
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	https://play.google.com/store/apps/det ... id.arduinocommander&hl=en
	Posted on: 2014/7/25 2:57
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#39
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	Raspberry.
	Posted on: 2014/7/25 16:44
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#40
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	The thing with Raspberry is current draw.. Raspberry draws more current than Arduino, so depending on how it is powered etc.. This is cool too.. http://www.udoo.org/ basically android with Arduino Due all in one
	Posted on: 2014/7/25 17:51
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#41
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	time to research... we will talk soon!! I was on the phone to AT&T way too late in the evening Friday... ugh...
	Posted on: 2014/7/27 19:29
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#42
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	back from traveling.. Going to start on my second radio bezel (basically going to make it fit the console for now. not adding anything else until I wrap up everything with the tablet... I still need to either find an audio sensing circuit already built or build one. that would work to handle the turn on of the amps, I will keep the toggle switch, but this would be seemless
	Posted on: 2014/8/12 12:28
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Schrade	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#43
Elite Guru eastern NC / e-i-e-i-o 1909 Posts Member since: 2008/8/15 2:01	Coin slot buttons? Nitrous, Methanol, and parachute? Quote:
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#44
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	Left to Right Amp On/Off Antenna on/off Button, Tablet power Toggle Tablet volume Now I need to find a USB Audio input
	Posted on: 2014/8/16 3:58
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bogus	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#45
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	cool.
	Posted on: 2014/8/17 0:14
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#46
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	starting version 2. Not sure I will cut this one for the tablet just yet
	Posted on: 2014/9/2 3:20
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Schrade	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#47
Elite Guru eastern NC / e-i-e-i-o 1909 Posts Member since: 2008/8/15 2:01	Looks like your starting bond in pic 1 is done with a slight gap there Jeff; is that deliberate? Do you get more bonding agent in the gap like that?
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#48
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	Quote: Schrade wrote: Looks like your starting bond in pic 1 is done with a slight gap there Jeff; is that deliberate? Do you get more bonding agent in the gap like that? No the gap is due to cutting both pieces with a coping saw, by hand it does help for bonding as well by having the goop get between the 2 pieces. This bezel so far has much less bonding material so far, I think it will look much better when complete. I am also thinking of building out the radio side and getting the tablet mounted to the bezel, it will make for a clean and better flush mount on the user side
	Posted on: 2014/9/2 15:15
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#49
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	this one will take much less work to get it smooth
	Posted on: 2014/9/3 4:00
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-=Jeff=-	Re: Modified Console and Radio Bezel	#50
Master Guru Bartlett, IL 573 Posts Member since: 2007/12/20 0:00	this bezel is working out much better
	Posted on: 2014/9/10 2:14
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