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istter1 Painting strip around windshield
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Is there a simple way and a type of paint to paint this strip with out masking off vehicle? It is mainly a touchup.

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nope... not really.

I did it on the windshield. Was more annoying than hard.

Take the top off, that's the best bet. Use some wide - 2" - painters tape to cover the glass, then cover the glass with paper.

Using some cleaner and a Scotch-Brite pad to clean off the goo. Then hit with some paint prep cleaner. Dry off, prime, set, color. I would use satin or semi-gloss black. Rattle cans dry very quickly, so debris isn't that much of a concern. I recommend a sunny view, it will warm the metal and allow the paint to set faster. I also used engine paint. Much stronger than regular paint.

And it is well worth doing right.
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nope... not really.

I did it on the windshield. Was more annoying than hard.

Take the top off, that's the best bet. Use some wide - 2" - painters tape to cover the glass, then cover the glass with paper.

Using some cleaner and a Scotch-Brite pad to clean off the goo. Then hit with some paint prep cleaner. Dry off, prime, set, color. I would use satin or semi-gloss black. Rattle cans dry very quickly, so debris isn't that much of a concern. I recommend a sunny view, it will warm the metal and allow the paint to set faster. I also used engine paint. Much stronger than regular paint.

And it is well worth doing right.


Thanks Andy that is the way I thought it would have to be done.

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You can't touch up satin black easily cause there's 10+ shades of satin black (and I have most of em in the shop .

I'll deviate a bit from what Andy said (but his way works too).

1. Wash the molding with a heavy concentrate of Dawn & water. This removes any wax.

2. Scotchbrite will work OK but if there's paint missing in a larger area (like a stone chip) the edges will show up when you paint. These should be "feather edged" with 600 paper done wet, light pressure on the paper.
Wash again with dawn & water.

2. Use paint prep (automotive) one wet rag followed up immediately with a dry rag.

3. You can warm up the molding in the sun but don't get it too hot or the paint will dry too fast. If it feels hot to your fingers, it's too hot.
Now, wipe off the fingerprints where you touched it with paint prep.

4. I have a boatload of "painters blue tape" in the shop, I NEVER use it for painting the edges leak like a mofo.
Walmart just started carrying 3m green automotive masking tape in the auto section, it has a crisp edge and doesn't leak.

5. The best paint is SEM Trim Black, no primer required and is very close to OEM.
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Thanks Bill. When I get back from the Beach Sunday I will give it a shot. The only thing I don't have right now is the paint. There has to be someone here in Pismo Beach that carries it.

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Thanks Bill. When I get back from the Beach Sunday I will give it a shot. The only thing I don't have right now is the paint. There has to be someone here in Pismo Beach that carries it.

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http://sem.ws/Suppliers2.asp?state=CA&p=1
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http://sem.ws/Suppliers2.asp?state=CA&p=1


Some list Bill. Two places within 10 miles of me here at the beach.

Thanks
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http://sem.ws/Catalog.asp?prod=133

Note: This stuff is very stinky. Wear a respirator if you have one.
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Or use it outside?
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Or use it outside?


I'd say even outside.
Same with their interior trim paint.

But (IMO) this is pro stuff, high quality. Maybe that's why you don't see it in the regular stores.

Note: The product web site mentions Low VOC available. Might be worth a try.
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I wonder if its even legal in SoCal... we have such tight laws about that stuff here.
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I wonder if its even legal in SoCal... we have such tight laws about that stuff here.


Well they do sell SEM in Bakersfield, no idea if it's only Lo Voc or whatever.
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Well they do sell SEM in Bakersfield, no idea if it's only Lo Voc or whatever.


Well just got home from Pismo Beach. Too late to pick up paint today. I drive by D'Angelo's paint on the way to and on the way back from work. I will see what they have. Thanks Bill & Andy for your help. I do have several masks the cartriage may be old I can replace them or weare my old grasshopper Mace mask. God don't know if they still make those.

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looks like a lovely day at the beach!
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Almost 80 degrees and light breeze. This beach dosn't suck like the one in long beach when I live there in collegs. Seal Beach wasn't bad.

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Well they do sell SEM in Bakersfield, no idea if it's only Lo Voc or whatever.


The paint isn't lo Voc
$12.26 w/tax At www.dangelospaint.com

When it warms up here I will paint . Only in the 50's all day.

Thanks guys

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Same price as the catalogs.


Remember, the most important thing to a good paint job is prep.
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BTW, I was doing prep today, 2 pieces on the 67 steering column that are very noticeable when you're in the car, the piece that holds the column to the dash and the hub that the steering wheel mounts to.

They are cast aluminum and have a few really small nicks.
Took the old paint off by soda blasting.
Sanded with 600 then Scotchbrite.
Shot some primer, sanded with 600 wet.
Shot more primer, sanded with 600 wet.
Shot a 3rd primer coat and sanded woth 1000.

If they look OK in the sun light tomorrow, I'll shoot the satin black, if not one more primer coat.
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Your right Bill it is not like painting Cotton Pickers. A big Farmer in the 70's Dutch Houtchin in Buttonwillow on Main Drain road got mad at John Deer and had me paint his 25 Cotton Pickers International Harvester Red. He wouldn't even let me wash them first.
I plan on doing this right.I have a lot of rolls of paint protection paper left over from painting my rental. I don't want to half ass this project.

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Too bad you're not closer, we could soda blast that in 10 min, well after taping it all up.
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Thanks for the offer Bill. Last time I was in Reno A friend and I stayed in a place called Pollock Pines on the California side. Dam were we drunk for 5 days straight. The girls were hott up there. His grandmother was a pot growing hippie. The rooms were free and she fed us. LOL

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I would say that masking all around is the only way and it was the way I did mine.

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Thanks Pete! Well you answered a question for me about the hood. It was just painter after the front bumper was Damaged. How long did it take for the paint to dry. It has been in the low 50 and 60 here and fog. Waiting for a warmer day before painting.


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I would wait for warmer weather. I let it seat for an hour after the third coat.
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That was my guess

thanks Pete

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Yea, at least 70* below that = runs in the paint.
Make sure the paint is warm too. If the can feels cool/cold, stick it in the sink in wamn water. Wipe the can off, give it a couple of shakes, if the can feels the same temp as your hand, it's good.

Fog on the first coat.
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Yea, at least 70* below that = runs in the paint.
Make sure the paint is warm too. If the can feels cool/cold, stick it in the sink in wamn water. Wipe the can off, give it a couple of shakes, if the can feels the same temp as your hand, it's good.

Fog on the first coat.


May reach 65 this weekend The Bakersfiels story.
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Make sure the paint is warm too. If the can feels cool/cold, stick it in the sink in wamn water. Wipe the can off, give it a couple of shakes, if the can feels the same temp as your hand, it's good.

Fog on the first coat.


May reach 65 this weekend The Bakersfiels story.


Warm up the molding in the sun, the paint in the sink, you'll be OK.

I lay parts out in front of the garage in the sun until they feel warm and shoot them when it's 50* out.

It's just paint, even runs can be sanded out.
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Thanks Bill for the confidence builder.

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Bill is right. This SoCal sun can be real warm even if the air isn't!

And Bills tips from above are excellent:

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You can't touch up satin black easily cause there's 10+ shades of satin black (and I have most of em in the shop .

I'll deviate a bit from what Andy said (but his way works too).

1. Wash the molding with a heavy concentrate of Dawn & water. This removes any wax.

2. Scotchbrite will work OK but if there's paint missing in a larger area (like a stone chip) the edges will show up when you paint. These should be "feather edged" with 600 paper done wet, light pressure on the paper.
Wash again with dawn & water.

2. Use paint prep (automotive) one wet rag followed up immediately with a dry rag.

3. You can warm up the molding in the sun but don't get it too hot or the paint will dry too fast. If it feels hot to your fingers, it's too hot.
Now, wipe off the fingerprints where you touched it with paint prep.

4. I have a boatload of "painters blue tape" in the shop, I NEVER use it for painting the edges leak like a mofo.
Walmart just started carrying 3m green automotive masking tape in the auto section, it has a crisp edge and doesn't leak.

5. The best paint is SEM Trim Black, no primer required and is very close to OEM.


I have seen PLRX's 96, and the man does GREAT work. Exceptionally detail oriented. Simply an awesome looking car!
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Hopeing it is nice enough this weekend to start on this project. Looks like it may warn up to 62 and the sun will be out.

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I applied 4 coats of paint. Came out as a nice job.

Thanks for the help guys!!

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Lookin' good, Steve.

If you got any overspray on the rear window (or anywhere else) use a clay bar.
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Thanks for the help Bill. I used an old bed sheet over the back half. No probles spotter yet. Only problem or mistake I made was I bought too much paint. Two cans. I will find a use for it. There were no leaks from the grean tape great advice.

Steve


On to the next project.
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I used an old bed sheet over the back half. No probles spotter yet. Only problem or mistake I made was I bought too much paint. Two cans. I will find a use for it. There were no leaks from the grean tape great advice.

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OH, I C.

Well, the extra can is too hard to sell because of shipping.

You can never have enough black rattle cans in the garage. I have 7 or 8 of varying shades.

You could always paint your wroght iron around the house.
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Well, the extra can is too hard to sell because of shipping.

You can never have enough black rattle cans in the garage. I have 7 or 8 of varying shades.

You could always paint your wroght iron around the house.


I think my son is going to use it to paint his bumper on the Jeep.

Well it won't be waisted. Lol

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Attention to detail. Nice work.
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When people outline the project for you Joe, it makes it a lot eaiser to accomplish.


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