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Okay, I got to laugh. I got taken, probably in more ways than on The valve body in there isnt my original as they said something wouldn't work. SO, they put an Identical one in, so they say. I came home and a today noticed it was leaking, the pan. So, I went and got a new gasket, pulled off the pan, and low and behold, different body, wires hanging etc etc. Shifts fine, but its not the point.
If you can help in telling me where to look on the valve body to figure out what year is in there, let me know. I have some pics. I am so so unhappy to say the least.
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Vette is home. Shifted very firm, no issues so far. We could not get my valve body to work, with the Transgo or OEM stuff. So, we put in another valve body with all the parts I purchased other than drilling the valve body and used an OEM plate. Everything works. I am debating on whether I should send the valve body to Dana at Probuilt and see if he can see what my valve body didnt work, other than first and reverse.
Also, this is the first time this car has ever shifted firmly into overdrive. Before it used to take its time, now it goes right in. Upshifts and downshifts are fine. No WOT runs as tags are expired and I just wanted to get it home. My buiilder wants the valve body looked at by Dana at Probuilt. If he finds anything that may be causing this, then we can fix it and move on. My builder was wanting to just do a B&M shift kit (hhmmm, whoduthunk). Anyways, thats where I am now.
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Riddle me this batman. Okay, with Danas valve body and his separator plate (TRANSGO w/ Dana pre drilled) I have line pressure and rise, but no shifting into 2nd/3rd/4th. But I have reverse, and first. With another valve body on (this one to check transmission itself), I have all gears but no line pressure increase. I asked to have it towed home, but builder insisted he try one more thing, then he will send valve body off to DANA, after he checks it again on Monday. He will take valve body apart, again, re-verify all work.
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Thanks Pete. I am just dealing with it. Been traveling allot lately, and trying to save money for whatever.
We checked pressure at 1000 rpm and it wasnt as high as it was prior to the teardown at idle and WOT. Down about 60 psi at WOT. I also think the seperator plate is unique. TransGo sells one that fits quite a few years, and I beleive thats whats in it. I took the VB plate down to my builder that came out of the transmission, and several gaskets for valve body I already had. He is going to check the valve body today, as Dana wants him to and verify the plate. Dana told him which ones to use also.
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I may have found a valve body, Bulkpart says they have two available for the year I asked for.
R74740H Valve Body, (1 Switch) Auxiliary Type $152.96 R74740J Valve Body, (2 Switch Side By Side) Auxiliary Type $152.94
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PATC doesnt sell the valve body anymore.
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Me too. I went by the shop and we were able to get pressure up to 160 at WOT in Park (throttle body disconnected) and 60 at idle.
At this pressure it will burn-up. The builder is going to take the valve body off and check some internal valve, check the design of it for Dana. Other than that, very frustrating.
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Thanks. I will give Dana etc a chance. I will look on PATC site for a valve body.
PATC site and their ebay site have the valve bodys listed as 1987-93, so I emailed to see what they have. http://www.transmissioncenter.org/700r4_valve_body.htm
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Thanks for the help. Will a 92 valve body work? TCC wiring?
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Still in the shop. After putting it in I had no 2/3/4th gear.
Had a conversation with Dana (ProBuilt), builder of the transmission and Trans Go. Two problems. I checked pressure in park, 80 at idle and 175ish at WOT, but pulling tv cable. But wouldnt shift. Builder swapped valve body, shift fine, but pressure wouldnt go above 80 psi. So, Dana/TransGo and builder are working it. They think its in the valve body or boost valve/Pr valve area. Builder is not charging me as he feels its his fault. Great, but... Can I throw a 92 valve body in? What about TCC switch then? PeteK?
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Took governor out, seems good. Nothing broken and internal valve moves easily.
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FAIL!!!!!!! Worked good on stands, set fluid. Used PeteK's procedure to get all the fluid in, each gear 30 seconds etc. Reverse was fine, but wouldn't come out of first gear. I could pull it down and hold first, but it wouldn't go out, even if I manually shifted. It went through all the gears on the stands.
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The plunger is all the way out on its own, as I did pull on it. It does have a Trans-Go shift kit within too.
It may come down to GMs procedure using the torque wrench. It is a very good wrench, and calibrated. I used a machine and calibrated it for a 71inch/#'s. So, I know what the wrench needed to be set to to get 71inch/#'s. Now as the ASR section is clicking, I had to feel the click on the wrench. That is why I did it several times. I dont think GM intended the lever to be that far off. Bowtieoverdrives write is very good as well as the pictures to help you see.
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Well, I went and adjusted to here, as it was less than an 1/8"
No being impatieint, just seems that you want the lever to start at the front right on the plunger, and fully in when at WOT. [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2287.jpg[/IMG]
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With the exception of putting the pan back on and exhaust, I am stuck here. I have adjusted the TV cable several times yet it sets this far from the plunger. It goes to WOT fine, and the throttle goes to WOT fine, but upon return the tv lever goes out quite far. The plunger is as far out as it can go, so hydraulics wont send it further towards the lever. I asked Pete to see if I am okay or can I adjust the TV cable a little out to put the lever at the plunger at idle.
Cant afford to screw this little procedure up. [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2284.jpg[/IMG]
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Check, I will get on it tonight. I went to three different stores just to get ATF fluid. Gotta love Hawaii.
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I am hurrying. I need to assist in home preps for open houses as we are trying to sell too.
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I used the FSM, 1/8" drill bit, and a inch/#'s torque wrench. You release the throttle cable, disconnect the cruise cable, release the other cable and unlock the tv cable. You then put the bit in the ASR holes which lock all three cable reals together,. then you go clockwise and torque it to 71 inch #'s. Hold it, lock tv cable, remove torque wrench, then floor the throttle to reset the throttle linkage. I did it several times and the same result.
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Transmission is in, with the exception of two top bolts. Went ahead and adjusted the dreaded tv cable. At idle its not touching the tv valve, but very very close. At WOT it pushes the valve all the way in. So.. I should be good??
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I did mine at a shop with black leather.
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Which ones are those you speak of.
There were things wrong to me, and I am not even a transmssion guy. I think it wasnt built with any precision, as it seems to have been slapped together, IMHO. The transmission has been rebuilt. As soon as I bend my new cooler lines, and get my converter back, it will go in. Pray for me to the transmission sympathy Gods, as all I want to do is drive this darn thing. Also, would a broken/cracked piston cause the transmission to take a bit of time to go into gear, from park to reverse.
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Various pics from parts taken out of transmission
[IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2274.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2273.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2272.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2271.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2270.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2269.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2268.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2267.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2266.jpg[/IMG] Bent plate. Look near the extra boost valve and you will see if was bent over there [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2265.jpg[/IMG] Pieces and parts [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2262.jpg[/IMG]
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Pete in post #10, the aux valve body has two black rollpins( one is visible on top right), one is flush on top, and the one lower towards where the green electrical connector is, is that flush also, or is the roll pin hanging out a little?
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A few builders recommended different gaps from converter to flexplate, a 3/16ths was too much. Each builder is different, as PeteK has said several times. We'll see when I get her back, and in.
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Well, no pics yet. But builder has had it for a week. I had to go to Okinawa, came back and he had all, well most internals done. The pump? is out getting trued? as he said it wasnt very flat. He is waiting on a couple minor things and the rest should be done in a few days. He is doing it after regular hours, as there is less rif/raf coming in. He said 3/4th were fried. Based on the pump, torque converter being alittle further out, he blieves it may have just had too much clerance within the pack. He said it is hard to tell as he didnt build it and no real smoking gun is showing itself.
Vigilante is sending converter back, as it was freshened up. Vicki asked if I wanted to "upgrade" it while it was apart and change the stall. Bit my tounge and said leave it. So, 2800 stall single clutch, yet painted pink.
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Yours is rare, must have been a late build on a Wednesday before lunch.
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This a known C4 problem. I currently have mine narrowed, by 13mm, and with the GS offset I have a different size spacer( about 5/8 inch) on the drivers side to make it not hit the inner fenderwell and a 1/4 inch spacer on the passenger side.
Now, this is with 315's BFG and 1.75 negative camber in the rear. When I ran a VB&P advanced street I only needed the 1 /4 spacer to keep, on the drivers side, to keep it from hitting. Also, I am lowered 2 inches.
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One other thing that never really gets allot of looks is the IAC. It is a cause for vacuum leaks etc. It doesnt give a code, and the only thing you see on datalogging is what the ECM is telling the IAC to do.
Mine gave me less than desireable idle, for example, so I was unable to use AC at idle etc while in gear. I replaced everything, but it turned out my IAC was bad. I recommend you at least take it out and clean it, unless it is new as I know you went through allot on the older threads.
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Being stuck here in Hawaii makes it a little tougher. If I was back in SC, it would have been shipped to a reputable company or Pete, if he had the time..
Regardless, If I could afford the tools I would do it all myself, as I could take my time etc.
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Nope, Its funny because he is now the largest advertiser on Oahu for transmission repair now. His F430 is sweet though. I am sure I made at least one payment on that for him Seriously though, I found out he used to have a transmission shop in Arizona, and was asked to leave due to business practices. His name isnt even what he uses here. Shady person, as one person here who knows his background layed it on me. Sad.
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Matt, Soon I hope to find out. I ran autocross about three times, which was second gear only and was short from 30-50 seconds. So, I am not saying running it hard is possible in that time, but not likley.
The converter gap, or lack thereof as they pulled it forward to the flexplate, might be one thing. I am not expert, or have the knowledge of Pete. But, After the valve body TV valve sticking and not having the basic parts of the shift kit in there, tells me it was poor attention to assembly. We'll see when it comes apart if there are any tell tale signs. Regardless, when she goes back in. Attention to detail of install and TV cable adjustment will be my responsiblity as I am doing it this time.
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Hopefully the longest item turnaround will be the converter going to/from PI.
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Cut/pasted from another forum. Until I get notifications its hard to surf over here. Well, I went down the wonderful path of taking my damaged 4L60 out after finally getting money to get her fixed, again. Couple things I noticed. Fluid was nasty, and the pan in the transmission and the one I drained the fluid into was defiitely dark. Torque converter. It had exactly 3/16" gap when all the way into the transmission, yet the transmission shop took all that gap out and pulled it all the way to the flexplate, with no washers etc. I think that is BAD, and after searching the internet forever it was true. One of the cooler lines was already rounded, yeah for me. Its the one closest to the Servo housing, so I had to cut the line (flare it later.). Converter is painted silver, yes its a Vigilante but they fubarred it up when they did the last transmission build and painted it after they cut it open. It will be shipped back to Precision Industried for a rebuild. YEAH. The Governer plate wasnt all the way flush with the transmission case. See Pic. Filter was black. Before I take it to the shop I am going to try to at least do a pump check with the dial indicator, or do it when I get there. I am going to ask the builder to take pictures of the build, especially on the pump end play. Other than that, I am kinda tired of this crap. Any suggestions etc for checks etc before going to the shop. The guy I am taking it to is very good, good reputation etc. [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2253.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2255.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/Steve40th/DSCF2258.jpg[/IMG]
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I would check by cylinder #7 and see if there is a crack in the booster, other wise it could be check valve in booster.
I wrapped my booster with heat deflecting stuff, as i have headers and it was found by Guldstrand years ago while testing for GM/Goodyear that the headers can crack plastic boosters
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I have owned my 93 since 1996, and added almost 100000 miles on it, as it is in the 140's, and it had 48 k when I bought it.
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After seeing all the data against Fram, I researched filters for some time, and Puraltor One and WIX (Napa Golds) just seem to always be regarded as well engineered fitlers, so I stick with them on all my vehicles now.
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I think it leaked through the cap seal from the timing chain cover seals. Regardless, its been a long road for this guy.
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A friend is in Monterey and needs NOS dialed in and maybe a clutch, as he had ECS install a real grabby noise making clutch and may want it changed.
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The guy at the dealership emailed me back saying the parts are expensive. Here is a list of parts needed. http://www.blauparts.com/proddetail.asp?prod=F2A1012-B
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Pete, this isnt even a flush, just a pan fluid and filter change out.
My daughters car in SC is costing 1500 dollars for a complete rebuild with converter for her 98 Honda Civic, and that includes labor to R&R it.
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I have read a few write ups on it, and it is a little different, but their expensive fluid is 15 dollars a quart. It may drain up to 3 litres of fluid. Serious labor rates.
As soon as I get an answer as to the DEXRON it uses (owners manual says dexron ((but no number after it)) ) I figure I can drain it, drop pan, refill it with exact amount taken out with new filter and gasket. Cant be anymore difficult than that.
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