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In theory no, let's face it, it's hard to revolutionize a simple shoulder bushing, and I've already admitted that it will be a delrin & aluminum bushing. I did the execution of the lower a little different in an effort to improve the rotation of the lower control arm by changing the mounting hardware as well as the bushings. When I had the new upper control arm bushings made I had a new control arm spindle made as well. I was able to install the bushings and re-assemble the control arms spindle with a simple bench vise. I did not need a press for re-assembly (I did need one to remove the original spindle and urethane bushings however). This re-assembly was something I was really excited about because once you've done that swap you're done with the need for a press to change bushings, liners or even the spindle itself. I could be over estimating the appeal of this feature but time will tell. I also am not doing the grease fitting on my bushings at this time. I'm just not sure why it's necessary. My goal has been to remove grease and grease fittings from the suspension wherever possible. I've succeeded in the rear suspsension so far and would love to do the same with the front. Teflon, Delrin and other polymer wear materials have great properties, even when dry, why not take advantage of that and not use a grease that attracts and holds dirt, grime and breaks down with heat? I hate greasing points on the chassis because I always seem to end up wearing more than I've put in. That might just be me 
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Only after I'm convinced it's safe, even though it's just testing. I live with a girl who is a paralegal so I have a very slanted view on those types of things. 
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Delrin and aluminum. This one is designed to be used with the factory control arms so it's just bushings. I'm toying with the idea of the turnbuckle style adjustable length control arms as well.
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I actually have a prototype front suspension on my car now. I've been to the track with it for 3 days and so far so good. I was floored by the difference made by replacing the poly bushings with the low friction ones I've prototyped. Just like in the rear, with the poly bushings in place and no spring or shock on I still struggled to move the suspension up or down. You could just see the poly bushing's shoulders mashed into the frame and causing binding. With these bushings in the stock control arms they go to full droop just under their own weight. I've incorporated a few changes in the upper control arm in an effort to ease re-assembly. I also made a change to the mounting of the lower control arms to try to reduce any excess clearance without making binding of its own. Unfortunately I've been battling other stupid issues that have kept me off track much more than I'd like but hope to get back to it soon.
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The owner of this project was kind enough to send me one of the chapters of the how to book he is writing on this '57 restomod project that is using a C4 suspension.
I was incredilby flattered to find out that he included a supplement on how to install and set up our C4 rear suspension system. The book looks very interesting and the chapter I got to read was quite well written with the do-it-yourselfer in mind. As he is using both the front & rear suspensions of a C4 he gives great detail on how to restoring and rebuild the suspension so this would be a great resource for anyone thinking about doing the same thing to their 4th Gen.
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Never mind. Saw the pics from the other thread and that answered my questions.
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What I was trying to accomplish with developing that toe rod kit was to make setting toe a little easier in addition to what I saw as small improvements over the stock piece(s). I've had much better luck with the Telfon lined steel rod ends lasting longer than the stock inner ends. And the Teflon lined rod ends are much easier to change if necessary. Since the Teflon lined rod ends are used on both sides of each link, I was able to eliminate the greased rod end on the knuckle. This is a personal preference for me as I hate grease fittings and grease guns. I always end up wearing more grease than I've put into the rod end. I find setting toe is a little easier as well. The link bodies are round and have a knurled section that is easy find and grab when reaching under the car and does not require a wrench to turn. Lastly, tightening the links once the toe is set is considerably easier. Since we've replaced the typical jam nut with an omega clamp the only thing you need to lock down your new toe setting is a 12 point 1/4" socket. There is no need to get two large wrenches into position to lock the jam nut in place. This is what I see as the single biggest advantage over the stock system. Does our system hold toe better than a brand new stock style system? I won't be so bold as to say that. However, I do a lot of alignments on my C4 and some others as well and I can say from experience that making the adjustments is faster and easier, as well as far easier to lock down when you're done.
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One other thing not to ignore is: what size are your front brakes? 12" or 13"?
If you've still got the 12s you can easily upgrade to the J55 kit to improve your braking. That, along with the aforementioned DRM bias spring will make a big difference in being able to whoa your car down.
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That it intersting. My guess would be that it's still fairly effective because IIRC it attacks any mucous membrane so it will still immediately be exposed to the mucous membranes in you nose and mouth. Although the sunglasses might prevent direct contact with the eyes it doesn't seal them off so there would still be some eventual effect. This might be an interesting tangent ...
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Simpler was certainly the goal, along with trying to be better than the urethane solution. It would be suitable for either street or track. One thing even I've been surprised by is the feedback I've gotten from both applications for the rear suspension. Better grip is better grip no matter what kind of pavement you're on, and that's what we're all looking for.
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If you'll allow me to tease you a bit more: I have a new front suspension on my car now that has handled quite well so far this season. I've been @ the track with it 4 times this year and have been happy with it's handling characteristics so far. I still have a few more events before I'm going to tear it down and inspect it to ensure that it's robust enough. The kit replaces the lower bushings, upper bushings and the upper control arm spindle. The reason for replacing the spindle is to ease re-assembly. After having to press the old control spindle out through both bushings I said to myself that there had to be an easier way. I was able to put the bushings in the control arms with a simple bench vise and the spindle is specially designed to assemble without a press, on the bench. Delrin is used in all the key areas of motion.
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Are you looking @ doing control arm bushings up front or the multi-link bushings in the rear?
In either case I'm less and less inclined to recommend poly bushings the more I get into rebuilding the suspension on my own car. In one of the threads above CC referred to the shoulders of the bushings binding when the bolts are tigthened and that's 100% true. When I took apart my front end over the winter and after removing the front spring my control arms (with poly bushings) wouldn't even rotate about their axis under their own weight becasue the shoulders were crushed and caused binding. After I installed new bushings they rotate freely with very little slop. The more your suspension binds the less efficient your springs and shocks are, which means all that work you put into their setup goes down the tubes.
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Here's one from the beginning of May during this season's first Time Trial @ Monticello Motor Club in upstate NY.
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Just a reminder that our C4 rear suspension sale is over at the end of April. So, if you haven't placed your order yet, you still have about a week and a half.
At our online store we're offering 10% off list price of any individual kit (trailing arm, camber rod or toe rod) and 15% off the list price of the three kit bundle. Enjoy the season (for those that have to put cars away during the winter).
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Be careful with SST as it's typically not as strong as the other Grade 8 or Class 10.9 hardware used. Make sure to use the same grade bolt as the original.
Look for local hardware supplier in the (online or hard copy) yellow pages or try Fastenal. MSC and Grainger are other online suppliers although I've found Grainger's hardware selection limited as compared to McMaster or MSC.
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We've extended the special until the end of April to celebrate what seems to be an early Spring here in the NorthEast.
Have a good one Gurus!
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It's 15% off the normal price, not 15% off the sale price (which is 10% for any one kit). The normal retail prices for the trailing arms, camber rods and toe rods (respectively) are $360 + $220 + $360 = $940 $940 x 15% = $141 $940 - $141 = $799
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Only one week left on the Spring sale so don't miss out. We have all three kits in stock and ready to go.
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We just completed the first modification to fit an FX3 shock. Once we had a shock in hand it was a pretty simple mod so we will be offering an FX3 specific kit in addition to the kits for C4s with 10 mm shock rods.
Below is a pic of a rear FX3 equipped shock with the pin top mount in place.  Here is a pic of how the FX3 sensor fits nicely into a modified Stainless Steel cap: 
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It's compatible in that the stock rubber bushings go in the same place on either non-adjustable or FX3 shocks. Many thanks to Aboatguy for posting the pics above of his FX3s. The kit is currently designed specifically for a 10 mm shock shaft but should be relatively easy to modify for a slightly bigger shaft. I am actually working on getting that set up now and plan on modifying a kit for FX3s in the next couple of days. When I get that finished I'll make sure to post updates to let everyone know.
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Heim jointed sway bar links. Heim joints are another term for spherical bearing or rod end, like the type you'll be getting on the rear suspension kits. The sway bar links are basically miniature versions of the links you'll be replacing on the rear suspension. The spherical bearings allow more free rotation and remove binding. Typically the length is adjustable so you can properly corner weight the car. There are a number of swaybar links out there for the C4 but be wary and look closely at each since they all have different characteristics. Make sure to see if each has truly infinite length adjustability or just the half turn adjustability of a male rod end threaded into a female rod end.
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Quote: CentralCoaster wrote: I see your point on the eyelets in back, but in front there is only one axis of rotation for the control arm, so if the shock is perpendicular to the LCA pivot axis, eyelets would work top and bottom. I don't see where a spherical setup would help the geometry. Exactly right and all I really wanted to do was to be able to account for the fact that the shock will probably never be perfectly perpendicular to that axis in the real world. If I can easily account for some off axis deflection I like to. Quote: CentralCoaster wrote:As for the materials... it seems like something like this could work. You could machine grooves in the eyelet to hold the snap rings in place or fabricate some other means of sandwiching or clamping it in there. That's what I started working towards. I just found the eyelets on the front Bilstiens I have were sized such that the spherical bearing I ended up using was smaller than I wanted and the T-bar on the bottom would have been much smaller than I would have been comfortable with. The front shocks had a tapered cross section to its eyelet, complicating the bearing holders.
Below is what I started to develop but just didn't think it was worth the effort for a set of shocks I really only plan on using for a season or two until I can upgrade to Penskes with the spherical bearing bottom mount anyway.
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Shipping via FedEx ground would be approximatley $32. Quote:
We believe the installation to be very straighforward. As CC said: take off the rear wheel and you have access to everything you need. The only other thing we sometimes suggest is doing one link at a time to limit how much the knuckle can move around on you while you're trying to line up the new hardware.
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March 1st brings hopes and dreams of Spring to a damp and cold NorthEast and hopefully brings some savings to the C4 Gurus.
For the months of March and April all our C4 rear suspension kits are 10% off when purchased individually, and 15% off when purchased as a bundle of 3. So visit our online store to check out all our products and enjoy.
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I think it's a shortcoming just like any rubber or poly bushing as compared to a spherical type of bearing, and it's not limited to the rears of 84s to 87s. A similar eyelet design is on the bottom front of all C4s (IIRC) and the bottom of the rears on the 88s to 96s as well. Unfortunately it's not an easy thing to address in an existing shock designed for that type of bushing. It's funny that you bring this up because I fell into a nice deal on some slightly used Bilstiens for my 93 and when I got them I wanted to retrofit the bottoms of all four with a spherical bearing. As I measured them up and was going through the design process I actually found that it was more trouble than I thought is was worth and have put the project aside. My plan is to put them on my car with the Bilstien bushings in the bottom and the Delrin/SST pin top mounts.
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I went back to find these videos that Hardbar made when they first released this product last summer. They'll clearly show some of the benefits of this product.
This video shows how a shock with a stock C6 rubber bushing on top and bottom reacts. http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h28 ... ew¤t=rubbertest.flv This video shows how adding only the top half of the mount cuts down on the "jumping" the shock does. http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h28 ... ent=HardbarDelrintest.flv Finally here is a video showing how easily the shock will pivot with this mount. http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h28 ... view¤t=P7080015.flv
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I went back to find these videos that Hardbar made when they first released this product last summer. They'll clearly show some of the benefits of this product.
This video shows how a shock with a stock C6 rubber bushing on top and bottom reacts. http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h28 ... ew¤t=rubbertest.flv This video shows how adding only the top half of the mount cuts down on the "jumping" the shock does. http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h28 ... ent=HardbarDelrintest.flv Finally here is a video showing how easily the shock will pivot with this mount. http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h28 ... view¤t=P7080015.flv
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In a discussion I've been having offline with Aboatguy I went back to find these videos that Hardbar made when they first released this product last summer. They'll clearly show some of the benefits of this product.
This video shows how a shock with a stock C6 rubber bushing on top and bottom reacts. http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h28 ... ew¤t=rubbertest.flv This video shows how adding only the top half of the mount cuts down on the "jumping" the shock does. http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h28 ... ent=HardbarDelrintest.flv Finally here is a video showing how easily the shock will pivot with this mount. http://s67.photobucket.com/albums/h28 ... view¤t=P7080015.flv
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From the pics you've posted the kit would mount properly where it needs to as the FX3 sensors are above the stock rubber bushings on both front & rear.
If the rod on your shock is 12 mm then you're correct in that the kit will not fit as it is specifically for a 10 mm shock rod. However, that doesn't necessarily mean it could not be modified to work for your application. If you'd like to pursue this, contact me via email and we can discuss it further.
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That's an interesting question as I have yet to see them on a car with the stock style FX3 shocks. I will look into it and post what I find. Would you be able to email me or post some pics of the tops of your FX3 shocks? Both front & rear?
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The benefit is that it allows the shock to pivot with almost no side loads on the pin top of the shock. The stock rubber or aftermarket urethane bushings need to be compressed for the shock to pivot, which puts a bending load on the pin top. This kit allows it the pin top to pivot almost effortlessly.
The benefits are for both street & track as any time you reduce the forces on the mounting portions of your suspension components the better those components will work to maximize your grip. With corrosion resistant stainless steel and Delrin this kit needs no grease and will be quiet on the street and track.
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Hi there. Some of you may not be familiar with me because although I'm a registered vendor here on guru up until now I've spent most of my time over in the C4 section. But now I'm excited to announce that we have the great pin top shock mount from our friends @ Hardbar USA. When we first saw this product we knew it would be a big hit.
The kit comes with everything you need to upgrade all four shocks on your C6 and it is a totally bolt in installation. No modifications necessary. Swing by our website to check out what we have and browse our online store.
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Hi there. Some of you may not be familiar with me because although I'm a registered vendor here on guru up until now I've spent most of my time over in the C4 section. But now I'm excited to announce that we have the great pin top shock mount from our friends @ Hardbar USA. When we first saw this product we knew it would be a big hit.
The kit comes with everything you need to upgrade all four shocks on your C5 and it is a totally bolt in installation. No modifications necessary. Swing by our website to check out what we have and browse our online store.
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We're excited to announce that we now have the great pin top shock mount from our friends @ Hardbar USA. When we first saw this product we knew it would be a big hit and also knew it would go so well with our C4 rear suspension kit.
The C4 specific kit comes with the same pin top shock mount as used on the C5 & C6 and also includes two new stainless steel "eyeball" plates to replace the stock ones on the rear of your C4. These eyeball plates make the kit an entirely bolt in installation with no modifications necessary. Swing by our website to check out what we have and browse our online store.
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Mine has been trailered for a few years now so no daily driver duty but I've finished 3 seasons on mine and don't see any play in the rod ends yet. I do approx 10 days @ the track per year, pretty agressive driving.
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You were one of the first 3 IIRC. Should have been mid 2008. So a good 1-1/2 years now.
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I'm very proud to say that our suspension kit is featured in the February 2010 issue of Corvette Enthusiast in the Product Showcase, and the March 2010 issue of Vette, in the Product Preview.
We continue to work on new products and hope to have more to introduce for 2010.
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We've also finalized our deal with Hardbar USA to make them our first distributor, so if he's concerned about having an established company stand behind the product I feel we've got a great one standing behind us and the product.
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With the economy the way it is and the Holidays fast approaching we've gotten a lot of feedback that people would like to take advantage but just can't right now, which I certainly understand.
So we're going to shelve the GP for now and will likely do a special early next year. Perhaps incorporating some of the ideas mentioned here. I like the first come first served idea for some number of kits.
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I would only go to a C5/C6 if it were in addition to my C4 and it would be my new track car. That way I would have a development platform for the more receent generations. Right now I keep having to use Gary's C6Z
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We have those as well!
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I actually have a stock style toe link assy that I was going to post for sale. Contact me via PM or email and we can discuss.
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Quote: BrianCunningham wrote: Because that's what I received. How can you even begin to argue that what is shown above and in the UR corner of the image below
Are even close to this CAD model?
Or do you disagree that the black spacers you show in your pic are the same as the ones in the UR corner of my pic?
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BillH wrote: Jon was right - "this one has become ludicris". You're right Bill but unfortunately I feel the need to make sure that misinformation is not allowed to spread.
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Brian, why do you post CAD models like that when you know they're not right? Below is a pic.
 On the left is the original tubular spacer, on the lower right is the original BMS tapered spacer (cut specifically for C4 trailing arm brackets) and in the upper right is the off-the-shelf spacer I sent you because I didn't have enough of the BMS tapered and that part is obsolete so I don't have any more on order. I can provide CAD models as well if necessary.
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BrianCunningham wrote: The pics are the updated units you sent me. are they the ones they everyone else got, no? but I mentioned that already. No I had run out of stock by the time you wanted some but the only difference is the thickness, those are a standard thickness as opposed to the customized length for the C4s. What's the point? You still have tapered spacers and you chose to show the tubulars in your CAD model. Quote: BrianCunningham wrote:I've show this thread to all the other engineers in the department here. They all agree the way I did it is the way to do it. Just standard practice. It's a fine practice. Especially if you're putting something in flight, or into space, or building a one off special. But if I was doing any of those things I wouldn't buy something some from a vendor that I had spent a fair amount of time and posts touting early on just to turn around slap that vendor in the face after they had done you a favor by saying that the bolts they used on their product were all wrong and that I "want it done right". Especially after all the debate here indicates that it's probably not even the weakest link in the system.
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BrianCunningham wrote: OK your missing my point entirely. What I'm concerned about is the pointy thread faces getting crushed. Threads aren't meant to take side loading like that. I grabbed some of the trailing arm bolts off the shelf and snapped this pic. One is a 1/2"-13 and the other is a 5/8"-11  Here is a blow up of the 5/8"-11 thread  Here is another with a little better contrast with the background  Where are the points? I see flats @ both the major diameter and the root diameter.
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Things like that do happen and there isn't much you can do. You can try this however: tell to keep on eye on "the other forum" because I am in the process of working a deal with an established registered vendor over there (I am not yet) to distribute the product(s). If that vendor is willing to put their name behind it perhaps that will ease his fears.
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That's because he's failing to tell you that I updated him to tapered spacers as well. So everyone who has ever come back to me and asked for tapered spacers has gotten them. Quote:
Sure, I'll just keep adding cost to the kit. Brian sure wants me too.
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