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Weavsvet Should I change these springs?
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Right now I have AFR 8019 springs on my 195 AFR non competition heads. I have the 8117 springs sitting here but I'm still wondering if it's even worth while to do. Steve40th said he had this issue a while back and changing springs to a lower rate helped with overall feel on the engine. But that was his engine and I'm sure mine is different than his was. I'm not doubting Steve I would just like to hear some other opinions on whether it is even worth while to do.

I'm still having split blms of 20% on average higher on bank 2 than bank 1. I've checked everything I can find to check and cannot seem to help them any. Could these springs be contributing to this spilt blm issue?

Cam 226/230.565.565 111 lsa
AFR 195 street eliminators(non comp),58cc chamber, .026 head gasket
Stock bottom end
A4 w/2800 stall
3.45 dana 44
weight 3400 lbs with me in it



Here are the spring specs:

AFR-8019
1.270 OD
seat pressure 155# @1.810
Premium Grade
coil bind 1.080
Rate 428
Max recommended lift .650


AFR-8017
1.290 OD
Seat Pressure 135# @ 1.800
Premium Grade
coil bind 1.050
rate 360
Max recommended lift .600
Posted on: 2010/8/7 13:48
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Stl94LT1 Re: Should I change these springs?
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I'm running a similar spring to your current, without any ill effects. Before these I was running 918 beehives and they didn't work well with my camshaft (224/230 605/622).

I don't see how your current springs could effect your blms?
Posted on: 2010/8/7 17:46
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Steve40th Re: Should I change these springs?
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Stl94LT1 wrote:
I'm running a similar spring to your current, without any ill effects. Before these I was running 918 beehives and they didn't work well with my camshaft (224/230 605/622).

I don't see how your current springs could effect your blms?

I thought Beehives were only good to 600? Please correct me if I am wrong. I know nitrided beehive are better, ..
Posted on: 2010/8/7 17:51
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Stl94LT1 Re: Should I change these springs?
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Steve, the beehives I was running was an early version that was rated at .625 max lift.
Posted on: 2010/8/7 18:28
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Weavsvet Re: Should I change these springs?
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One thing that bothers me about these big ass springs is my lifter preload doesn't seem to want to hold. I set it at 1/2 turn a couple of times now and after I run the car a while those rockers are sounding like a sewing machine just clicking away. Maybe that is normal I don't really know. There's a couple of them that are noticeably louder than the rest.
Posted on: 2010/8/7 18:40
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Steve40th Re: Should I change these springs?
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Steve, the beehives I was running was an early version that was rated at .625 max lift.

You had the good ones like me, very early before they were made in a foreign country, at least COMP Cams. I will buy from PAC racing if I need new ones.
Posted on: 2010/8/7 20:17
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Stl94LT1 Re: Should I change these springs?
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You had the good ones like me, very early before they were made in a foreign country, at least COMP Cams. I will buy from PAC racing if I need new ones.


Yep!
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383tpimachine Re: Should I change these springs?
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Could it be to stiff a spring for the lower lift cam?
Posted on: 2010/8/7 21:33
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pr0zac Re: Should I change these springs?
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Could it be to stiff a spring for the lower lift cam?

not true. depends on the ramp of the lobe, harmonics, pushrod diameter, valve weight..
Posted on: 2010/8/8 6:27
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Weavsvet Re: Should I change these springs?
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I've decided to leave them be for now.
Posted on: 2010/8/9 17:57
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