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RE:Oil Pressure Sensor fittings
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For those who may not be familiar with the components under discussion.
A picture of the manifold for the sensor and switch on Calderone's '87

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Do Pistons Run Cooler w/ H-beam Rods
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Although more customarily known for their strength and greater weight
(compared to an I-beam), does anyone know of any discussion about
the ability of H-beam rods to lower piston temperatures?

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RE:new porter-cable 7424 and a quick question
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I urge you to look at the ingredients on the container of paint cleaner, get
an MSDS sheet from the vendor and perhaps do a cursory search on-line.

If safety precautions such as ventilation and protective gear are recommended,
it is in your best interests (and those of your loved ones) to follow the
recommendations.

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RE:Oil Pressure Sensor fittings
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I believe your year has a separate sensor and switch and that these were
originally mounted in a 'log' or manifold-style adapter that is no longer
available. Would using a hose and a tee to relocate the switch/sensor
address your issue?

My '89 has a single unit that combines both sensor & switch functions.
However, for convenience in adding a second sensor for the purpose of
datalogging oil pressure to my G2X, I relocated the OEM sensor/switch
from the back of the block to the firewall above the booster.

This gave me lots of room to use a female Tee to install the OEM and
G2X sensors. The tee is attached to braided hose that runs to the port on
the block. The hose run is short enough that the OEM sensor wires
do not need to be modified to reach the terminals in their new location.
I have not 'shaved' other OEM stuff from the firewall so the repositioning
does not change the visual clutter of the OEM look much, if at all.

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RE:The HD vs Blu-Ray battle is over
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Seems there were a lot of factors, mostly though the fact that the major
movie studios will only release their movies on Blu-ray.

I wonder who was behind that????

It is just a wild guess, but my money is on smiling Jack Valenti and the
the legacy he left behind.

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Interview: Jack Valenti

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RE:British Columbia Enacts First Carbon Tax Legislation in NA
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Sorry, DaleD. I didn't realize you had posted a response already as I
was writing earlier. I've had a chance to read the post and the links.

Is the first link saying that the ice has fully recovered to traditional levels
or is it saying that the amount of ice that froze in a period of ten days in
October is a record for a ten day period? It looks like the latter to me.

Here is the NASA report cited in the second link identifying winds resulting
from unusual atmospheric conditions as the primary factor in a 23%
reduction in year-round sea ice cover during the past two winters.

NASA Examines Arctic Sea Ice Changes Leading to Record Low In 2007
(NASA - 10.01.07)


NASA makes no mention of greenhouse gas emissions as a contributing
factor. (But note that they distinguish between seasonal and perennial
ice, seasonal ice melts in the summer, perennial ice doesn't.)

While looking at the NASA site, I came across a recent report about
the effect of rising air temperature on ice loss in Greenland.

Greenland's Rising Air Temperatures Drive Ice Loss at Surface and Beyond
(NASA - 02.20.08)


Also, I found a link to information about the Carbon Tax the city of
Boulder, CO instituted back in 2006. Clearly the reports about BC being
the 'first' jurisdiction in NA are inaccurate.

Nov. 8, 2006 - Boulder voters pass first energy tax in the nation

The point of the thread wasn't to fan anti-environmentalist sentiment.
Rather it was to draw notice to legislation that is likely to spread to
more jurisdictions. Whether we believe that Climate Change is real and
something that there is a hope of moderating or whether we believe it is
a fraud perpetrated on a willing &/or gulible constituency, the movement
has legs and it is leading to decisions that impact us now and in the
foreseeable future.

The subject has my attention and I am educating myself. Sifting reality
and figuring out the agendas is part of the process. While I doubt that
I can be in the driver's seat, I'd rather be on the bus than under it.
View points like DaleD's and CentralCoaster's add perspective to the
view points of other sources.

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RE:British Columbia Enacts First Carbon Tax Legislation in NA
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JrRifleCoach, protestors don't need to go to China or India.
Alberta is closer.

As of 2004, neither China nor India were said to rank within
the top fourty CO2 emitters on a per capita basis. On the other
hand, we in Canada ranked third by the same measure. As of
2006 my province (Alberta) was the principal CDN contributor,
generating 41% more tonnes of CO2 equivalent than #2 (Ontario.)

As tar sands production really begins to ramp up in coming years,
Alberta's greenhouse gas output is going to rise significantly.
The process requires large amounts of energy and water, electricity
in AB is largely produced by coal-fired generators.

The recently announced plan here in Alberta is to invest heavily
in carbon sequestration, collecting CO2 and pumping it back
underground. It is not really a proven technology over the long term.
Apparently as of 2007 there were three projects operating world-wide
on a scale that could be considered larger than pilot (ie: test)
operations.

As for news from the media. I feel their contribution is useful for
bringing topics to my attention but I watch for any sources that are cited
and then look there to verify the information presented by the media.

CentralCoaster. If the ice cap has shrunk significantly in the
last 5 yrs after being stable for long periods before, this seems
to support the claims that something unusual is happening.

Back to the earlier question to DaleD - do you have links supporting
the claim that the Arctic ice has recovered?

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RE:Tubing or real thick washers
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I agree with BillH about conventional thin-wall tubing not likely being
satisfactory for compression loads.

With as little as a hand drill, hacksaw, file and emery cloth, a spacer
can be fabricated from solid material.

Alternatively, look under the hoods of other vehicles for OEM accessory
bracket spacers that have the correct ID/OD and which are at least as
long or longer than you require. If necessary, cut/grind/file to length.

Earlier cars with V-belt systems typically have one or more spacers.

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RE:350 L-98 block questions
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Engine had broken piston top, bent rod and some serious damage
to one cylinder head.

Is there anything I should especially look out for before starting to
put money into this block?

Errr, maybe look for cracks in the vicinity of the cylinder associated with
the broken piston, bent rod and seriously damaged chamber?

Pressure testing is one method. I am unsure whether there is any reason
why it is not possible to Magnaflux the block - if not, this would be on my
list, too. Examine the webs of the main bearing saddles and cam
journals, as well as around the cylinder(s).

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RE:British Columbia Enacts First Carbon Tax Legislation in NA
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Interesting remarks you make about the Arctic (& Antarctic) ice recovery.
Can you provide links to substantiate? The following report from the NYT
seems to contradict you

The New York Times
Scientists Report Severe Retreat of Arctic Ice
By ANDREW C. REVKIN September 21, 2007


FAIRBANKS, Alaska, Sept. 20 — The cap of floating sea ice on the Arctic
Ocean, which retreats under summer’s warmth, this year shrank more than
one million square miles — or six Californias — below the average
minimum area reached in recent decades, scientists reported Thursday.

While satellite tracking of polar sea ice has been done only since 1979,
several ice experts who have studied Russian and Alaskan records going
back many decades said the ice retreat this year was probably unmatched
in the 20th century, including during a warm period in the 1930s. “I do not
think that there was anything like we observe today” in the 1930s or
1940s, said Igor Polyakov, an ice expert at the University of Alaska,
Fairbanks.

The ice retreat has been particularly striking this year. The Alaskan side of
the Arctic Ocean has stretches of thousands of square miles of open
water; the fabled Northwest Passage through the islands of northern
Canada was free of ice for weeks; and the sea route between the Atlantic
and Pacific Oceans north of Russia was nearly clear a week ago, with one
small clot of ice around a group of Siberian islands.



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A group of Russian scientists are predicting and preparing for global cooling.

Remember the 2004 movie with Dennis Quaid, "The Day After Tomorrow"?

What the Russians are probably doing is readying contingency plans in
case the Great Ocean Conveyer Belt slows further or shuts down completely.

From:
National Oceanography Centre, Southampton,
The Atlantic heat conveyor


"The Atlantic is the only ocean where heat is transported north across the
equator. Here warm surface water from the tropics reaches further north
than in anywhere else. The relatively warm, salty water of the Gulf Stream
system remains at the ocean surface west of Svalbard to a latitude of
about 80 degrees before it dips underneath the much fresher and less
dense polar water. The heat released by this warm water makes the
climate in regions bordering the eastern North Atlantic warmer than at
similar latitudes elsewhere. The results of this warm flow can also be seen
in the extent of Arctic Sea ice, which differs markedly from that in the
Pacific region of the Arctic. The effect of this Atlantic heat conveyor is most
noticeable in winter.

... Should the surface water freshen for some reasons, it would have to cool
further before it can sink. Sufficient freshwater input might reduce salinity
to the extent that the surface water could not possibly sink, even at sub-
zero temperatures.

Paradoxically global warming could create precisely this effect. Increased
rainfall, melting of sea ice, glaciers and the Greenland ice sheet are all
possible consequences of higher temperatures, and could reduce North
Atlantic surface salinity sufficiently to slow down or even stop the formation
of deep water. If this happens, the THC may shut down. Once stopped,
the heat conveyor may take time to recover, and the consequences would
be a cooling of northwest Europe."


Here is one of several YouTube polar ice cap animations.

2007 Polar Ice Cap Retreat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onWoah881JQ

This one is said to be: "created from daily sea ice concentration data from
the National Snow and Ice Data Center, illustrating the shrinkage of the
polar ice cap to a record extent in September 2007."

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RE:What tool did you use to prime your LT1 oil pump?
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The Moroso #62200 will prime the pump and distribute oil through most
of the system. It is just that, without a collar shaped like a stub or dist
housing to seal the opening and thus complete the pass side gallery,
there is less pressure buildup possible and the pass bank of lifters is not
fully charged with oil.

With lifters lubricated during assembly, the absence of a collar may not be
a big deal - the pass side will purge in moments upon startup. But, if
time is not a factor, exchanging for another model with the collar will
ensure all points are pressurized by prelubing.

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RE:What tool did you use to prime your LT1 oil pump?
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biggrizzly, the shaft you provided a link to is the shaft that transmits
motion from the stub shaft or distributor to the pump. It has a collar
at one end and a female tang at the other - it is not what you want.

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They make a tool for priming Gen 1 SBCs. I am unaware of anyone
who makes such a tool for the LT1-hence my original answer.


Actually, if the LTx intake is removed, along with the stub shaft that is
used to drive the pump from the dist gear on the rear of the cam, then
a large flat blade screwdriver can be turned by hand to prime an SBC oil
pump. With enough wrist action, oil will flow to the galleries and bearing
faces.

The catch about using a screwdriver or one of the aftermarket shafts that
do not include collars is that no oil will be pressurized through the
passenger side lifter gallery - normally the lower portion of the LT1 stub
shaft or the bottom end of a Gen 1 conventional dist housing seals the
hole in the valley that receives the dist housing. This vertical hole
intersects with the pass side lifter gallery.

The collars on the better pump priming tools act to seal the leak at this
point. A cord or cordless drill with some power will spin the pump and
you should expect to see good pressure displayed on the dash gauge.

ARP #130-8802

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RE:British Columbia Enacts First Carbon Tax Legislation in NA
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Suck it up. This is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg.

Many signs point to increasing rates of change in areas that affect
motorsports enthusiasts.

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B.C. budget creates a carbon tax
DIRK MEISSNER Canadian Press
February 19, 2008

Story Link

"The carbon tax , effective July 1, will be phased in over five years to
give consumers and businesses time to adjust to the new tax and
understand there is a cost associated with generating harmful greenhouse
gases, she said.

The carbon tax will start at a rate based on $10 per tonne of carbon
emissions and rise $5 a year to $30 per tonne by 2012, Ms. Taylor said.
The tax works out to an extra 2.4 cents on a litre of gasoline, rising to
7.24 cents per litre of gasoline by 2012."


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RE:Hydrogen again
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That's probably 200 liters per day, which is probably not enough for a family of four,
Perhaps not hot water enough for a family in North America, but plenty
for folks in many other regions.

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I can't believe they're drinking the water coming out of there, won't it have
impurities in it or organic growth?
I do not know.

In theory, there aren't impurities because only H and O join together. As
long as long as the chamber and outflow plumbing is sterile, H2O alone
is what results from the Fuel Cell process.

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Re: which diff ratio to buy please ??
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just need some advise please.
my car is a 6 speed with dana 44 with 3.45 ratio currently.
im hoping to gain about 500 rwhp for this engine combo im building up.
so ok which ratrio do i go with: 3.73,3.90 or 4.10 ratio please ?


My vote is to stay with the OEM 3.45:1 until the rest of the drivetrain is
built and has some time on it.

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RE:Hydrogen again
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Slalom, can you post a source for the info that I can try and interpret?
I couldn't find any specs on the Toshiba online.

This is the best I can find now

"The 200 liters of hot water and 700W power output are ideal for a family
of four. We have noticed the cost savings in the eight months since
installation. We look forward to having a low-cost, reliable fuel cell."


From "Fuel Cells: Compact Home Power Plant"

FWIW, here is some data about the Honda FCX Clairity, a fuel cell powered
sedan discussed in the Mar, '08 issue of C&D.

FC output: 100 kW
e-Motor: 134 hp 189 lb/ft
Curb wgt: 3,600 lbs
Fuel cap: 5.3 kg (in 45 gal tank)
Range: 270 mi
EPA City/Hghwy: 49/46 m/kg

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RE:Hydrogen again
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Thanks for the correction.

I do not know how to interpret the 700 W and 52.8 gal (200 L) outputs
cited for the Toshiba fuel cell in a way that is meaningful in so far as
determining how much water would be expelled from an FC-powered
vehicle.

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Then you misunderstood. A watt is a rate of power generation. The
water produced by 700 watts would have to be written in gallons per hour,
gallons per day, or something along those lines.


Ok,
- 700 Watts - per - 52.8 gal.
- Or 75.43 gal H2O - per - kW.

According to my dictionary, an SI Watt is a unit of electrical power, not a
rate. Watts = Amps x Volts.

The non-SI unit known as a Watt-hour is a unit of energy. A thousand
Watt-hours (kW) is the amount of energy equivalent to a power of 1000
Watts running for 1 hour.

Going back to the Toshiba Fuel Cell. It seems to be that the rate is 52.8
US gal (200 L) per 700 W. Regardless of whether 700 W is produced in
a minute, an hour, a day or whatever - for 700 W, 52.8 gal is expelled by
the process.

Consider the chemical reaction (reverse electrolysis of water). In this
reaction, H combines with O, releasing H ions, creating H2O and heat.
I interpret from this that a given input of H results in a fixed output of H2O.
The output of Watts is dependent on the efficiency of the reaction and
efficiency determines the ratio of water per Watts produced but my vote
is that time is not a factor in the relationship.

Regarding efficiency of the Toshiba Fuel Cell. Your approximation of 30%
is in the zone. The Toshiba FC is cited as having improved to 38% in
2004 from 28% in 2000. 38% is quite a distance from the optimum
efficiency of 83% claimed for fuel cell technology in ideal conditions, but
progress is being made.

A claim is made that real fuel cells "are still much more efficient than any
electric power plant that burns a fuel." The foundation for this is that
unlike a heat engine, the FC is not constrained by the Second Law of
Thermodynamics.

Thanks for the link to the Q&A about water produced by burning gasoline.
Darrin Wagner's response advises to consider the effect of incomplete
combustion and the lessening of H2O as a result of the by-products,
CO in particular.

94z07 - While the fuel cell's only by-products are water and heat, auto
exhaust has the following in various ratios. From Wagner's comments,
these all contribute to reducing the amount of water generated by an
internal combustion engine.

- Carbon monoxide CO
- Nitrogen dioxide NO2
- Nitrogen monoxide NO
- Sulfur dioxide SO2
- Suspended particles
- Benzene C6H6
- Formaldehyde COH2
- Polycyclic hydrocarbons

Thanks to everyone who is contributing toward helping me understand
whether there really is any issue regarding substantially more water being
output from a hydrogen fuel cell-powered vehicle in winter driving conditions,
compared to a conventional IC engine.

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At this time, I do not have a sense of the volume of water that would be
produced to move a 2,400 lb fuel cell vehicle at 30 MPH.

(Slalom4me produces a paper napkin)

One thousand Watts (1 kW) is roughly equivalent to 1.34 horsepower.

Arbitrarily suppose that a 2,400 lb vehicle requires 20 road horse power
to travel at 30 MPH.

Arbitrarily suppose 15% drivetrain losses, thus 20 RHP becomes 23.5
motor HP.

23.5 MHP / 1.34 HP per kW = 17.54 kW

So, is 17.54 kW or 17,540 Watts at a 30 MPH cruise reasonable for a
small efficient car?

In the earlier post I wrote that it seems the Toshiba stationary FC expels
53 gal while producing 700 W.

There has to be something wrong with the information or the reasoning.
I can't imagine that an FC-equipped vehicle is going to be expelling
1,330 gals of water while producing 23.5 HP/hr.

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RE:Hydrogen again
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Gasoline powered cars also produce water and in the right weather conditions
it will stream out of the exhaust and puddle too. Has this been a problem
for those in northern climes already? If not, I don't think it will be any new
problem with hydrogen power. Anytime any organic compound is burned, CO2 and water will be byproducts.

I believe it is a matter of the proportion of water given off by the different
processes.

In a fuel cell, electricity is generated by passing hydrogen through the
anodic side of a polymer electrolyte membrane (PEM). Oxygen is passed
through the cathodic side. H ions are stripped off through an electrolyte
between the anode/cathode. By-products of this chemical reaction are
heat and water.

How much water?

"Combining a mole of hydrogen gas and a half-mole of oxygen gas from
their normal diatomic forms produces a mole of water."

From the above, it seems to me that a vehicle powered by a fuel cell will
expel a quantity of water that is equal to the quantity of hydrogen
consumed.

At this time, I do not have a sense of the volume of water that would be
produced to move a 2,400 lb fuel cell vehicle at 30 MPH. However, my
vote is that it would be greater than the volume of water produced by a
gasoline-powered internal combustion engine under the same conditions.

FWIW. If I understand correctly, a stationary fuel cell manufactured by
Toshiba for residential use expels 52.8 US gal (200 L) of water in the
process of generating 700 W of electricity.

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Actually, it is the water vapor by-product of combustion and fuel cell
operation that I had in mind.

BMW's H-powered 7-Series deposits a noticable puddle at the rear while
idling. I just picture such vehicles behaving like Zambonis during the
winter months, paving the roads with fresh ice as each car passes by.

Is there any solution to this besides containment - capturing the water
and draining at intervals?

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The primary problem is that to refill the tanks takes forever. You can fill
your gas tank in a matter of minutes, devices such as this, and electric
cars, require HOURS to regenerate.

You'd need two sets of tanks, one charging and one in the car.

This portends a return to full-service filling stations with 'pump jockeys'
hired to facilitate tank switchovers.

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Joy appears to be a trim, well rounded member of her generation.


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There's Joy in Customer Service

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My vote is that Hydrogen-powered vehicles will have a fundamental
characteristic that will present a sizable obstacle to their adoption for
full-time use in most of Canada, a good portion of the US and a good
portion of Europe.

Care to guess?

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RE:How wide is your vision?
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NUCLEAR POWER

That's all I saw.

Well, the quoted passage in the initial post ends with

"People with tunnel vision prepared to take action, with no thought about
the consequences of their actions, an example:"


and a link to sixteen examples including

"16. The chemical manufacturer that blends chlorine with his cleaning
chemical or coating so that it will act as an antiseptic in the event the
customer has an open cut on his hands. He does not realize that the
chlorine he added will cause problems with the stainless steel that the
worker is cleaning or coating. Chloride stress corrosion problems are very
common in the process industry."


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Interesting to see the direction this thread has taken.

Although the example happens to involve an anecdote about nuclear
power, nuclear power is not central to the point that is made.
"How wide is your vision?" is about how much of the big picture
do we see.

I posted it after searching out supporting material for some comments
here. Turns out the comments were insupportable - something I haven't
been called on yet but which I still need to address.

Til then, the post at the top is my hair shirt.

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RE:Cool video inside a combustion chamber
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I can't find engine video of GM's DOHC 3.6L V6 with Direct Injection and
Variable Valve Timing (VVT) that is in the '08 Cadillac STS/CTS now and
slated for deployment in the '09 Chevy Transverse. Nor any video of their
Denali XT Hybrid with the Direct Injected, VVT, E85-capable, dual-mode
Hybrid.

There are a few YouTube animations of FORD's EcoBoost technology,
their variation on DOHC Direct Injection. If interested, search them out
on your own.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjx6IPDIy2Y

Compare the flame propagation shown in the spark-ignited gasoline-fueled
example above with that of the direct-injected, diesel-fueled example below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IFCubco95w

Direct injection is being used increasingly for new spark/gas engine designs.
Here's a view of BMW's N54 TT 3.0 DI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHqrP18GCL4

Here's an animated look at three different shapes for chambers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3D_duexMPY

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Pomona: John Force Racing final report 2008.02.10 (Click for link)
by Motorsports.com

"JOHN FORCE, 58, Castrol High Mileage Ford Mustang
Qualifying position and performance: 5th at 4.823 seconds, 321.58 mph.

Race results: Beat Tony Pedregon, Gary Scelzi. Lost to Robert Hight

Notable: Reached semi-finals in first race back in competition after
devastating crash last September...by reaching semi-finals Force became
the first driver to win 100 rounds at Auto Club Raceway at Pomona...now
only six wins away from 1,000 competitive round wins in NHRA POWERade
Drag Racing Series...defeated two former POWERade Funny Car
champions en-route to semi-finals (Tony Pedregon and Gary Scelzi)"


ESPN Video: John Force Returns at Pomona

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Thank you for posting. I was wondering yesterday how his recovery is
progressing. That was a horrific incident in Dallas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4zjhvXDkeg

In the 'It's a small world' department - I do not personally know Bernie
Fedderly, co-Crew Chief for JFR, but his sister and brother in-law are
friends. The biography about Mr. Fedderly on JohnForceRacing mentions
Bernie and Terry Capp winning the US Nationals in 1980, one of their prizes
was the newly released Suzuki GS1100 sport bike - I bought this bike unused
from Terry Capp in the spring of 1981.

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The tubing I got is expensive as hell. It was $120 for two pieces about
4.5 feet each. It's hydraulic line (which will tolerate gas) it has a teflon
core wrapped in rubber with braided stainless on the outside.
A manufacturer's name, series name and part number could be helpful to others in the future.

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An exerpt from an anecdote at McNallyInstitute.com. While it is not
directly about C4s, it does speak to matters that C4 owners and forum
participants here might relate to.

How wide is your vision?

"When you fly as often as I do you sometimes find yourself sitting next
to a celebrity. Some years ago back, I had an occasion to fly with the
playwright Arthur Miller, and because of my Navy background the
conversation came around to submarines and nuclear power, when Mr.
Miller told me the following story.

He once had an occasion to fly cross country seated beside a nuclear
physicist. As they flew over the western part of the United States, Miller
noted that much of the scenery below was desert, unable to support a very
large population because of the lack of drinking water. The physicist
pointed out that some of the largest fresh water reserves on the earth
were located close by in the Rocky Mountains, but they were deep below
the ground and hard to get at. He said there was enough water below the
Rockies to sustain a population of two hundred million people with
no problem at all. He further stated that three atomic explosions carefully
placed could release this water.

Miller was impressed, but asked the nuclear physicist if the explosions
would not in fact contaminate the very water they were releasing? The
physicist thought about it for a couple of seconds and then pointed out
that contaminated water was not his field.

This is the same problem that we see through out our industry. People
with tunnel vision prepared to take action, with no thought about the
consequences of their actions, an example: ..."


For full text, click here

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Honorable Casey.

It has come to my attention that National, a territory adjacent to International
and until a recent exploratory maneuver by Southern Region, a vacant
holding, is ripe for annexation by International.

As Minister for Life of Beaches, Beer and Bikinis, I urge you to undertake
studies to determine whether this action towards National would in anyway
serve to benefit your ministry in particular and the section of International
overall.

Southern Region is four sections away and clearly has no rightful claim.

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We in International are considering annexing National for its arable land,
clean air, sub-surface minerals and air traffic routes.

It is only due to urgent matters of state (procrastination) that we did not
already stake our claim recently while National was still vacant.

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The tool to install them costs over $100. How do you remove them without
damaging them?

Knipex makes a very nice Oetiker Clamp tool, it sells for $35 to $70. Or
you can shop and find it for under $15. Lane_Pilot has been selling them
for $12-$15 on eBay.

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But the Oetiker tool is not mandatory if there is some room to work.

While they aren't as common now as they were in the past, end cutters
work fine for installing Oetiker Clamps. $5-$8 at a hardware near you.

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Did anyone mention THK, yet?

Here is info about THK's Rod Ends. Here is their Link Ball catalog

Quote=BrianCunningham
"I just wonder what temps the resin and seals can take."

From Link Ball Technical Description
Page A-939: Temperature Range

"The temperature range of the Link Ball series is basically
between -20ºC and 80ºC (-4ºF to 176ºF). If the service
temperature exceeds this range, contact THK [(see examples
of testing outside this range on pages A-930 to A-933)]"


On pages A-932 and A-933 they report on results from 280 hrs
at -30ºC and 100ºC (-22ºF and 212ºF)

"The boot did not show a crack or the like at low temperature.
The holder did not show abnormal wear and the boot did not show
thermal deterioration at high temperature."


Carroll Smith's books have a great deal of information regarding
design, fabrication and attachment of racecar bits.

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I'm almost positive that Oetiker says specifically not to reuse them.
It's not something you want to plasticly deform more than once.

Well, I'd say that, too, if I was in the hose clamp business.

In practice, I have found the Oetiker-style clamps I have worked with to
be sufficiently ductile to withstand several applications. They appear to
be made of mild steel and when sized correctly for the hose & barb, there
is relatively little deformation required to clamp or release them.

I do not recall one breaking on me as a result of fracture due to work
-hardening from reuse. I've not had a hose detach.

For a critical connection such as fuel lines, prudence may dictate single-use.
Otherwise, if you have the patience and care to remove these clamps
successfully, my vote is that you can reuse them several times with
confidence that they will continue to perform as expected.

Plastic water pipes? Law suits? Sheesh, who could have predicted that.

Corroding stainless clamps? What kind of electro-chemical reaction is
occuring that is causing 300 or 400 series "stainless" material to corrode?

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I have a Time Share that's available now. It is our off season so rates
are low, I can offer a special rate to forum members.

Casey, I thought you might be interested?

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Ya think? That is a lot of hardware to get a "single-rib 'barb'"
smaller than one produced by a half, double flare.

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Whatever floats your boat.

The reasons to prefer a hose barb over a single or double flare are two-fold.

Firstly. The direction of the lip is reversed - a barb is directed such that
it makes installation easy and removal difficult, the shape of a flare has
the opposite result when used with hose.

Secondly. On a flare, the intended sealing surface is the end of the tube
where it becomes captured between the two opposing fittings. It doesn't
matter that the outer surface upstream from the end is marred & deformed
by longitudinal marks left by the anvil portion of the tool used to grip the
tube while the die portion forms the flare. However, hose seals along this
portion of the outside of tube - imperfections become points for seepage.

But enough. CentralCoaster has his solution. If we are going to differ, let
it be over something more substantial than this.

Incidently, the little single and double 'ear' crimp-style hose clamps seen
on euro and asian cars are known as Oetiker Clamps. With proper care,
they can be reused multiple times.

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Identity papers, please.

Passport or Visa with photo id is now required. Those who intend to
drive must produce an International License.

OH, it's you Ambassador Bogus. Welcome to International.

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Hail Honorable Casey,

See how his benevolence flows. Pay tribute to him whoso overseeth the
taps that he may succour the parched among you.

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I also suspect Casey will have a fight for territory!!!!!!!

As my first official act, I create the super ministry of BBB
- Beaches, Beer and Bikinis.

To oversee this most important office, I nominate the Honorable Casey
to the position of Minister for Life. All bow before him and tremble in
hope of receiving his favour.

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I hearby declare this section property of Slalom4me

All those who challenge my might, speak now, or forever hold your peace.

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That ought to work great, if your tubing is threaded to take such a fitting.

Or if the flaring tool is used for the purpose for which it was created
- to secure a fitting on the end of a metal tube. Then the hose could be
secured onto the hose barb and the hose barb could be fastened to the
fitting on the metal tube.

Beats using the flaring tool to jury rig a make-shift single-rib 'barb' directly
on the metal tube

1pc - Hose barb to male SAE inverted double-flare.

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1pc - Union, female inverted flare

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1pc - Tube nut, male inverted double-flare

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With a hose barb to female inverted flare, the union could be eliminated.
I just didn't happen to find an example in Parker or Weatherhead's
catalogs

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Since jsup is going to be removing the fuel lines from the fuel rail anyway,
is there some reason why he can't blow back through the lines toward the
tank?

Push the residual fuel in the lines back into the tank. Once there is
nothing forward of the filler neck, the siphon/vacuum action can not
occcur.

Gentle pressure. Don't over do it and wind up disconnecting the attenuator
and/or pump from the fuel line. The fuel should flow backwards through
the pump - unless someone knows otherwise.

If you elect to proceed with disconnecting the lines at the filler neck, be
aware that the lines between the tank and the filter will still contain
whatever fuel was there before - be prepared to catch several ounces
when the filter fittings are loosened.

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Draining the tank isn't so bad with a siphon through the fuel neck feeding
into jerry cans.

But if you don't find the earlier three suggestions palatable, then a fourth
may be to open the lines where they meet the fuel rail. Then with the gas
cap removed, apply gentle air pressure to the lines to encourage any fuel
to flow to the tank.

Once the lines are clear, my vote is that it will not be possible for fuel to
siphon back into the lines without assistance from the pump to lift fuel
up the initial length of in-tank line.

Use suitable precautions when fuel leaks may occur - have known good
fire extinguishers on hand and have a competent buddy standing watch.
Be sure there is a clear path outside in case it becomes necessary to
remove the vehicle from the building.

Good luck.

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I thought that without pressure in the system, gas would not pour out.
Well, stupid me. I got a face full of gas and had to tighten it while it was
running out.

Can you, or anyone, tell me if the entire tank will drain if I take these
fitting apart? I tightened them back up till I read through the FSM to
figure it out.

Is this the gas that is in the line? Or the gas that is in the tank?


It is both. Consider how a siphon works - after you swallow two or three
mouthfuls to get it started, a siphon requires no further assistance to
maintain the flow up out of a tank as long as the outlet is lower than the
fuel level in the tank.

Some possible solutions:
- Drain the tank with a siphon
- Elevate the front of the vehicle relative to the rear
- Open the line at the top of the tank so that a partial vacuum
can not be created.

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