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96LT4CE | DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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Yup, that's not a typo, I own a 1996 but I'll be reviewing the programmer for a 1995 as that's what was found in my car! So as of now I don't know if my problem is a compatibility issue or if this one is dead and I can get another one like it. The fact is the 1996 has it's own part number and I cant find any info on someone who has actually used one from a another year and documented it.
Backstory on removal.... take the driver seat out and prepare to get under the dash. I don't think there is any other way to do it. I'm 5' 7" and about 210 and it was about a 6/7 on the PITA scale. Once you bust hump, this is what you get. As you can see the part number is to a 1995 and someone one wrote on it "dual zone" and then "95-6" here's a close up of the nipples everyone always talks about. Not this issue in my situation the back cover to this is a piece of cardboard taped on. Seriously, that's all that covers the boards. I was so pissed I took it off and forgot to take a pic. Once it's off go for the single connector in the corner and pull it off. here's the inside in all it's glory. you'll need to pull the two screws I have circled in order to get the vacuum solenoid bank clear of the mother board start lifting up and over then outta the way. Since my issue wasn't with these guys I just gave them the once over. Nothing visible for me to address so I left them alone. two more screws and then you can pull the board: |
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Posted on: 2014/7/22 5:14
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96LT4CE | Re: DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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And here it is! The board doesn't seem to be that complex of a circuit with the exception of the couple of chips. I was hoping to find a blown cap or diode. No luck. What I did find and hope was the issue was the corrosion in one spot!
The reality is most electronics boards can be washed. People assume that water kills electronics and that isn't true. power on a circuit plus water kills boards! with that said I took my 91% alch and washed both sides of the board with my fingers crossed. You can see it cleaned the spot. to bad it didn't cure my AC problem re assembly is straight forward. just reverse the process. and there you have it, you've talked another inspection! |
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Posted on: 2014/7/22 5:20
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Matatk | Re: DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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Good pictures. As far as I can tell from the parts manual, the original part number for the 94-95 is the bottom number, 16192582, and the replacement/rebuilt number is 16177111.
I am certain I have read of people using the 95 programmer in the 96 model year without issue. I will have to dig in to it a little later. Matthew |
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Posted on: 2014/7/22 11:42
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-=Jeff=- | Re: DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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so are you in need of a programmer?
what is the 96 PN? I can check mine tonight |
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Posted on: 2014/7/22 11:51
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bogus | Re: DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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I wonder if the corrosion blew out that chip?
Great write up!! Sure looked like a smoking gun to me. |
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96LT4CE | Re: DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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Thanks guys.
Ya, so at this point I'm looking for a programmer. The 1996 part # should be 16218401, 16227376, 19151964 All three of those numbers are the same part I have no idea why they change them throughout he years. So those are the actual 1996 numbers. I have the 1995 programmer, so if someone can verify without a doubt that a 1995 programmer works then I could use part # 16177111, 16192582 |
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Posted on: 2014/7/22 17:34
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-=Jeff=- | Re: DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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SO I have a 90 Programmer in the garage. I had a 96 that we swapped into a 1990 ZR-1 and it worked fine, in fact there was no difference in operation. I think you should be fine with the 95 programmer.. heck the controller worked the same in all the years and you could swap them.
I know I have another programmer, but I need to locate it, it is either here or at my storage facility |
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Posted on: 2014/7/23 2:39
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Matatk | Re: DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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I can't find any reference to using an earlier programmer. So that might be a bust! Did the ac ever work correctly before it started doing this? |
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Posted on: 2014/7/23 13:20
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96LT4CE | Re: DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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If you have another programmer please let me know. At minimum I could try it to see if it works.
to be honest with you I don't know if the AC ever worked!! |
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Posted on: 2014/7/23 21:49
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-=Jeff=- | Re: DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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I have the one for sure.. I know I have another, but I will nto be able to get to it for a couple weeks |
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Posted on: 2014/7/24 2:38
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96LT4CE | Re: DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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It's all good. Whatever you can do to help is appreciated.
Will i cause any harm by running the car with no programmer at all? I'm gonna start it up and see if the blower stays on or something crazy like that |
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Posted on: 2014/7/24 4:36
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Woodstock | Re: DIY: 1995 AC Programmer clean and inspection | ||
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I was hoping to find a blown cap Try replacing those 4 caps with the silver top anyway. I had luck doing so. |
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Posted on: 2014/7/24 9:44
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