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BrianCunningham [Video]BluRay HDMI input and aspect ratio
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I plugged my BluRay played into my HDTV using an HDMI connector.

but when I play videos they don't take up the full screen

It's reduced with a black border all the way around in.
Like it's both letterboxing and pillarboxing the signal.
The only way to get it to fill the screen is to zoom the picture on the TV
Which kind of defeats having high def.

It's set to the 16:9 ratio for output.
And the TV says it's getting a 1080p input.

Are BluRay disks 4:3 format like DVD's
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No Brian Blue Ray are not 4:3. They do come in a different
aspect ratios though. You need to match your TV's native resolution to your computers. Your TV manual should have this spec.

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Jesus Christ, sorry Brian I was just talking to someone about hooking his computer to the TV and for some reason I just continued on with you. Man this is going to be a long day

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BrianCunningham Re: [Video]BluRay HDMI input and aspect ratio
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LOL that's OK

BTW I've hooked up HDTV's to computers before, it comes out real neat looking.
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CentralCoaster Re: [Video]BluRay HDMI input and aspect ratio
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You should be able to adjust the bluray output ratio (or TV input), sounds like it's trying to output a 4:3 signal and adding bars above and below, and then the TV is turning that back into 16:9 and adding bars on the sides.
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BrianCunningham wrote:
I plugged my BluRay played into my HDTV using an HDMI connector.

but when I play videos they don't take up the full screen

It's reduced with a black border all the way around in.
Like it's both letterboxing and pillarboxing the signal.
The only way to get it to fill the screen is to zoom the picture on the TV
Which kind of defeats having high def.

It's set to the 16:9 ratio for output.
And the TV says it's getting a 1080p input.

Are BluRay disks 4:3 format like DVD's


Make sure the TV aspect ratio is set on 16:9. On my HDTV I have a button to switch back and forth on the remote. Just setting it on the Blu-Ray won't change it on the tv necessarily.

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BrianCunningham Re: [Video]BluRay HDMI input and aspect ratio
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OK I figured out the HDMI output on the DVR at least.

When you set it to 16:9 is squishes the wide format into 4:3 format. I then need to hit the W_I_D_E setting on the TV which streches it back out. If you his ZOOM the menus are too big to read. It other words it's 1080p, but just the # of lines are correct, not the width.

Which kinds makes sense but the quality is actually better off if I just zoom it.
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If its full HD, it will be 1920x1080, the i and p only mean the scan type being progressive or interlaced.

Id think any HD tv worth a damn would have an auto mode these days that would select the correct ratio and resolution to use the full screen based on the input information.

Cant beat CRT projection for versatility in these type of respects, they may be rather bit, but the will do any resolution they are capable of dot correct. Mine is only an 8 inch projector, so its not top end, but it will display 1920x1080p as well as any wide screen res up to that perfectly well, and if the signal is 4:3, itll display that from 480i right up to 1600x1200p and anything in between. No LCD, DLP, LED, or plasma can acurately display any more than one wide screen res, and one 4:3 res, cause the pixels are permently fixed. They display them ofcourse, but they use software interpolation to do it, or they use a reduced portion of the dots to make up pixel perfect resolutions ( such as when you see that boarder all the way around )
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If its full HD, it will be 1920x1080, the i and p only mean the scan type being progressive or interlaced.


No, there is no established standard for HD.

720p, 1080i, 1080p are all different and have different data rates.

720p means 720 lines load every 1/60th of a second.
1080i means 540 lines load every 1/120th of a second, alternating like the tube TVs you're used to.
1080p has the highest data rate, it loads all 1080 lines every 1/60th.

Or you can go to the 120hz TVs, they refresh twice as fast supposedly.

But yeah, you really want to match up the input resolution with the TV resolution. Anything different will cause pixel interpolation and blur the image. If you are shrinking or stretching anything, you're losing quality.

A 1080p TV interpolating pixels will look worse than any CRT. And they look hideous on analog signals.
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What brand is the TV? Some of them are just plain garbage.
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If its full HD, it will be 1920x1080, the i and p only mean the scan type being progressive or interlaced.


No, there is no established standard for HD.

720p, 1080i, 1080p are all different and have different data rates.

720p means 720 lines load every 1/60th of a second.
1080i means 540 lines load every 1/120th of a second, alternating like the tube TVs you're used to.
1080p has the highest data rate, it loads all 1080 lines every 1/60th.

Or you can go to the 120hz TVs, they refresh twice as fast supposedly.

But yeah, you really want to match up the input resolution with the TV resolution. Anything different will cause pixel interpolation and blur the image. If you are shrinking or stretching anything, you're losing quality.

A 1080p TV interpolating pixels will look worse than any CRT. And they look hideous on analog signals.

Yeah i know all the signal names, dont know about over there, by what youve said i gather they dont name the same as we do here, cause here, if its "FULL HD" its 1920x1080p and thats it, HD can be 1080i, 720p or 720i. SD is 576i over here.

If the CRT television is half way decent, itll do 100Hz flicker free progresive scan, direct view TVs ive owned in the past had that except the first one i got. I dont own a TV as such, but my CRTs are both 3 tube projectors. One of them is a video grade set, so its only good for 480i and 576i, but the NEC is capable of WAY more, and at 1600x1200 there is no flicker, and no flicker at 1080p, not even any flicker at 1080i if i set it to 72Hz or more. Basically, itll do any res you throw at it with no flicker, cause its got enough bandwidth that the scan rate is fast enough not to notice flicker.

If i had the chance, i would grab a Barco Reality 909 in a flash. By the time any digital gets to the standard of that CRT monster ill be too old to see it.


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What brand is the TV? Some of them are just plain garbage.

Dead right there mate, seems most TVs these days will do alot, but dont do any of it real well. Seems in that case, the best set to buy is the one with the longest warranty....
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