bogus wrote:
See? All this group read was my comment that I am voting for Obama and the venom flies.

Wow.

Blade_1 wrote:
They're all the same. All of 'em.

Forever and ever.

Amen.

bogus wrote:
See? All this group read was my comment that I am voting for Obama and the venom flies.

Wow.

red_johnny wrote:
The hate exists yes but its still alive and well in racism. But its not what you think, more people are racist against white than any other. Seen it many, many, many times. Yet if you say something YOUR a racist...WTF is that about?

CentralCoaster wrote:
Quote:

Blade_1 wrote:
They're all the same. All of 'em.

Forever and ever.

Amen.

The American public is incapable of supporting a qualified candidate, and the two-party system is doing their best to make sure one isn't even an option.

wesmigletz wrote:
Here's my take on it:



I started college in LACC after I got out of the Marines. I was working a 40 hour week and carried between 15-18 semester hous. At the time, I just wanted to be left the hell alone. I was neither a Democrat or a Republican when I started college. Philosophically, I was probably more of a libertarian at the time. My father was a biker, in the fixing his Harley in the living room kinda way, and my mother was a nurse. Both were left leaning, and probably influenced my world view to some degree.

What I experienced at college shocked me. The bile, hatred, contempt, and disgust hurled at me by my typical, liberal professors blew me away me, often coming out of the blue and usually having nothing to do with the subject at hand. One of my wifes good, tolerant, "supports the troops, but not the war professors" told her not to date me, because Marines are rapists. That was just one of many examples.

My accent, and rural up-bringing led to unwarranted derision and occassional mocking by students and staff alike. The redneck/hick/in-bred jokes and innuendos never ceased. The liberals made no attempt to hide their contempt for rural America. The leftists I knew seemed to think that by vocalizing a contempt for small town USA and a fascination with the forward thinking Europeans, they were somehow nuanced. To them, diversity of race, gender, nation of origin, sexual orientation, etc are good. To the liberals I've met, diversity of thought will not be tolerated. It must be silenced.

The aggressive and abusive behavior I've observed in liberals seemed to increase, almost exponentially, during the Bush years. I find this particularly troublesome, because my wife and I had far more liberal friends than we ever did conservative friends. For some reason, many of my friends were writers of some sort, fairly intelligent and articulate... mostly paper plate with a silver spoon types. My wife is a former fetish model, and used to work various clubs and events, and her friends were mostly from that circle. It seemed the majority of the people she met in the scene were every bit as intolerant as they were liberal. For the most part, our liberal friends were our social circle. We hung-out for years, but not anymore. They're nearly impossible to be around.

We had disagreements about the war. It was a topic I didn't raise, but was often goaded about. One night I was asked my thoughts as to how things were progressing. I answered the question as to why I thought we needed to stabilize Iraq before leaving. I then made the mistake of sharing that two of my friends had been killed and a third lost both his lower legs to an IED. I explained how my friend Shane got shot while allowing a group of Muslims to surrender... one of them let loose with a burst and he was shot through the hip and bled-out on the freaking desert floor. A guy I knew for years let out that my friend got what he was trying to do to them... I was like WTF?? Apparently, to him, and the liberals sitting at our table, my friend Shane was on the same moral plane as the POS that feigned surrender. I'm going to stop here, because I'm getting too pizzed to continue.

Bogus, I've met you and believe you're a decent guy. I disagree with your choice for president, but I do not hate you for it. My experience has been that those on the left, will confront and antagonize those that harbor different political/philosophical beliefs.

My wife wore her McCain/Palin shirt and "Lipstick Republican" pin while shopping for a Halloween costume at Melrose last weekend. How do you think she was treated by the good, tolerant liberals while minding her own business and trying to shop?

bogus wrote:
I am voting for Obama. For a number of reasons, and get this, none are race:

1. His platform fits my belief better than the GOP
2. Palin, tho she appears to be a bright woman, is truly lacking in experience. She is so out of her element.
3. The GOP has had it's shot... and 8 years has been way too long.

There you have it. I am not going to get into other debates on this subject.

jsup wrote:
Quote:

red_johnny wrote:
The hate exists yes but its still alive and well in racism. But its not what you think, more people are racist against white than any other. Seen it many, many, many times. Yet if you say something YOUR a racist...WTF is that about?

Obama, his wife, and everyone he associates with is an American Hating RACIST.

There's no other way to color it. (pun intended)

Just go as far as Michelle's whining hate America thesis...

wesmigletz wrote:
Here's my take on it:



I started college in LACC after I got out of the Marines. I was working a 40 hour week and carried between 15-18 semester hous. At the time, I just wanted to be left the hell alone. I was neither a Democrat or a Republican when I started college. Philosophically, I was probably more of a libertarian at the time. My father was a biker, in the fixing his Harley in the living room kinda way, and my mother was a nurse. Both were left leaning, and probably influenced my world view to some degree.

What I experienced at college shocked me. The bile, hatred, contempt, and disgust hurled at me by my typical, liberal professors blew me away me, often coming out of the blue and usually having nothing to do with the subject at hand. One of my wifes good, tolerant, "supports the troops, but not the war professors" told her not to date me, because Marines are rapists. That was just one of many examples.

My accent, and rural up-bringing led to unwarranted derision and occassional mocking by students and staff alike. The redneck/hick/in-bred jokes and innuendos never ceased. The liberals made no attempt to hide their contempt for rural America. The leftists I knew seemed to think that by vocalizing a contempt for small town USA and a fascination with the forward thinking Europeans, they were somehow nuanced. To them, diversity of race, gender, nation of origin, sexual orientation, etc are good. To the liberals I've met, diversity of thought will not be tolerated. It must be silenced.

The aggressive and abusive behavior I've observed in liberals seemed to increase, almost exponentially, during the Bush years. I find this particularly troublesome, because my wife and I had far more liberal friends than we ever did conservative friends. For some reason, many of my friends were writers of some sort, fairly intelligent and articulate... mostly paper plate with a silver spoon types. My wife is a former fetish model, and used to work various clubs and events, and her friends were mostly from that circle. It seemed the majority of the people she met in the scene were every bit as intolerant as they were liberal. For the most part, our liberal friends were our social circle. We hung-out for years, but not anymore. They're nearly impossible to be around.

We had disagreements about the war. It was a topic I didn't raise, but was often goaded about. One night I was asked my thoughts as to how things were progressing. I answered the question as to why I thought we needed to stabilize Iraq before leaving. I then made the mistake of sharing that two of my friends had been killed and a third lost both his lower legs to an IED. I explained how my friend Shane got shot while allowing a group of Muslims to surrender... one of them let loose with a burst and he was shot through the hip and bled-out on the freaking desert floor. A guy I knew for years let out that my friend got what he was trying to do to them... I was like WTF?? Apparently, to him, and the liberals sitting at our table, my friend Shane was on the same moral plane as the POS that feigned surrender. I'm going to stop here, because I'm getting too pizzed to continue.

Bogus, I've met you and believe you're a decent guy. I disagree with your choice for president, but I do not hate you for it. My experience has been that those on the left, will confront and antagonize those that harbor different political/philosophical beliefs.

My wife wore her McCain/Palin shirt and "Lipstick Republican" pin while shopping for a Halloween costume at Melrose last weekend. How do you think she was treated by the good, tolerant liberals while minding her own business and trying to shop?

bogus wrote:
This is it. I have been thinking about this for some time, and here is goes... This is my opinion.

I am voting for Obama. For a number of reasons, and get this, none are race:

1. His platform fits my belief better than the GOP
2. Palin, tho she appears to be a bright woman, is truly lacking in experience. She is so out of her element.
3. The GOP has had it's shot... and 8 years has been way too long.

There you have it. I am not going to get into other debates on this subject.

JrRifleCoach wrote:
Its gonna be a close election and one that will further tear apart our people & Democracy.

BillH wrote:
Quote:

jsup wrote:
Quote:

red_johnny wrote:
The hate exists yes but its still alive and well in racism. But its not what you think, more people are racist against white than any other. Seen it many, many, many times. Yet if you say something YOUR a racist...WTF is that about?

Obama, his wife, and everyone he associates with is an American Hating RACIST.

There's no other way to color it. (pun intended)

Just go as far as Michelle's whining hate America thesis...

Food for Thought in an email I got:
This is great. I have been wondering about why Whites are
> racists, and no other race is....
>
> --------
>
>
>
> Proud to be White
>
>
>
> Michael Richards makes his point.....................Michael
> Richards better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld does make a good point.
>
>
>
> This was his defense speech in court after making racial
>
> comments in his comedy act. He makes some very interesting
> points...
>
>
>
> Someone finally said it... How many are actually paying
> attention to this? There are African Americans, Mexican Americans,
> Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc.
>
> And then there are just Americans. You pass me on the
street
> and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,'
> 'Whitey,' 'Caveman'... and that's OK.
>
>
>
> But when I call you, Nigger, Towel head, Sand-nigger,
> Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink .. You call me a racist.
>
>
>
> You say that whites commit a lot of violence against you...
so
> why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
>
>
>
> You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin
Luther
> King Day.
>
>
>
> You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day.
>
>
>
>You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi.
>
>
>
> You have the NAACP. You have BET... If we had WET (White
> Entertainment Television), we'd be racists. If we had a White Pride Day, you
> would call us racists.
>
>
>
> If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.
>
>
>
> If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' OUR,
> lives we'd be racists.
>
>
>
> We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of
> Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who
pays
> for that??
>
>
>
> A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American
pageant
> but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.
>
>
>
> If we had a college fund that only gave white students
> scholarships ...You know we'd be racists.
>
>
>
> There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US
.
> Yet if there were 'White colleges' That would be a racist college.
>
>
>
> In the Million Man March, you believed that you were
marching
> for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights, you would
call
> us racists.
>
>
>
> You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and
> you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you
> call us racists.
>
>
>
> You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white
> police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug dealer
> running from the law and posing a threat to
>
> society, you call him a racist.
>
>
>
> I am proud... But you call me a racist.
>
>
>
> Why is it that only whites can be racists??
>
>
>
> There is nothing improper about this e-mail. Let's see which
> of you are proud enough to send it on. I sadly don't think many will. That's
> why we have lost most of OUR RIGHTS in this country. We won't stand up for
> ourselves!

JrRifleCoach wrote:

-Obama will be unable to unite the nation. He is polarized.

CentralCoaster wrote:
Everytime I read one of you guys say "us" or "them" in reference to either party, I roll my eyes. I don't understand how anyone can align themselves with group thinking.

JrRifleCoach wrote:
Here's something to think about Andy;

Obama voted to ban hundreds of rifles and shotguns commonly used for hunting and sport shooting
Illinois Senate, SB 1195, 3/13/03

Obama endorsed a ban on all handguns
Independent Voters of Illinois/Independent Precinct Organization general candidate questionnaire, 9/9/96
Politico, 03/31/08.

Obama voted to allow the prosecution of people who use a firearm for self-defense in their homes
Illinois Senate, S.B. 2165, vote 20, 3/25/04

Obama supported increasing taxes on firearms and ammunition by 500 percent
Chicago Defender, 12/13/99

Obama voted to ban almost all rifle ammunition commonly used for hunting and sport shooting
United States Senate, S. 397, vote 217, 7/29/05

Obama opposes Right-to-Carry laws
Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, 4/2/08, Chicago Tribune, 9/15/04

GunBaNOBAMA

Jeffvette wrote:

http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3

Jeffvette wrote:
What I hate is people who are going to be voting, are idiots. And it's not on one side, but both.

But this just shows how Obama is favored.

http://www.bpmdeejays.com/upload/hs_sal_in_Harlem_100108.mp3

biggrizzly wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5985719

Aardwolf wrote:
Quote:

biggrizzly wrote:
http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=5985719

That's not loading for me. What is it?

One thing I have noticed on many different forums is that the Obama detractors are really crude about it. Sometimes it
's hilarious though like the above remark about him being racist.

biggrizzly wrote:

I am so f'n sick of this campaign it makes me puke!