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Schrade Here we go again; injector install...
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Money I'll never get back - new injectors.

(car will be listed F/S upon completion)

Timed Static Fuel Pressure leakdown video and breakdown startup...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAf6Itb0r2Q

Drain some coolant.

TB + some other hardware out of way.

A PUDDLE of gas atop #2 secondary intake.

Wicked out with a paper towel, and POOF!

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Glad you found the problem!
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Leaker caught in the act:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBMmn50pwzU

The leak STOPPED at 1:09, not increased, when I re-primed the rails. Jon FIC said cause the INJ disk rotated to seal point (like it's ALWAYS supposed to be)

How do you embed vids here Matt?

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Inside [clean] work.

Pull ignition module. Wipe heat sink paste. Bag Ig Mod. Plenum to car wash.

Car wash jet wand to EVERY orifice / port in plenum. Safety glasses, and keep yer mouth SHUT!!!

And wash off plenum before carwash...

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Very interesting video. I was able to see the leak on the screen. What did you have to remove to get access for the camera lead?

As far as embedding - when you go to youtube, hit share, and then select the embed option and paste it in:

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Had to yank plenum here Matt; INJ's are buried.

To the car wash.

No matter WHERE you stand, when you stick the wand in ONE hole, ANOTHER hole is pointed right in your mug. PTHAHHH...

Grease-free, and Shop-Vac all the holes. (local water like is Campbell's Soup - Chunky Style; drink it with a fork)

Ig Module cleaned and bagged; ready for new heat sink paste.

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Shop-Vac loose debris. Pull INJ connectors, bag connector harnesses. INJ interfaces clean + di-electric grease.

And pull INJ clips!

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real neat seeing how that goes together
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Separate the rails, prep for a gusher, rock gently (don't forget the line retainer), and removed.

Now, wait for some gas to evap, and Shop-Vac more debris.

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Just be careful of the o rings on that rail...ask me how I know
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O-Rings. Pffttt... this thing ain't scared of an O-Ring (not wile already running anyway) - ask ME how I know THAT!!!

Funny story too - was doing FINE tuning on it 2 years ago, and I misunderstood steps on other Boards; "test something, running, then pull IAC, and observe again for difference".

(he didn't insert 'shutdown', between 'running,', and 'then pull IAC'.

I know motors, but didn't know much of LT-5, so I did it, and I observed - a couple things...

I observed the IAC O-Ring get sucked into the hole, along with a big RPM INcrease.

Only a whiff of burning rubber. Gone so fast, I couldn't get to the back of the car fast enough to find out which bank of cylinders won the fight.

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Shop-Vac loose debris.

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A DREMEL??? ARE I CRAZY???

Shop-Vac loose debris.

Nylon brush on Dremel; polish the INJ rail ports.


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Santa came!!!

Here we go...............

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Clean up INJ ports:

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Smoke? Burning rubber?

Ya' gotta' take the O-Ring OUT, before polishing it.

Couldn't see too well, and started the Nylon-Brush Dremel in #2. Smoke and the smell. No wonder I couldn't get 'in the groove'...

(NO - NO VIDEO LOL)

Rest done, now to the store for more Q-Tips, port swabdown.
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Port wipedown, cont'd...

Pull tape back, Shop-Vac to ports.

LAST PIC Q-TIP IS AFTER FINAL GROOVE PASS!!!

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Some very careful work there. Who are the injectors from?
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Got them from Jon @ FIC. Really helpful. In-depth chats long ago on CF (revenue generation stuff, with him and admins there). Jon remembers.

THen they locked me out for argument with a mod - think I've told that story a few times here.

more stuff:


"Careful work"? It's closer to obsessive Matt; been called that half a dozen times. Makes it easier to sell when the time comes tho'...

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note; #8 Primary INJ Harness Connector snaps onto INJ, retainer clip flares and snaps in both sides, but it is NOT locking on...
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Leakdown test.

Cross your fingers. Cross your eyes, your teeth, your hair, toes; CROSS 'EM ALL....................

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Primed to 51, compress air in lines, slow drop to 49 after a few minutes...
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Leakdown test.

Cross your fingers. Cross your eyes, your teeth, your hair, toes; CROSS 'EM ALL....................


Luck sent
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STILL AT 45 POST 5 MINUTES (AIR DECOMPRESSING, PUMP CHECK VALVE HOLDING ??? )

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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8 MINUTES; STILL 44 PSI!
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Rails re-primed; air in rails compressed, then DE-compressed, and STILL HOLDING 46 PSI POST :30 MINUTES.

VICTORY!!!!!!!

(videos uploading for rail / INJ assembly re-wind)

She's FOR SALE $1?,???
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Re-wind on assembly...

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More assembly (rewind):

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Leakdown + 22 hours = 31 PSI; that's a GO.

Dry fit plenum good, Ig Mod emplacement good...

(and momma House Wrenn is waitin' for me to finish up, so that MY 5 little wrench-helpers won't get Shanghai'd into slave labor ( 2 days old, I think) )


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note 2; Primary MAP Sensor Mounting Bracket is binding upon twin PCV cap; shimmed ATM.......

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note 3; for initial startup, I have installed another 'ticket stopper' gasket, between TB, and Air Horn.

I determined during top end rebuild 2 years ago, that the Secondary Port Throttle butterflies leaked, preventing the 'zero'd ' idle RPM's, and all other Closed Loop op parameters matching up with OEM spec.

A fabbed gasket compensated for this (I could see NO sunlight around the SPT butterflies; none-the-less, idle vacuum pulled air).

IAC correctly adjusted, but not fast enough to hold <75 RPM swing at CL idle.

The ticket stopper held CL idle <25 RPM swing.

After confirmation of zero'd idle, it's out for OEM gasket...

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Spool up; she is running like a top.

Vid on the way...
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Thanks there Brian...

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