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Good for us bad for them. I see a lot of people lose their way and then focus. Lot of egos get in the way of good sound practice and judgement. I would think that if people with credability complained then there must be validity to the stated problem. So the bottom line is they never learned to listen!
Thanks for the comment about dad! Erin

It's a business. IB owns lots of sites. People get pissed off when things change. Fact is, the business model works. IB stock has gone up consistently the past 18 months.

When IB took over both sites, thirden.org and corvetteforum.com, both lost a few tech guys. But both also lots a bulk of the idiots, some of which worshipped and followed the good tech guys. They still have some strong tech folks like LD85, PeteK whom also moderates thirdgen.org, mseven, and tequilaboy.

I don't remember why Andy got banned. I know CC got banned frankly because he was baiting them. The mocking IB avatar was the 'last straw' if I recall.

You also can't piss off the owner. I don't agree with 99.9% of what Andy says tech wise, but if I spent all day calling him out what type of warm welcome should I expect on here?


-- Joe

TommyT-Bone wrote:
I don't put a lot of miles on my cars. I mainly change them because of aged oil. It's only an oil change. If it makes you feel better, do it. I'd rather do too many changes than too few.

TommyT-Bone wrote:
You ask a legitimate question. They have gone as far as to cut filters in half to show filter construction. I don't believe that Fram has earned favored filter status.

TommyT-Bone wrote:
You ask a legitimate question. They have gone as far as to cut filters in half to show filter construction. I don't believe that Fram has earned favored filter status.

95vette wrote:
Since I don't have a C6Z06 I had to look it up.

"Car and Driver recorded a 0-60 mph time of 3.6 seconds and 1/4 mile in 11.8 seconds at 122 mph in their March 2007 comparison test."

CentralCoaster wrote:
60' is everything! Every tenth you shave off the 60' is about 2 tenths off the ET.

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Andy: I think she is very reluctant to try. The tires broke loose on her when she nailed it once last week in third gear. I tell her she breaks she pays for it.. She is so afraid she will break it and doesn't want to hurt it. Erin is a fiscally conservative penny pincher. She's not cheap but buys things to last. If she can't pay cash for it she won't buy it. Pretty neat for a 28 yr old.

Really sounds like she has her act together. She sounds a lot like my daughter and my son as well. A corvette friend broke his tires loose going into 4th gear (C5Z06) and spun out. Bad thing for him was he was at Atlanta Dragway and spun it into the wall at the track. It was his first and of course last pass at the strip. No insurance so he spent two years and a ton of money repairing it - r front and then spun and put the rear into the wall as well. Glad Erin is being carefull.

I grew up poor!(alcoholic parents) Had to work hard for everything I got. Erin has it made but she had to work and appreciate what hard work and responsibility she has to her self to succeed. Andy this kid has her stuff together like your children! I see so many spoiled kids that dad gives them vettes or porsches do they really appreciate the car. Hell no they don't! First thing they want to do is drop money into the car they don't have. Or worse yet they have a family and forget their responsibilities to their family and buy shit for their car. Sorry Andy beginning to rant.

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zoe6 wrote:
Bill when I had te vette out I felt the "set" is that the relationship of speed and the position of car and the corner(apex) and the power to overcome any understeer? Does that sound right?

Actually that term is what happens on corner entry after initial turn in. The suspension loads the outboard side of the car and the car rolls to that side somewhat, that side of the car moves down while the suspension (a-arms) move up. When it stops moving (rolling) that's the chassis taking a set. Feeling when this happens makes it easier to know when you can apply the power. It's a relatively simple thing and most drivers have never thought about it. Most get it and start to feel it when it's explained. Just one of the little things that reduce lap times. Thinking about usually reduces the amount of coasting that newer drivers do in the corners.
It is also part of "Slow in, Fast out" concept.

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Tommy: Erin is talking about BiilH,SpectatorRacing,and the whole group and road racing. I think later on today she's going to e-mail Jon regarding learning how to drive on a course. OMG what have I created! She would probably pretty good at it. Competitve and energentic. At 27 there is no stopping her.

I try to bust tommy's chops in every other post.

I spent 3 hours on track yesterday in a C5 Z06 with a guy who had just bought it the day before, had no clue about track driving. He was fast by the end of the day.

Erin would do good, she knows more about cars than 90% of my students. If i explained how the chassis takes a set in a corner, she'd understand. Most of my students would just look at me with their mouth open.

bogus wrote:
I haven't met your Dad in person... but I have always suspected he is best the man covering your back in that dark alley, versus the opposite. That absolute confidence in knowing he won't go anywhere before taking care of the hostile.

The problem with CF was that they were bought out by a corporate entity. That meant their owner and admin left, and the men he had running the show already, were now poised to do the same thing without any guidance. They lost their check and balance.

I was one of four that was banned that day - CentralCoaster and JeffVette two of the others; at the same time, a 4th was banned, but he has moved on to building vintage hot rods.

The bottom line? They were more concerned with us complaining than with the content we were generating. If I complained at a rate of 10 messages per 100, that is a lot. But to them, the 3 or 4 challenges to their authority was more than they could tolerate.

So they banned us and absolutely gutted the C4 Tech area of its brain trust.