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Slalom4me | Proposal: Adapt Extruded Oil-to-Air Heat Exchangers for Automotive Use | ||
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A frequent issue when tracking vehicles is that of elevated
fluid temperatures. Various styles of oil-to-air and a few oil-to-water types of exchangers are available to help shed the additional heat. Something I have not seen in use are the extruded section fluid-to-air coolers. The reduced efficiency of this style (versus tube/fin/plate styles) is offset by the possibility of choosing coolers with greater surface area and of mounting them in non-traditional locations, keeping heat load off existing coolers in traditional locations. The extruded sections are very durable and impervious to debris impact. They do not rely on airflow through tight passageways and thus are not subject to clogging. Typically the ones I am familiar with are under 1" thick, a few inches wide and deployed in varying lengths. These can be joined in series &/or in parallel to increase total cooling surface area. The shallow depth section opens up several possibilities for mounting. . |
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Posted on: 2008/8/26 17:41
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CentralCoaster | Re: Proposal: Adapt Extruded Oil-to-Air Heat Exchangers for Automotive Use | ||
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Do you have a photo of an example? This is probably something I should be familiar with.
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Posted on: 2008/8/27 1:46
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SpectatorRacing | Re: Proposal: Adapt Extruded Oil-to-Air Heat Exchangers for Automotive Use | ||
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Are the fluid passages large enough to prevent restrictions in flow, or elevated pressures?
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Posted on: 2008/8/27 20:06
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Slalom4me | Re: Proposal: Adapt Extruded Oil-to-Air Heat Exchangers for Automotive Use | ||
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The original application that prompted the thought is
liquid cooling systems for snowmobiles. A plethora of shapes of exchangers are mounted in the tunnels and under running boards of sleds. Some of the large displacement sleds have several discrete kinds of exchangers scattered around the underside. With the variety of exchangers, there are an equal number of methods of connecting coolent lines. Ideally, a suitable unit with an fittings would turn up. However, keep in mind that these are extrusions - it is does not require rocket science to cut, weld, join relatively thick sections of cast aluminum. While I would want to test to see what kind of pressure drop occured when intended for engine oil requirements, I am more than confident that flow would be adequate for transmission purposes. What I have not found is anything that gives some insight into the heat transference properties of such devices. A search brings up sources for new and recycled exchangers ranging in price from sub-$40 to plus-$100. . |
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Posted on: 2008/8/27 23:18
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CentralCoaster | Re: Proposal: Adapt Extruded Oil-to-Air Heat Exchangers for Automotive Use | ||
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If these are the ones I'm thinking of, a single pass through a solid chunk of aluminum with fins, I'd say they're almost useless. Summit does sell them.
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Posted on: 2008/8/28 0:14
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Slalom4me | Re: Proposal: Adapt Extruded Oil-to-Air Heat Exchangers for Automotive Use | ||
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No, these are different. Sleds are rated for upwards of 100-120 HP - in several situations they are called upon to make it and this produces heat that has to be dispersed. Three examples of the many configurations . . |
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Posted on: 2008/8/28 3:59
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Aardwolf | Re: Proposal: Adapt Extruded Oil-to-Air Heat Exchangers for Automotive Use | ||
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The top picture reminds me of the coolers on a liquid cooled snowmobile. They are very durable!
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Posted on: 2008/8/28 16:09
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SpectatorRacing | Re: Proposal: Adapt Extruded Oil-to-Air Heat Exchangers for Automotive Use | ||
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Any pictures of a cross section?
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Posted on: 2008/8/29 14:18
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Slalom4me | Re: Proposal: Adapt Extruded Oil-to-Air Heat Exchangers for Automotive Use | ||
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This is the best I can do for the moment. I believe the extrusions for snowmobiles typically have one or more internal ribs, creating two or more longitudinal passage ways for fluid flow. It is curious to see how little information is returned using search terms that come to mind for locating primary vendors of the material. . |
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Posted on: 2008/8/30 18:36
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