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| pappyfreebird | taking vet to tech school | ||
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wrenches.they say my fan prolem is in the high pressure side of air con. dont ask me what they mean..but she does still have the sensor in the comp. and not in high line as they were recalled to do..again just what there instructor toll me ...so the verdict in a few weeks...have checked wires and none seem grounded...winter here so not driving it,,,times i have she runs good and temps stay 195 210 guessing she had a 195 stat and thats fan running all time and cold out...but air comp wont come on ..and they will do the work free labor i pay parts... i figure why not
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| CentralCoaster | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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There's two plugs on the a/c high pressure line, about 12" away from the evap coil (the one enclosed in plastic by the firewall).
The big one is your high pressure switch, it opens at high pressure, and if disconnected, will make the fan run. Pull it out and stick a jumper wire in them, see if it shuts the fan off. The smaller one next to it is a high pressure cutout for the a/c. This will shut off the compressor, but doesn't effect the fan. Then there's a 3rd plug, right at the evap, that is used to control the compressor during normal operation. I feel like I've typed all this before. |
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| C4DERF | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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CentralCoaster do you have this in a write-up with photos? If you do would you post it here please?
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| MK 82 | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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I don't have a clue as to what he asked!
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| pappyfreebird | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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i didnt ask a ? drop t ... i was giving a pappy style update on what im doin about the fan running...but cc just added a new twist i might hafta check out before i let the auto class have it...thanks cc ..also i feel as c4d pix be great...middle of winter so she sits coverd ...i havent don much to it,,toooo cold...
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| CFI-EFI | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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It isn't easy to tell if there was a question in that mess or not. What is it that was recalled? The 1984 for fan problems? CentralCoaster has the right information for the wrong car. The A/C switch CC speaks of informs the ECM in later cars that the A/C is on. Then the ECM turns on the fan. In the 1984, the ECM plays NO part in the fan operation. The 1984 fan works in a similar manner as the aux fan on the 1985 through 1989 cars. I have already posted the cause and the cure for this fan that won't shut off.
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| pappyfreebird | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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well please cfi ...post the answer again! cause if i had the answer ..i wouldnt have a problem with it...thank you pappy
ps read somewhere that 84 had a recall on the fan switch in the compressor...the recall relocted the switch to the high pressure line...mine must have slipped thru because the only swtich in high line side is right in the compressor...thats why having the ac boys look at her ...they kin take the compressor aprat if need be..(am told has to come apart to replace that switch) just repeating stuff been told ...if i knew fer sure i wouldnt be askin id be fixing...the sensor between 6n8 is fine n the relays fine and cant find a grouned wire... only other fan switch is the one in compressor...which i cant take apart... so if see an error in my ways (besides my speelin) anybody feel free to fill me in...like said i aint spent alot of time its to cold...but have checked out all your ideas offerd n they been preciated |
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| CentralCoaster | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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It isn't easy to tell if there was a question in that mess or not. What is it that was recalled? The 1984 for fan problems? CentralCoaster has the right information for the wrong car. The A/C switch CC speaks of informs the ECM in later cars that the A/C is on. Then the ECM turns on the fan. In the 1984, the ECM plays NO part in the fan operation. The 1984 fan works in a similar manner as the aux fan on the 1985 through 1989 cars. I have already posted the cause and the cure for this fan that won't shut off. Yes, you are correct. Ignore my post it doesn't apply to 84s apparently. |
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| CFI-EFI | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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well please cfi ...post the answer again! cause if i had the answer ..i wouldnt have a problem with it...thank you pappy RACE ON!!! |
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| MK 82 | Re: taking vet to tech school | ||
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Wrenches. They say my fan problem is in the high pressure side of the air conditioner. Dont ask me what they mean..but she does still have the sensor in the compressor and not in the high line as they were recalled to do. Again, this is just what their instructor told me. So, the verdict in a few weeks. I have checked the wires and none seem grounded. It is winter here so I am not driving it. The times i have she runs good and temps stay 195 to 210. I am guessing she had a 195 stat and thats why the fan is running all the time and cold out...but air comp wont come on ..and they will do the work for free labor. I pay parts... i figure why not Fixed it best I could. |
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| pappyfreebird | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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thank you drop t brutha! hey there its already done cf ... now why go and spoil all his hard work decifering my babble... i be waiting in anticiapation for the fix sir!
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| CentralCoaster | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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You have awfully high expectations of others, considering...
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| pappyfreebird | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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gimme a break huh ..ill cut my hair cause ya dont like hippys to ok! come on git off me awready
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| pappyfreebird | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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dumb time to ask , but fan wires look like stock set up...any easy way to tell if wired direct ..am still pretty certain it didnt run all the time when got it...but havent played with it much either
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| CasetheCorvetteman | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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Yeah look for an extra source connected to the fan relay, that will give it away usually.
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| pappyfreebird | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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thanks case....she seems to be the stock 4 wires (if remember right) ones hot all time and ones (green i think)hot with key on other two are nothing
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| CFI-EFI | Re: taking vet to tech school | ||
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| pappyfreebird | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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i git your point cf ...you are telling me how i must act or you wont help...ive seen your attitude and comments of superiority to others as well...not trying to give you crap either...i come from a place where we help you if we can...i dont make someone beg or change or belittle them... ive tried to be nice n thankful etc ...point if you dont want to help people dont help...dont keep telling them how they should act etc...i thought tech sites were to help people ...ones im on we enjoy bsn n helping...weather called it wrong name etc we dont belittle or puff up we simply bs n help n enjoy
and will say again for the most part i seem to get along n relate to most here...then a comment pops in against me n bang here we go again...dont help me then dude..and dont keep jumpng in and saying hey i offerd the answer..if he does it my way ill answer him again...just stay out of it then and let the ones that want to help n not critisize help!!! |
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| CFI-EFI | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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i git your point cf ...you are telling me how i must act or you wont help... RACE ON!!! |
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| pappyfreebird | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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simply dont respond to my questions cfi ... ok!!! dont read em it wont bother you ok... this is what i keep talking about who the L do you think you are...the only answer ive deciferd out of you givin me grief... is it must be the compressor switch...and and ive said im told if thats what it is ill let the tech boys do it...cuase am told ya cant replace it without taking compressor apart...anyway i dont come here to rile you or anybody and i dont expect ot be riled either... so JUST LEAVE ME OUT OF YOUR LIL WORLD OK! theres a whole row of capitals dude... hows that...now the rest of you dont need to come to his rescue or get riled up either.. i simply come to bs and learn a few tips,.thanks for understanding
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| CentralCoaster | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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pappy,
You asked CFI for help a second time, apparently after he already answered your question. I don't think CFI is butting in so much as he is responding to you addressing him (your last post for example). But you can't force people to help you. I think all you're going to get out of him at this point is criticism of your ability to communicate, so you might as well cut your losses with this thread, or I'll do it for you. I don't care whether or not CFI or you are in the wrong. But I do care that there's more people on this forum besides the two of you, and both of you should respect that. pappy, if you wish to give this topic a 2nd try with other people besides CFI, I will gladly lock this one and throw the useful posts into a new thread. |
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| CentralCoaster | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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pappy, these are probably the posts CFI was referring to.
Quote: Sounds like the fan switch on the passenger cylinder head is bad like Scooter said, or the wire from it is grounded/shorted out. Basically, unplug the fan switch, and see if the fan stops running. If it doesn't, the wire from it, to the relay, is shorted to ground. The switch is mounted between number 6 and 8 spark plugs. Quote: there is a fan switch in your pass side head try changing this to see if that works. before you do that take a look at the wiring that goes to the fan mayby someone re routed the wires so that it is on at all times. Quote: ifn da fun stps wid da ac iff wan yous unpluggin da pessu sutch dats da tubl. EDIT: 1st and 2nd posts were not CFI-EFI, just posts he agreed to in that thread. |
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| CFI-EFI | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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Sounds like the fan switch on the passenger cylinder head is bad like Scooter said, or the wire from it is grounded/shorted out. Basically, unplug the fan switch, and see if the fan stops running. If it doesn't, the wire from it, to the relay, is shorted to ground. The switch is mounted between number 6 and 8 spark plugs. Quote: there is a fan switch in your pass side head try changing this to see if that works. before you do that take a look at the wiring that goes to the fan mayby someone re routed the wires so that it is on at all times. Quote: ifn da fun stps wid da ac iff wan yous unpluggin da pessu sutch dats da tubl. RACE ON!!! |
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| pappyfreebird | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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thanks cc... i think theres good stuff there ...ive checked all those things thats why id asked what the answer is... in this post i was stating the tech school offerd to trouble shoot i said great..so was sayin thats were its going (n did today) cancel anything thats poor for the group dude ... i will post what they find...sarry fer any hassels people...but i wont bend over ...im a little lost on the help issue...i thought we were here to help...not if you do what i say ill help,, fergit it ...biggest curiosity is where did you pull those answers so clearly.. hey i know bog said keep it simple for tech reasons ... i know i rattle after my question so delete the whole shebang er edit to make it useful...thanks for puttin up with me...
ps just for the record look at post,, id commented goin to tech boys...youed added somethings to look at...drop t said what question...i replied non... just sayuin where its (the car) going...then post 6 cfi pops in with ive givin the answer...thats when i said ok what is it (after drop t kindly redid my babble) just trying to make my point ...now delete the mess thats all bs n keep the tech ...thatd be my opinion on our harley boards...fact wed mostly comment on leave the guy alone if dont understand dont answer dont stir it for the rest...thanks again cc |
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| CentralCoaster | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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OK, I hear you loud and clear, now drop it already! You don't get the last word here.
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| crash | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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now-now gang everybody go to their respective time out spots and chill out :thumbright:
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| pappyfreebird | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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um dare i speak lol ... sarry cc...but did want to update after all the bs n help ...it is the aircompressor sensor as youve all helped me determine...they confirmed it too,,,so now its where it needs to be so they can recover the r12 n put in new sensor...prolly going to switch to 134 now too...thanks everyone..
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| CentralCoaster | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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Thanks for the update!
I ended up staying with R12 to keep it simple and because I had easy access to it. At the very least you need to put in a new accumulator and orifice tube. I'm not sure how they purge all the oil from the R12 system. |
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| pappyfreebird | RE:taking vet to tech school | ||
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yes accumulator was mentioned...how they flush oil n switch i dont know thats why i jumped on the offer of pay for parts labor free ...
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