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Jeffvette	Re: Questoins about road racing/autocrossing....	#101
Elite Guru Not on CF 1297 Posts Member since: 2007/12/29 0:00	Quote: ghoffman wrote: Think of the different lines as tools for your toolbox or weapons for the fight. You are the one ultimately that has to decide and the more tools (or weapons) that you have the better you will be prepared. It has been said in many ways, but "The more thou sweat in training, the less thou bleed in combat". For people who are going to race, knowing different lines, or how to create a line after making a pass is an advantage. Most people who never venture away from a HPDE should stay on the correct line for their vehicle.
	Posted on: 2008/12/4 20:00

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ghoffman	Re: Questoins about road racing/autocrossing....	#102
Senior Guru 258 Posts Member since: 2008/1/25 0:00	I sure like your avatars (is that a pick-up line?)!
	Posted on: 2008/12/4 20:32

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SpectatorRacing	Re: Questoins about road racing/autocrossing....	#103
Elite Guru 1721 Posts Member since: 2007/12/29 0:00	Quote: CentralCoaster wrote: Its tempting to alter the line when there's a car behind me, but all that does is slow me down. Watch the in car videos from some of the experienced racers. You can clearly see when the car ahead is driven by a smart driver. You can watch the leading driver slow down in key spots, causing the follower to check up, allowing the leader to take off... There are several places at Mid-Ohio for this technique, it's very tough to pass through the back section if the cars are similar. You can see the leading driver slow down at corner entries where he knows the guy behind can't mount a passing attack, then be perfectly set up to exit and put some distance between them.
	Posted on: 2008/12/4 21:37
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CentralCoaster	Re: Questoins about road racing/autocrossing....	#104
Senior Guru San Diego, CA 9454 Posts Member since: 2007/10/28 0:00	That's funny because the crappy drivers in fast cars use the same technique, and then wonder why they never have to wave anyone by.
	Posted on: 2008/12/4 21:42
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BillH	Re: Questoins about road racing/autocrossing....	#105
The Stig Moderator Reno 22702 Posts Member since: 2007/12/25 0:00	Quote: Jeffvette wrote: Most people who never venture away from a HPDE should stay on the correct line for their vehicle. I agree, that's the fastest way around the track. When you're in a race, unless you're by yourself (which is boring), the lines change dramatically. Every corner is a passing opportunity or at least a harrassing opportunity. I like having the guy in front of me wondering which mirror I'm going to show up in next.
	Posted on: 2008/12/5 1:20
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BillH	Re: Questoins about road racing/autocrossing....	#106
The Stig Moderator Reno 22702 Posts Member since: 2007/12/25 0:00	Quote: SpectatorRacing wrote: Watch the in car videos from some of the experienced racers. You can clearly see when the car ahead is driven by a smart driver. You can watch the leading driver slow down in key spots, causing the follower to check up, allowing the leader to take off... There are several places at Mid-Ohio for this technique, it's very tough to pass through the back section if the cars are similar. You can see the leading driver slow down at corner entries where he knows the guy behind can't mount a passing attack, then be perfectly set up to exit and put some distance between them. The really smart drivers pick this up quickly and back off on the straight a couple of lengths. Take a different line and get on the gas early. But the best racing is side by side in a corner, pushing the slip angles to the limit with both cars drifting. When you run a regional schedule, you get to know who you can run with like this.
	Posted on: 2008/12/5 1:29
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SpectatorRacing	Re: Questoins about road racing/autocrossing....	#107
Elite Guru 1721 Posts Member since: 2007/12/29 0:00	Quote: BillH wrote: But the best racing is side by side in a corner, pushing the slip angles to the limit with both cars drifting. When you run a regional schedule, you get to know who you can run with like this. That's the key. Most of us still pay for our own damage, so contact isn't an option. There are a good portion of guys I trust not to lose it when going offline, but the rest I have to be especially aware of. This was even more evident in time trials, where you get good drivers when they're on the racing line, but have no racecraft. They are fast but not aware of who's where. I have video of an EVO who almost kills me three times by coming across my nose when I clearly had the position. Not because he was blocking, but because he had no idea I was there. He and I and the Series director had words that day...he no longer drives, but he's now a NASA official! Oh, the irony.
	Posted on: 2008/12/5 17:04
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