[font=Arial:1bade41f9d] [/font:1bade41f9d][size=22:1bade41f9d][color=red]The RWB has shipped out today 11/21
via USPS Priority Mail
Expect delivery in 2-3 working days
Happy Thanksgiving!
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Finally!

Price? 257.90 a pair, plus $10 shipping via USPS Priority Mail.
Just in case, here are some other prices from the web;

C4guru GP TAPERED 267.90 includes shipping
Corvette Central BALL 299.99 w/o shipping
Ecklers BALL 299.99 w/o shipping
Ecklers AC Delco BALL 575.98 w/o shipping
Rock Auto BALL 311.58 w/o shipping
Ebay TAPERED (same part) 313.76 includes shipping

The GP will be broken into blocks of 15 pairs, one pair per member for the first block. The first block will start now and end when the money is collected or the 5th of November which ever comes first. Shipment will take 2-3 weeks and I'll get'em out to you ASAP!

I expect the second block to commence after the first of the new year. Those members that listed on the original CF post have reservations to the first block. NOTE: You must be registered with C4guru and paid by November 5th. If not I will offer the reservation to the next members on the list.

OK. Why C4guru? It turns out that to run a GP at the CF you must be a Supporting Vendor. This prevents members from undercutting the other vendors pricing. Makes sense to me but we can get a much better price here and pass the savings onto the members.

Heres the list of reservations. I will update this list as each member checks in and payments are received. Please PM me or use my listed email address. I will send the payment info at that time.

Oh yeah, payments can be sent via PayPal or MO's. No checks or CC's.

I'll check in twice a day to update this info column.
If your not listed, please contact me ASAP.
ALSO Please communicate with c4guru PM or email. NOT on the CF

(Counts are pairs)

Bluewasp..........1-C------PAID 11/1
jaa1992...........1-C------PAID 10/30
GS023.............1-C------PAID 10/30
Slalom4me......1-C------PAID 10/27
Klaus-96..........1-C------PAID 10/27
VanSpeed........1-C------PAID 10/30
Zix..................1-C------Paid 11/3
1991ZR1..........1-C------Paid 11/3
tomtom72........1-C------PAID 10/28
Carl Johansson.1-C------Paid
BVVHO.............1-C------PAID 10/30
l1sikes............ 1-C------Paid 11/3
CentralCoaster..1-C------PAID 10/30
LarryK 87..........1-C------Paid 11/6
OZGS517..........1-C------Paid 11/5
_____________________ 15 pairs 1st Block

Draven.............1
Trog................1
l1sikes............ 1
waveman22......1
gear-head2.......1
Strick...............1
Bluewasp..........1
Metal-Tech........1
ittlfly...............1
ScaryFast.........1
MSR................1
CactusJim..........1
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Heres the pics of the RWB disassembled

P/N found is from the inner race package ET-CRI-0846...NTN...JAPAN








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Other links of interest
RWB Research on the CF
RWB Disassembled

Check this thread out: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1841697

What the heck are they, and why do I want one?

I've benn thinking about Elim's,but I think I am going with the Corvette Central (factory looking) Magnaflows.They have a very good price.Any one have these?what do do you think of them?

Quote:Thats the crazy thing, the guy pulled off to the side and the cop never went over there!

Is there an easy way to remove the coolent temp sensor,or does the plenum have to come off on an'87?

Another interested party.

My issue with elims on an LT1 vette is the resonance.

The C4 storage area acts like a resonance chamber... as such, it just booms around back there. I hated having elims on my 92... yuck.

I am hoping work will send me to Oz next year! Keep you posted.

sounds like you need to go after the jerk who lost his load. that's an offense and he is the cause.

screw that jerk cop.

Thank Bruthish... he set this up... I am only going to ruin it...

Casey -

Here in lies the rub... GM has been building their crate engines south of the boarder for the last several years. Mexico to be exact. I have heard nightmarish stories of metalurgical failures from these engines. At the same time, I have heard there has been improvement... there had to be.

Here in lies the other rub - I just checked both Superior Chevy and Skoggins-Dickey - NEITHER offer a GMPP LTx motor of any kind off their website. That's nuts.

Some site called www.crateenginedepot.com wants $4000 for an LT1!!!

Golan wants $4300 for their mildly tuned LT1. 360hp/402tq.

Summit doesn't even LIST a catagory for LTx crate engines... they show Gen I and then skip to Gen III... leaving me in the dust.

In short, my options are limited.

If I do the hotcam kit, it includes cam, roller rockers, springs and retainers. I know the heads aren't perfect, but gee, I won't miss the 15 hp that porting them would give, and also, I can do some mild match porting - you know, clean up the heads and intake at the junction.

I understand your concerns, Casey... But I feel the used motor isn't a concern. It's like this - if used motors were so very bad, there wouldn't be a market for them. It's that simple. Right now, Mr Mojo is driving on one... as are countless others.

I spoke to Jason today, via email. I asked three questions:

1. Did the engine ever run for you? yes the engine ran excellent when it arrived.
2. Do you have reason to believe it was thrashed? no
3. What kinda warrantee? 90 days on motors less freight

In reference to #2, I don't feel Jason would have bought it if it was thrashed... you can hear bearing issues... things like that.

It seems reasonable. If I must, I will skip the hotcam and stay stock... It isn't that important, but if I can, with the motor out, I will do the hotcam. As long as it doesn't need a full clutch kit. If I can get away with a new pilot bearing and a friction disc, I will!

At the minimum, I am going to do the following:

1. Replace all gaskets and seals
a. front timing cover seals.
b. rear main seal.
c. oil pan and oil filter housing gaskets.
d. intake manifold gaskets.
e. head gaskets.
f. valve cover gaskets.

2. If I get the hot cam kit
a. replace cam.
b. replace rockers.
c. replace valve springs.

3. Clutch
a. Test DM - if it passes, great. Clean and use. If it fails, use it to match balance to the Fidenza I already have.
b. Replace friction disc, my pressure plate has only 40k on it and should be good to go.
c. new pilot bushing/bearing.

I like this forum set up. Nice job.

Yup, I just ran into my one freind from 3 years ago and you know what he got? Oh yeah, a vette. Its a C5 but...its a start.

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I am ok, the question was whose fault it was.
Whose fault was it really or who did the cop blame? Its really the fault of someone who was 6 cars in front of me who slamed on his brakes cause something fell out of his truck which caused a chain reaction of rear ends with me being in the end of it all. The cop stated "I am not going to write you up for following too closely" WTF? The light just turned green and I was about 50 ft from the intersection plus I was about 3 car lenghts behind but my reaction time was a bit slow and I locked the brakes but it just was not enough.

It's coming!!!

What happened?

Are you ok???

I saw that! A lucky number.

Think about this... There are three main corvette web sites, CF, DigitalCorvette and CAC. Combined, they might touch 200,000 total members.

How many Vettes have been sold in the last 50 odd years? 1.7 million or so.

And we got only 777 of 'm! I see growth potential!

That's our membership as of today with three new members!

Woo Hoo!

Oh CRAP!

Sorry man...

Has it made it here yet? If so where is it?

JrRifleCoach where are you?

$500 damn deductable too. Which means it aint getting fixed any time soon.

Dang, sorry dude.

I got lots of work to do to that cabinet before its close to being done.

Just got into one. When I cool down I will post pics. There is not much damage but to a vette owner...well you all know.

LOL

Perhaps I should have listened to the sound clip before I got excited...

There is a clip of an LS1 Camaro with the Pro Series on it. The guy on the CF says that is pretty much how his sounds.

Not my cup of spit.

I think I'll pass.

Bummer. I got a bonus today that would have paid for the whole deal. Guess I'll put it towards the computer.

Those would be exactly the tips I would want. But I simply don't think I could handle that much noise. Plus my wife would have a cow, and we don't have a freezer big enough for all that beef right now.

Cherry, Schmerry.

At least it red.
:thumbright:

Wow, I'm just a little chatterbox today!

There's a guy on another forum who just went from no mufflers to Cherry Bomb Pro Series, and is happy. I'd like a little more sound, and these seem reasonably priced, based on ebay searches. Not sure which part number is best for a '93. I would love to have a dual outlet so I can do four tips total. I want to match the tail lights. I dig that look. And I just got a bonus at work that I was not really expecting...

What do you think? Anybody have an idea which part number would be best, based on having inlet location and muffler size data stuck in your Guru brain? I can't seem to find an application guide.

My current system is stock, BTW.



Cherry Bomb

I know mate yes, although i actually get days off again at the moment, my holiday isnt for another month or abit under. Off work from the 24th of Nov, will be as refreshed and fighting fit by the 26th, on which day i collect TopTechx6 from the airport while the rest of you are all still waiting for the end of the 25th of november!!

No johnny, im just f*****en good mate....

My mate in Burlington is a NAPA service centre (or whatever you call them over there!!) Considering youre quite close to him (compared to me) he might be able to look after you better than most, depending on how well you know the others.

Theft recovery kills the deal straight away for me without a complete tear down and rebuild of the said long block before considering putting a top end on it and kicking it in the guts.

You will never know what happened to that unit before it was stripped of its bits and pieces, and for a very small sum of $1,500 USD (which is absolute chicken feed) id be going to what will be a better starting point.

Hotcam might a pretty sissy cam, but its still not going to work at its best with unported LT1 heads. I dont know if youre planing that or not. Either way you go, if you increase the lift (via the cam or 1.6rrs), your LT1 springs are not worth a damn and need to be replaced. The LT4 has all that, and a servere duty timing set.

I just like to KNOW for certain what im getting is good to go without the issue of ongoing problems. If it fails or causes you issues, there is your $1,500 buffer up and gone.

Then to top this potential off, you have no idea what those bearings have been subject to in their 25,000 miles, moisture in the oil journals isnt out of the question after 2 years of sitting around, and youre looking to add more pressure to them.

Thats all just me, i know youre aware of all these "maybes", which are something i just dont like to play with when there is a very good option that will not only provide a better package, but i reckon better piece of mind as well.

I did a bit of searching, but didn't come up with anything here. Any of you switched to SS lines?

The brakes on my car seem adequate, but not great. My '88 MR2 was the first car I ever drove with four wheel disc brakes, and they felt sooo nice. The pedal feel was perfect. Progressive and communicative. I'd like to have that feeling again. I had a 1988 Honda CBR900RR with kevlar lines, and they felt nice as well.

In the Vette, I get a bit of shaking and noise when coming down from near triple digits, so I will probably replace the rotors. Sounds like bogus likes NAPA. There is one close.

But that won't really change pedal feel, unless there might be some air or old fluid, right? I'll have it all flushed out if I have any service done. But I'm curious about upgrading the lines as well. I guess I could get bigger rotors now that I have the Z06 wheels on there too. I'd consider the C5 upgrade for the front, but probably leave the back alone... I guess.

Thoughts?

Gosh, I still scream like a girl when I mash the throttle in my stock LT1. I wonder how long it will be before I get jaded by a mere 300hp?

I've driven too many gutless ricers, I guess.

My wife has a brand new Suzuki SX4, and that thing is so slow to accelerate, I think it is dangerous to drive! Seriously.

I'm kind of afraid to mess with my engine. Mostly I just want as reliable a car as I can get. I've driven too many gutless (yet friggin reliable as a stone) ricers, I guess.

You gonna take lots of pix and do a tech write-up on the install if you buy a new motor?

I would agree that the low miles on the stroker makes me a little nervous too, great parts but why did he pull it so soon?

yea, you are so right.

I saw that... and it looks like a nice deal... but I just don't know how well it's bolted together.

At least with a stock factory job, I know what's in it. And right now, mild stock is all I need.

As for the 383, a mild one is easier to get past CARB around here. I am thinking even a mild 383 is going to be good for 400hp.

Besides, that's a while away and we can discuss that when I get closer...

Casey... my man... you need a break... all this liquor and nicotine isn't gonna substitute for a day off!!!

When I worked for the Feds a couple years ago, I was on a 12 hour shift for three straight weeks... that sucked... I was dead by the time my first day off came.

Alas, off to work myself!

And Johnny spelled it right!

Check this one out Andy, seems like a steal, the only issue is the shipping.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1847362


As we discussed before these damned deals are always far away!

If the engine came from anywhere else, I would agree. This engine is coming from vette2vette, he only buys the cleanest out there.

This engine came from a theft recovery, it has sat for 2 years, but according to Jason, it has been properly pickled and stored indoors. This is the way it's done here in the states and when done right, it works a-ok. Besides, he gives a pretty good warrantee with his engines.

I have to ask him a couple of question, mainly, did the engine ever run in his presense, if so, it's mine. Most of the time, he likes to have a running motor.

The LT4 is a viable option, but if this motor is good, it's $1500 LESS and that includes the hotcam kit.

I will send the chip to TJ Wong for a burn, or buy one... I am sure this won't be hard to burn up.

My weekend isnt looking good mate, im 26 minutes into it, im out of XXXX, and ive still got 4 more full days of work to go before i have days off....

I best go for a cigar

Yeah mate, around then will be the go.

Good Morning Gurus!

Wahoo! Friday!


Mac OS X Leopard is released tonight. I still haven't been paid on two freelance jobs that would buy me my new computer... Soon, I hope.

I'll be editing a three minute video for a shop that does automotive graphics this weekend. Unortunately, there's no money in it. I did it as a trade deal, but since I'm not big into putting stickers on my cars, I had them do up a friends car instead.

He's got a '93 Vette also, but his is white with a Greenwood body kit. He is running 19" C6 Chrome five spoke wheels on it, and he had the graphics shop do his car up like Speed Racer's Mach 5.

A little over the top for me, but he is enjoying it, so that's what counts! And I was able to help out a good friend, so everyone wins.

What's your weekend looking like?

If you don't dig snow, then I'd guess you're looking at April or May. But I believe you were thinking along those lines before.

What is that DIY solution? Flattening the tires? Very funny.... :tongue:

Righto, so to continue, i would recomend getting an LT4 crate engine if you can, youll need to tune, but you will anyway on a 92 if you change the cam.

This gives you a damn fine engine, you get the 1.6rrs, you get better heads and intake, and i reckon youre good for 350 brake horse and about 200,000 miles.

Sure it cost more, but you want to do this right first go, and a long block with 25,000 miles is not my ideal choice for longevity, you never know what can go wrong with that, so many unknowns. For all you know, it couldve sat around for 5 years in which case youll be lucky to get 100,000 miles with no issues. It couldve had the arse flogged out of it, couldve been over heated, over revved, or mis treated in some other way, and 100,000 miles may even be an optimistic figure.

If you were to go with that, first thing id do is pull it apart, bore it over 30 thou, throw in a new rotating assembly, and build up a new engine. If you did that, you may as well buy a bare block.

Youve got a rooted head gasket mate. Pull the cap off, start and run the engine from cold and watch the cap neck. Youll probably see little bubbles like i did.

My LT1 didnt mix any fluids when this happened, and it didnt blow white smoke either, so it was a tough call and had to be made with the use of a coolant CO tester to check for combustion type gasses in the coolant.

Im going for a Winfield, be back in a few minutes... (thats a brand of Australian cigarette for those who dont know)

Johnny im looking forward to seeing that arcade cab up and running mate, having owned 2 myself i know just how special it is to be able to play a coin op game without putting in the coins!!

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I will do as soon as i can mate, bare in mind i dont like snow very much, so allow for that factor.

The front lowering will be a 2 day job (providing there is no major issues along the way), assembly and disassembly is nothing, but the modification to the front spring takes time, and while that is in progress, the adhesive must have some time alone to cure, i bond the lowering wedges to the vehicle frame cause they will last ALOT longer. The spring retainers will need to be cut down and machined up all nice and smooth to look like a factory job or better (which i always insist on doing, cause you dont want to have to do it again at a later date), but this is no big deal.

The rear will take me about 30 minutes depending on how many cigarette breaks i have. (also bare in mind when i do the rear, i dont like to trust the nylok nuts alone, i use high tensile nuts on first, then followed by the nyloks.)

Dont forget that video camera, this will probably be the best chance to make me "famous" amonst the series 4 Corvette world....