Well Beach Bum, when Andy finishes reading the 1900 page document I'm sure we'll all hear about it.

All I need to know is when Pelousy told the press that "we'll find out whats inside the bill after it passes", that was enough to figure it was not going to be good. And now we learn that Joe Wilson called it right when he called obambi a lair.

In a nutshell here's how it works or doesn't. The government sets up a national health care program. Then offers, oops, forces the citizens to buy the program. Yes, you can use your own private program but the plan is to reduce all the funding that those programs offer (cut Medicare and others) then redirect that money to obambicare. thus forcing the medical professionals to "accept" obambi-care. It also forces the states and employers to join as well. (Missouri already voted to not accept the bill. Others will follow) Medical costs will soar since the rate of return from government sanctioned returns will be dramatically reduced. Since the government doesn't actually make money, they have to generate additional funds through more taxes. Next step is to tax everything you spend your money on, again. And again. And this bill establishes how those taxes are to be administered/collected. But wait, there's more! Large companies like WalMart, GM and other big corps have already worked out deals with congress for amnesty from the plan. And this is where the fucking democrats worked up their secret meetings and "deals" to gather the votes to pass the bill.

So be a moderate, or whatever you want to classify yourself. Bottom line is there are two parties running congress. Jackasses and dinosaurs. Your vote is going to go, one way or the other. Left or right. Red or blue. There is no vote for moderates. Or you can just not vote like most moderates brag about.

Real moderates can watch FoxNews.... :D

Andy, Wow dude you nailed it. But you missed one important point. If you were a Moderate, you would not have voted for obambi. With all the time/energy you spend reading and researching issues and history you ignored BHO's ultra-left leanings and associations with communists and terrorists. Your liberal compass pointed you towards hope and change and that it was all Bushs fault. And that Republicans are a bunch of dinosaurs.

However a good moderate will point out all the bad points of each side and then claim not to be in favor of these points. Instead just waffle and wobble about claiming to not vote cause there is no one to vote for. Your position is firmly placed as a liberal and always will be. I know lots of lefties that favor the 2nd amendment, yet they're always wanting more socialized government programs and intervention. That my friend is liberalism!

I on the other hand am a Constitutionalist and firmly believe that our Rights should not be changed or altered. I choose take a stand against any and all comers that want to or talk about altering these rights.

A tactic of the left is to overpower your opponent with many loud voices, lies & accusations and forcing him to withdraw. You can "observe" all you want, but when you rant about what I consider sacred, you and this board know I will come out with guns blazing.

So when I come to LA next time breakfast is on me. I like talking about cars too.

Chill dude.

Not saying your saying.

Read the lines, not between them.

Not attacking, just stating.

I know its frustrating standing up to face the heat and support your president.
Just look at it this way, in one year, you can't blame it on Bush anymore.......

Well Andy the fact is that obambi care is not going to become the answer to "free health care". It will take some time for the liberal zealots to realize how they're paychecks/earnings/futures will be taxed to extinction.

If we could just save one spotted owl by destroying our own economy........

This liberal BULLSHIT has got to STOP NOW!!!!!

As to rewriting the Constitution.....
Only the little lambs following the sheep will like the outcome of that.

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Seriously..... You say "purists" like its bad.

This liberial congress has pummeled us with crap for too long.
It is time the Constitution is upheld.

Read the headline. Next is the rest of the bullshit bill...

Once the gates are open the flood will come.....

The camel's nose is under the tent.

How do you eat an Elephant? One bite at a time.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/0 ... are-idUSTRE77B4J320110812

Does not matter much as obambi care is now Officially UNCONSTITUTIONAL!

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For example, if I was visiting Europe, and got ill, I could walk into any clinic, without a bill.

Still somebody has to pay. As we watch all those other countries go into bankruptcy........

http://standwitharizona.com/blog/2011 ... s-funding-illegal-aliens/

Obama said his healthcare plan would not cover illegal aliens – twice. Wilson said “You lie!” to the outrage of many, and for which he was later censured by Pelosi & Co.

Well, it turns out Wilson was right, and we didn’t even have to wait for the full rollout of ObamaCare in 2014 to see it.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced on Tuesday that it has awarded $28.8 million to 67 community health centers with funds from the Obamacare health reform law. But as part of that sum, CNS reports that ”approximately $8.5 million will be used by 25 New Access Point awardees to target services to migrant and seasonal farm workers,” and an HHS official said:

“grant recipients will not check the immigration status of people seeking services. ‘Health centers do not, as a matter of routine practice, ask about or collect data on citizenship or other matters not related to the treatment needs of the patients seeking health services at the center,’ Further, the grant recipients are ‘required to serve all residents’ who walk through their doors”.

So say it again, Joe Wilson: Obama lied. Since “at least” 25% of these “migrant” agricultural workers are illegal aliens, according to the Pew Hispanic Center, that means it will be guaranteed that tens of thousands of illegal aliens will be covered under ObamaCare.

Packing up and heading up the hill for cooler weather, fishing and campfires.

Gotta admit, Fred and the gang were EPIC!

Community organizers getting primed for next election.

During the fifteenth century, Venice ordained that local Italian prostitutes should bare their breasts while soliciting at open windows overlooking the city’s famous canals and walkways.

The ruling was intended to separate the city’s "professional" women from the general citizens, and also to encourage young men to purchase the prostitutes’ wares and avoid the unspeakable sins of masturbation and homosexuality.

Oh! and this was just to good to not mention.....DisappointMINTS

http://radio.foxnews.com/2011/08/04/o ... nts-banned/#ixzz1U5bQ2P8x

ebay item 110724877977

Albophobia; fear of white people

http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/in ... d_22_Jul_2008_at_19:01%29

Your not even close to being done.......

Installed all the latest updates?
Flash. Adobe. ect.
Goto ninite.com and check off all the plugins and other freeware you need.
Recheck for updates.
Drink two beers.
Call me in the morning.......

JeffK, If your experiencing lots of problems and continuous bluescreen's you would be doing yourself a favor by running a fresh install.

If on the other hand the system is somewhat stable and just acts slow and stupid at times, run the upgrade. You can always rerun the full install again if your unhappy with the results.

The full install takes about 1/2 hour. Have a network cable connected to assist the install with drivers and updates. The upgrade can take 4-8 hours depending upon the amount of software that's loaded and the amount of disk errors/problem the install program finds.

Good Luck

Will a starving man turn down a peanut butter and tomato sandwich?

My customers are happy to spend $235 for the W7 upgrade.

Don't balk at 30 bucks......

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Smartest 29 bucks you'll ever spend!!

tonites lineup on Speed include;

dumbest stuff on wheels
my ride rules
the car show

With a lineup like that, I think I'll go water the grass.

email to insider@speed.com
With the exception of Wind Tunnel, you guys have surpassed VH1 in stupid shows.
I thought whips was ridiculous......
Your right down there with Jerry Springer & CSPAN now.

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And just how did they establish their credentials?
Flash a badge over the phone?
Or say "do you know how important I am?!?"

After rereading everyone's comments I think we've stumbled on the answer.
Now that america's been dumbed down, the only thing left is "dumb".

Thats why JackAss and Jerry Springer is so popular!

Can we stay at your place Ron?



FWIW 1300th post. Unofficially, I have no life.....

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Piston envy????

A profound, yet bold statement.

Tommy once again sums it up......

Why do todays "shows" include a JackAss!?!

Some over caloried, bald headed, gotieed, buffoon. And a "bling" oriented city boy that gets a nose bleed over 65MPH.....

Just like Whips and other stories about jackasses, this one will hopefully live a short life as well

Anything other than the Volt

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For you maybe.

There are still a lot of Koolaide drinkers out there......

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ANS: George Soros

Latest San Francisco crack pipe proposal:

Ban the sale of goldfish or any aquarium type fish.

Its cruelty to animals........

A local alarm company quoted me 1000 install and 21/mo.

Made it sound like the deal of the century......

He did say that ADT sells crap.

Kickin back and working in the yard.
Gonna wait until it gets real hot before laying on my back under the Vette.

Reminds me of the movie set for some of those drug deals gone bad......

Seriously. Congrats

Congrats to you two!

LOLG!

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The guy needs to throw out his supply of blue pills and give up the skanks.

One problem: Parents that can't or won't discipline their children.

Its becoming pathetic.......

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America ’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America ’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

-- Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

Yes they are a very dedicated group.

It's all about kids.

My Dad is a Shriner, and maybe someday me.

Until then, I give to the local chapter when ever I can.

But they do have a left side....

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/07/23/ ... weddings/?test=latestnews

I'm sure NY is very proud now.

LOL

The horrible right wing nut with connections to those conservative groups....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/world ... losion-live-coverage.html

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There were a bunch built as tour buses in the thirties. Saw one for Yellowstone Park. But I thought it was at the museum in Cody, WY

TB, you and yours are in our prayers.

The plan to go paperless is gaining momentum.

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FiveBucks (err starbucks) They can burnout on overpriced coffee there....

Really pretty....

So what will it be installed in?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbi ... 1704960211&type=1&theater

I took some time tonite to re-read your posts.

Thank you guys

Maybe thats not real but the CA gov signed into law the teaching of Ghey History in Calif screwls.

Now thats working towards smart students.

And they wonder why our students are ranked low on a world wide scale. We're going to be a bunch social dolts as the world passes us by.

Ok Andy. I'll bite........why?


So now we're going to give terrorists the formula for crippling any big city.

Gotta love our system.

House is full of wivey's family this weekend.

Ever notice how a group of women will all talk at once?

Wheres my bottle of Tequila? Its 5 o'clock somewhere!

Ya gotta drink to drive this.

Now is the time to start selling kool-aid at the off ramp.....