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383tpimachine Who likes engine porn?
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Gonna start a thread for my new engine build.
Let me start by saying I am aiming for 450rwhp NA and 750rwhp on 12-15lbs of boost. Will throw on a 18-20lb pulley just for fun since that what my 3inch pulley should net.


Mamomortors works heads
235cc runners. Biggest exhaust valve he could fit.
Flow numbers to come soon.
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Correct alignment Yella Terra 1.6 shaft mount rockers.
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Hoping to have everything for my short block by Janaury as my block will take a while to come in then off to the machine shop.
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Love a good build thread. Will keep an eye on this.
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Some high end components there! Is that from Tony after he left AFR?
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whoa... serious weapons grade hardware!
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http://www.mamomotorsports.com/
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Just before he left but all him. Didn't get them until after the split but he finished them a few days after his resignation.

Wait until you see the flow numbers and valve sizes.

Cam should be in next week as well and will post up the specs. It is has quite a bit more lift than my current cam but should lope less.
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Who likes flow numbers that will hopefully net me 450rwhp NA before I throw on the blower?

.200....158....131
.300....221....189
.400....270....219
.500....305....238
.600....330....249
.700....341....254
.800....346....258
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Looks like a nice build.

Who did you get the Yella Terra rockers from? They are very good rockers but availibility has been spotty in the US.

You have a cyl head capable of making 700+HP N/A if that's what you wanted to do.....

However, being that you intend to put a blower on it, I wouldn't worry too much about what kind of power it makes N/A. What ever it makes N/A is not relevent to anything with the FI power... It's not like you make 400HP N/A and want to add 300 with boost.... it dosen't work like that. With FI or power adder engines you build (cam/induction/compression) to an overall power and RPM goal.

I just want to caution you that looking at it any other way is a recipie for disappointment on one end or the other.
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Looks like a nice build.

Who did you get the Yella Terra rockers from? They are very good rockers but availibility has been spotty in the US.

You have a cyl head capable of making 700+HP N/A if that's what you wanted to do.....

However, being that you intend to put a blower on it, I wouldn't worry too much about what kind of power it makes N/A. What ever it makes N/A is not relevent to anything with the FI power... It's not like you make 400HP N/A and want to add 300 with boost.... it dosen't work like that. With FI or power adder engines you build (cam/induction/compression) to an overall power and RPM goal.

I just want to caution you that looking at it any other way is a recipie for disappointment on one end or the other.
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Mr. Mamo has a good hookup on the rockers. They seem like great pieces compared to my current scorpion set.

With the increase in cubes and cam size I am just guesstimating possible NA power. Doubt I will even get around to dyno tuning NA and just street tune since I will just be looking to break in the motor. 3in pulley should net 19-22lbs. Thinking this will net 850rwhp and if it does I will step down 2 or so steps to get 750 or so.

Everything is aiming for blower setup but numbers are always fun.

Won't be disappointed in any numbers as long as it puts a smile on my face.

On a sidenote crank, rods, and pistons are all in and will have pics next week when I head to the parents house where they are sitting eagerly to be opened.

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227/239 .616/.606 on 114+4

Valves:
in: 2.125
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65cc chambers making it 9.31 cr

valve seats are cut to 47* and bowls blended.

Max RPM is 6700 with 6500 shift point.
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Made it home to check out the parts cache.

ARP everything with some gaskets and my melling pump.
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My bearings. Tri metal throughout.
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Some Total seal rings.
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Cam came in:
Card.
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Nice and shiny.
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Big box fun:
What could it be?
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Just a dragon.
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Little more callies:
Ultra H XD beams.
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Should hold up.
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The slugs:
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4.125 -20.5 cc dished
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1.125 compression height
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Big pins
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oh and a closet full of other parts
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Gas tank ordered and sent off to be baffled, trap doors, and sumps with bungs.
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Speed hut gauges will be here the 29th.

Will begin fabbing up a guage cluster.

Will place a few more orders around the 3rd for the remaining parts I need ie water pump, alternator, oil pan, timing cover and wiring harness.
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Big update coming monday.

Biggest let down is waiting for my lil M block. backordered. New ship date is mid feb.

Ordered a few more parts to hold the power and complete the long block.
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Block is 'set' to ship on Feb 11th as of right now.

But on the bright side more parts came in and I started fabbing a few needed pieces.
First the rest of the driveline hardware.
Got a flowkooler after they were recommended to me.
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24x timing cover with built in crank and cam position sensor. Wiring harness from 24x is on the way. Getting rid of the entire mess of a TPI system.
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Also the trick double roller timing chain and reluctor wheel to go with it.
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Issue with this setup is you need a balancer 1.325" thick or less. In comes ATI dampner at 1.2" thick.
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Lets not forget something to hold all the power. McLeod Street twin. 1200hp should hold pretty well.
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Last but not least is what I very excited about: ANALOGS.
GPS speedo, 8K with shiftlight tach, all the other vitals. Have an A/F already mounted in car for those wondering.
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Also after looking I forgot to throw in a pic of the Greg@blowerwerks magic:
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Well it is in shortblock, nearly longblock status. Need to measure for pushrods degree cam then start the swap.

Dart lil M 400 built with callies, cp, and AFR.
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Champ RR pan.
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Nice hardware.

This gonna' be for strip? Or street? Or both?
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Nice hardware.

This gonna' be for strip? Or street? Or both?


Mainly street with some tire burning autox fun and will get into the RR scene. Not much for drag in this car unless it is spur of the moment street fun.
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That is one sick looking motor, dude!

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Better be. Crane link bar lifters came in today. Waiting on oil pan ARP stud kit to come in. And ricks tanks modified gastank.

Then I will order my new bumper and spoiler. This project is taking a turn and I like it more everyday.
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Sure beats 'wax porn', that gets loaded to C4 F/B page...
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Made some more progress.

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TB came in

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Ended up with crane link bars
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Last pics for a few weeks:

Valve covers/breathers on.
8in crank pulley, ATI balancer on. Canister is for humidity.
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Rickstanks modified a stock tank with a nice sump, baffles and some fueling ports.
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Alt came in. 180A billet unit. Shouldnt have any issues anymore.
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Restarting on this old project.
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Another visit down south to the shop.
Car made its first long drive (160miles) since the T56 swap. No idea on speed but 16-1800rpm was cruising pretty damn well.

Got the car on the lift.
Hood off
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CAI, Rad, and condenser out.
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Engine/trans out:
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Old 383. Did well for a mild 408rwhp/435rwtq setup. Only thing I will keep is the powersteering, intake, and LT headers.
This motor will get a carb and get thrown in my 1970 elcamino after a few small adjustments.
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Made it down to the shop for a day of work.
Biggest goal heading down was getting the fuel tank out.

Mission accomplished.
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New sumped tank in cradle to check fitment. Will all be cleaned and painted before reassembly.

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Box of Redhorse fittings and hose. 10AN from tank to intake. Y to 6AN to each rail. 6AN return to fuel tank.

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Other fun was my decision to kill part of my K member to go to a larger crank pulley and smaller SC pulley if needed and make changing the belts easier. That means front Coilovers.
As I have an 85 I will be following LD85's example on that other forum with QA1's and fabbed towers. While apart new bushings and the arms getting powdercoated seem in order.

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Also new wheel bearings and painted spindles.

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I'd like to see how you re-enforced the crossmember
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Trust me pictures will be posted.

The monospring is still there. Ran out of time this trip.

Should be a pretty simple measure, cut, measure, box, weld, smooth and paint but nothing is ever that simple.
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Lil things done while I was away.

Gas tank cradle and gas tank painted.
Yes that is a tow hitch for my race trailer. Completely hidden with the ball off.

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Upper and lower A-Arms cleaned and powdercoated. New ball joints on the way.

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Next is playing inside the car.
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Little more work done.

Interior is a complete mess. PCM, heater core, hvac, info console out. Still sorting wires.
Engine harness is pulled but working on seperating to keep what I need.

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Finally made it back to the shop. Hate living 3 hours away.

To start the gas tank is finished. Fancy new top. Using only the sender.
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AC/Heater delete finished. Likely home of Meth tank.
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Motor at home.
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Front Coilovers with new towers finished. A-arms coated black with new pushings throughout and new wheel bearings/studs.

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Had to notch the K member frame slightly for YSi fitment. Notched welded and painted.
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Intercooler is being built by NoCornersCut fabrication in San Antonio Texas. They build the big kits for C6s, 2200hp big.
Going with a 28x8x3.5 core. Supports 1500hp. Oval exit out of the top with a 3in entrance.
Overall size will be 28x15.5-16x3.5

Cardboard is measure and adjust.
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Slight angle
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Moving Radiator shroud back 1 inch for better clearance.
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Perfect exit.
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wow! First time seeing this, did I miss it-what will you use for intake, ECM?
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Cant recall if I have posted.

I have a worked over HSR port matched and hogged out to nearly fit my heads matched to a TPIS 58mm tb.

ECM is a 24x setup with their timing cover, see pics, coil on plug system using the 411 pcm from an ls1 camaro/trans am. Sequential fuel injection, coil on plug, 3 bar MAP sensor, dual bank O2 sensors. Running 83 lb injectors on 93.

You know just stock stuff.
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Man I need more time off work to hang out in the shop.

Finished painting the rear. Gas tank and carriage are going in next visit.

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I remember a post about not being able to use the big optima batteries. I have to cruise control so no issues here.
Will be using both the time and side posts.

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Just needed a little trimming.

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Gauge cluster is made and braced. Off to powdercoating it goes.

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Also finished up the center gauges and just need to finish cutting holes out for the switches and off it goes to powdercoat also.

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I did some talking and thinking and bit the bullet.
Intercooler and Meth it is.
AIS makes a very sexy 3qrt underhood meth tank

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and Julio over and Alky control has a bitching meth controller setup that ties into my existing 3bar map sensor.

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Wow........nice work! I missed the part of why you are 3 hours away from the shop........
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Work. I do travel nursing. Luckily I usually only work 3 days a week but with the holidays I have been working 4 or 5.
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Another trip another round of progress.

Start with getting the gas tank in and planning fuel pump location and line routing.
Plan is to run the fuel lines along the passenger side.

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Then I modified my new fan shroud to fit snuggly with my radiator. This is a BIG dual 12in spal setup.

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Sitting in front of this setup will be my behemoth of an A2A intercooler. 28x8x3.5 core.

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This I mocked up my gauge clusters. Small 3 had small tilts to aim towards the driver.

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Then the biggest feat of all was first SC mock up.
Don't mind discharge orientation. I hadn't rotated it yet.

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But something didn't look right.
Took apart the supercharger. Painted the compressor and taking the discharge to be powdercoated.

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Then I had some time left over so I installed my meth tank and pump.

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T56 came back from GForce. Once the new rear gets here I will get it in and measure for a new driveshaft.
Need to mount catch can and oil cooler.
Weld tabs on the IC.
Headlights are almost done.
Still working on the wiring mess but getting closer.

All in all I am shooting for July for first drive.
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Very impressive.
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Another weekend. Another round of progress.
This weekend was 1 step forward, 2 steps back.

First was mocking up the fuel system. Didn't get any pictures but ordering the last of my needed AN fittings today.
10AN from tank to pump to firewall. split to 2 6AN for each rail. 6AN from rails to AFR and a single 6AN back to fuel tank.
Need a 90 for my FP gauge sensor but this thing looks like an alien.
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Supercharger is back and all together.
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Only thing missing is the alternator. AC delete bracket and tensioner powdercoated and fitting like a charm.
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Little size reference for IC. Using a 4in 60* coupler with a slight lean looks like it will clear the hood. Getting the brackets welded on this week then the end tanks with be coated black and core lightly painted black with a possible symbol/phrase. Any help here? Have 8x28 to deal with.
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When I started this build I planned to see how long the D36 would last. Then I said screw it and ordered a hammerhead 12bolt rear in 33spline from StreetShop Inc. This meant the rear must come out.
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This will make it easier to do the rear coilovers aswell.
While the rear is out the rear spindles will be taken apart coated and new bearings installed.
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Well another trip another round of progress.

First started by disassembling the rear spindles. Man they were nasty. 100k miles of grime an a blown ujoint caked up.
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Soaking
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and pressure blasted. Next they are getting powdercoated like everything else. Have new wheel bearings going in.
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Next I moved onto making AN fuel lines. This was a MAJOR pain in the ass. Turns out Redhorse fittings that are turns (45*, 90*, 120*) are SLIGHTLY larger than the actual AN size. This means the wrenches will not fit. Had to improvise with a few other wrenches.
10AN feed from tank to pump to split.
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Split goes from 10AN to dual 6AN. Each rail is fed then looped back to each side of the regulator. Single 6AN return.
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Wrapped and installed my headers with DEI titanium wrap.
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Then worked on the Charge pipe.
Rough fit
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Little more trimming or boot and pipe and drilled the holes for the meth injection. It goes off for powdercoating aswell.
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damn, dude!!! This is IMPRESSIVE!!!
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Next I moved onto making AN fuel lines. This was a MAJOR pain in the ass. Turns out Redhorse fittings that are turns (45*, 90*, 120*) are SLIGHTLY larger than the actual AN size. This means the wrenches will not fit. Had to improvise with a few other wrenches.


Nice build.

I've had the same thing with Earl's, Aeroquip and others.
Doesn't make much sense to have to put a steel wrench on a new aluminum fitting but...........
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Next I moved onto making AN fuel lines. This was a MAJOR pain in the ass. Turns out Redhorse fittings that are turns (45*, 90*, 120*) are SLIGHTLY larger than the actual AN size. This means the wrenches will not fit. Had to improvise with a few other wrenches.


Nice build.

I've had the same thing with Earl's, Aeroquip and others.
Doesn't make much sense to have to put a steel wrench on a new aluminum fitting but...........


If I had known I wouldn't have spent $50 on AN wrenches but it is what it is.
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Next I moved onto making AN fuel lines. This was a MAJOR pain in the ass. Turns out Redhorse fittings that are turns (45*, 90*, 120*) are SLIGHTLY larger than the actual AN size. This means the wrenches will not fit. Had to improvise with a few other wrenches.


Nice build.

I've had the same thing with Earl's, Aeroquip and others.
Doesn't make much sense to have to put a steel wrench on a new aluminum fitting but...........


If I had known I wouldn't have spent $50 on AN wrenches but it is what it is.


IIRC, the AN wrenches always fit the hose end fitting but not the adapters or 90 degree connectors. Just did a dry sump pump where none of the 6 adapters could be removed with an AN.

Yea, pisses me off every time, you need one AN and one steel wrench.
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Next I moved onto making AN fuel lines. This was a MAJOR pain in the ass. Turns out Redhorse fittings that are turns (45*, 90*, 120*) are SLIGHTLY larger than the actual AN size. This means the wrenches will not fit. Had to improvise with a few other wrenches.


Nice build.

I've had the same thing with Earl's, Aeroquip and others.
Doesn't make much sense to have to put a steel wrench on a new aluminum fitting but...........


If I had known I wouldn't have spent $50 on AN wrenches but it is what it is.


IIRC, the AN wrenches always fit the hose end fitting but not the adapters or 90 degree connectors. Just did a dry sump pump where none of the 6 adapters could be removed with an AN.

Yea, pisses me off every time, you need one AN and one steel wrench.


Ever used the AN adjustable wrench?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-900122

Think it would cover both bases.
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Ever used the AN adjustable wrench?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sum-900122

Think it would cover both bases.


Interesting, might have to get one.
My AN set is from Summit. Luckily, Summit is here in Reno.

Sidenote: In the last 10 years, I've switched from SS to the blue push-on hoses on the race cars. But the fittings are still anodized.
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