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The roof snaps and pops on my 2006 Corvette
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I bought a one-previous-owner 2006 Corvette in July 2013. Since the day I purchased the car I have noticed that when I got over bumps, when I am on uneven ground or pavement, sometimes even when accelerating from a stop or going around corners my roof makes snapping and popping noises. I loosened the latches that secure the roof and reseated the roof and re-secured the latches but the roof still does the same thing.

I came across some information that GM had issued a couple of recalls for the roof panels of 2005-2007 Corvettes because the adhesive that secures the panel to the panel frame was defective or ineffectively applied. The fix in the original recall in 2006 was to inject some foam-type adhesive under the roof panel. Apparently that didn't resolve the problem because GM later issued a revised recall where they would install a completely new roof on vehicles that were still experiencing the problem.

According to the service records that my local dealership, Hedrick's Chevrolet here in Fresno, California, was able to obtain from the two dealerships that the original owner took the car to, both of the recalls were applied to my Corvette, yet I'm definitely still hearing a lot of the snapping and popping noises that the recall notice says is a symptom of the poor adhesion problem.

Does anyone else with a C6 hear the same kinds of sounds from your roof? Maybe this is just a normal thing that I need to get used to? Or is there another recall that I'm not aware of that I need to check into for the same problem?

Maybe I'm worried over nothing. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.


Posted on: 2013/9/5 3:27
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Re: Warning "dings" when I open the door on my C6
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Figured this out. Apparently I was pressing the Accessories side of the off switch instead of the Off side. When the car is in Accessories mode and you open the door, guess what? Ding, ding, ding...

Sigh.

Thanks to all who replied.

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Warning "dings" when I open the door on my C6
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This just started happening this past weekend. The car wasn't doing this prior to that. Here are the details.

 

When I turn off the car and open the door, the car starts doing "ding ding ding ding" audible alerts about once per second until I shut the door. I had other cars (not Corvettes) do that if you open the door with the ignition switched off and the headlights are turned on to warn you so you will turn off the headlights before the battery goes dead. That was my first thought when I heard it in my C6 but my headlamp switch was in the Auto position like I almost always have it and the headlamps were not on.

 

Does anyone have any idea why it started doing this all of a sudden? It may be coincidence, but maybe not so I'll mention it. Just a few minutes before it started doing this, my wife was adjusting the sun visor on the passenger side when the post on the right side of the visor fell right out of the housing and was kind of dangling there in my wife's hands with all the wires hanging down that power the vanity mirror etc. She was able to push the post back up into the housing and pushed the flat plate back up flush with the bottom of the housing. (I'm not sure the visor is really "fixed." Seems like a poor, cheap-o design to me). Shortly after that when we stopped and I opened my door, the dinging started.

 

Any suggestions would be helpful.


Posted on: 2013/8/19 22:47
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Re: C6 Passenger Power Seat Control Lever
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I got my Corvette back today with the new lumbar bladder assembly and switch from Hedricks Chevrolet. The lumber now works great -- but for $475 it should.

 

For anyone interested, attached are some photos of our new baby, the Monterey Red 2006 base model C6 Corvette. We think she's gorgeous!


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Posted on: 2013/7/27 5:20
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Re: C6 Passenger Power Seat Control Lever
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 Andy, I take my hat off to you for your great suggestion. I called Chris Mays as you suggested and he said he can order the lever for the power seat switch for under $12 (plus shipping to me) and can order the door lock switch for the passenger side door for under $13. He'll ship them both to me after he gets them and I should have them by sometime next week. He said to tell you "Hi" and he appreciates you continuing to send him business. Regarding the high prices that Hedrick's Chevrolet quoted to me for the door lock switch, he said they must have been including shop labor to replace it in their quote to me. He had no idea why they told me I could not order just the lever for the power seat switch but instead told me I had to replace the entire switch.

 

Many, many thanks!


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C6 Passenger Power Seat Control Lever
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 I just sold my 1994 C4 base model Corvette (sniff, sniff, I loved that car but she was starting to have some problems and I wasn't willing to continue footing the repair bills) and purchased a gorgeous 2006 C6 Corvette base model in Monterey Red from a small dealership in Manteca with 46,000 miles on it. Overall the car seems really good except for some relatively minor cosmetic and functional problems.

 

  1. The passenger power seat handle or lever is missing. The switch itself with its three buttons is still fully functional. You can move it forward, back, up and down but the plastic or nylon handle or lever that's supposed to snap over the three buttons on the switch is missing.
  2. You can pump up the lumber bladder in the passenger seat but it will not bleed off air, so what you have is, in effect, a rock-hard bump in the middle of your back that you can't get rid of. I had a Chevrolet dealership here in Fresno look at it and they said the hose was crimped (pinched closed) by the seat to the point that it can't be uncrimped so air won't release from the bladder. They said someone evidently had the seat off and when they put it back on the hose was not routed properly allowing the damage to occur.
  3. The door lock switch on the passenger door is functional but the plastic top part of the switch with the lock and unlock icons is missing.

 

I asked the dealerthip, Hedricks Chevrolet in Fresno, California, about the cost to repair these minor (at least they seem like they should be minor) problems. They told me:

 

  1. You can't replace just the handle/lever for the power seat switch. You have to purchase the entire switch which, because it is programmable, is $260 plus labor to install.
  2. You can't replace just the hose of the lumbar bladder, you have to replace the entire bladder/hose/switch assembly which is over $400 plus labor to install.
  3. You can't replace just the plastic top portion of the door lock switch, you have to replace the entire switch which is $140 plus labor to install.

 

Here are my two questions.

 

  • Is there someplace online (maybe a salvage yard site or something similar) where I can get just the handle/lever that snaps on to the power seat switch for the passenger seat? It seems crazy to me that you have to buy the entire programmable switch just to replace a 25 cent (or $5.00 or whatever) plastic lever that snaps onto it. See the attached photo of the lever/switch.
  •  Is there any way to get the lumbar bladder to work without replacing the whole $400+ assembly?

 

Thank you very much in advance for any help and/or advice you can offer about this.

 

Neil
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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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After further testing for several days the mechanic at Hedricks Chevrolet was repeatedly getting codes from the Opti-Spark system so they replaced it with a new GM Opti-Spark. They kept the car for two more days and tested it repeatedly and were not able to get it to die any more so Thursday night after work I picked it up.

They graciously gave me about a $200 break on the price of the Opti-Spark distributor -- $650 instead of $850 -- because of the amount of time they had the car. Total additional repair price for the Opti-Spark, about $1,120 instead of $1,430.

Friday was a work day so I really couldn't test the car that day though it ran great all the way home from the dealership Thursday night.

I drove the car most of the day Saturday. I had one problem with it that may or may not be related to everything that's been going on. My wife and I went into a store for about a half hour and when we came out and I started up the Corvette, it ran for a couple of seconds and then started idling really rough and died. I started it right back up and it idled very rough for a few seconds and died again. I started it again and it was idling rough so I gave it some throttle and it smoothed out but when I let it return to an idle it got rough again and acted like it was going to die so I gave it some throttle again for a few seconds and it eventually smoothed out again. I let it return to an idle and put it in gear and drove it. It drove fine all the rest of the day.

The jury is still out on this. I wish I could say I had high confidence in the car again but I do not, at least not at this point.

I'm going to drive it quite a bit again today (Sunday) and see if any problems surface or re-surface.

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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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Alas, it was not to be. At least not yet.

The dealership called me today and said the mechanic had taken the 'Vette out for one more test drive this morning to make sure it was still running well since I was supposed to pick it up this afternoon. The engine died on him while he was driving it. Then he wasn't able to get it started. After trying for about 10 minutes he finally got it started and got it back to the shop where it died again.

They're still having the exact same problem. It runs and then it dies.

The mechanic seems to think it's still the PCM causing the problem, even though it's been rebuilt three times now. They're going to do some additional testing to try to nail it down to definitely being the PCM or maybe being something else after all. If they decide it's definitely the PCM, they're going to send it back a FOURTH time to be rebuilt.

Ugh!

I wonder if I'll ever get to drive my car again?

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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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Here's an update for all of you kind gurus who have read and/or replied on this post.

It has been just over 2 months since my last post. I just got a call from Hedrick's Chevrolet a few minutes ago saying my car is ready to pick up. They're saying it's really fixed now. I won't be quite ready to make that statement until I've driven the car for a few week.

Here's a recap of what has happened since my last post on February 22, 2013.

1. Hedrick's did further testing and decided it was not the Opti-spark that was the problem after all. They found a fault on the 5 volt side of the PCM. This was the very same PCM that had shipped off to Florida to be rebuilt by whatever company they are using to provide that service. The mechanic put a detailed note in with the PCM about what they found with their testing and shipped it back to them.

2. About six weeks later they got the PCM back, installed it, programmed it, then started the car to test it and found it was still dying continually just like it had been doing. The mechanic retested everything and said the PCM was still faulty. They looked around for about a week to see if they could locate a used PCM at a price they were willing to pay so they could install the used one to find out if the car continued to die even with the used one or if it ran properly with a different PCM. Their objective was to be able to "prove" to the place that had rebuilt my PCM (twice already) that they were not fixing whatever was wrong with it. Unfortunately they were not able to find a used PCM at a price they were willing to pay so they packaged my PCM up and shipped it back to the place to be rebuilt for a third time with another note about what the mechanic found during testing.

3. This morning (April 22) they got my PCM back after the third rebuild. They installed it, programmed it, started the car and drove it a bit and they say the problem seems to finally be resolved.

I'm going to pick the car up late this afternoon and drive it home and see what happens. If it doesn't die on me on the way home, I'll drive it for a few weeks to make sure I don't have any further problems with it dying. If I can successfully drive it for two or three weeks without it dying, I'll finally feel fairly confident that the problem has been resolved.

I'll update this thread again -- hopefully in two or three weeks with the news that my 'Vette is still running great!

Thanks again, everyone, for the comments, feedback and recommendations about this.

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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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Hedrick's Chevrolet says a lot of it is labor (at $185/hr) because it's under the water pump etc.

 

Sigh.


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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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If not for the $560 price tag for the MSD replacment to GM's Opti-Spark -- and the fact that the MSD unit only has a 30 day warranty vs a 1 year warranty from the dealer for the GM Opti-Spark -- I might be tempted to try the MSD unit. I really feel like I need the much longer warranty, though, especially given the price I'll be paying to have this fixed.

 

Thanks for the info and opinions, though.


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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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The Chevy dealership (Hedrick's Chevrolet in Clovis, CA) had the car several days and tested periodically until it the engine cut out on them after it had been running for a while. The tech was able to determine the problem was the Opti-Spark.


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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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Turns out the problem with my C4 is Opti-Spark. Ugh! After spending the money to have the ignition control module and ignition coil replaced, I can't say I'm exactly happy to learn the problem remianed and turns out to be Opti-Spark -- another $1,400 to repair. Sigh.

 

What's rather troubling is that the guy I bought this 1994 Corvette from a little less than two years ago had the Opti-Spark replaced only about a month before I bought the car. He didn't have the work done by a Chevy dealer, he had it done by another mechanic he used periodically so I don't know whether GM parts were used or if they were aftermarket parts, but it's troubling just the same.

 

Does anyone know what would cause the Opti-Spark to fail again in less than two years time?


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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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1Fast04Vert, you apparently posted about the same time I posted. Thanks for the great information! Sorry for the posts that must have pretty much passed in cyberspace.

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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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Wow! Lots of information in that PDF. Thanks, bogus.

1Fast04Vert, are the codes you posted above for the 1994 Corvette?

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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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Ah yes, I see my error. I was looking in the wrong spot in the left panel for the name of the poster. Sorry about that 1Fast04Vert, Woodstock and bogus.

Thanks for the welcome, bogus. Looking forward to your more detailed instructions.

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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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I really appreciate all the information Elite Guru, Senior Guru and God-Like Deity.

God-Like Deity, I look forward to your more detailed instructions to follow.

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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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Take a paperclip and scan it for codes?

I don't understand. Am I being dense?

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Re: Car cuts off while driving
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I have a 1994 Corvette (not the ZR1) with LT1 engine that's been doing the same thing for about a month now. The engine just cuts out completely periodically. There doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason.

* Sometimes cuts out within a minute or two of starting it.
* Sometimes runs great for a half hour or more and then the engine cuts out.
* Sometimes cuts out while idling.
* Sometimes cuts out while driving down the road at speed (even at 70 mph on the freeway)

Usually if I put the car in neutral and wait a few seconds and then turn the key back to Start, it will start back up. Other times I have to wait 20 or 30 seconds or longer (sometimes a minute or two) before it will start back up. On those occasions when it won't start back up the engine turns over just fine but it won't start until I let it sit off a while longer.

When it's running it has good power and runs nice and smooth. When the engine cuts out the electrical is all still working fine -- my digital speedometer remains on, all power and accessories still work -- but the engine is dead.

I just replaced the ignition control module and the ignition coil. That did not resolve the problem but now my Service Soon lamp on the center console is lit a lot of the time.

Does anyone have any other ideas about what the problem might be?

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