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Re: Question....$1000 extra? Yes or no?
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No clue about the auto's. I would just contact guys like Pete etc....The ZF6 is built very strong, thank goodness.

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Re: Question....$1000 extra? Yes or no?
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Get whatever you think the BEST value is. Plan and simple.

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Re: Gears and Transmission for the 421 and Top Speed.
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I don't think it'll pull it in 6th regardless of rear gear.


I don't think so either, but then again it's going to have a very flat tq curve.

Topspeed isn't really important, but I do have an airport near by that has a very long runway. I was on it 2 years ago, but the car was mainly stock.

It would be cool however for it to do in the 19x mph mark, and run the 1/4 somewhere in the 11's. Somewhat sleeper territory if you ask me.

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Re: Gears and Transmission for the 421 and Top Speed.
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Kev thanks!

Is it possible for the car to pull in 6th?

What 60 foot did you use?


Thanks again. That was cool!

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Re: Gears and Transmission for the 421 and Top Speed.
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Don't know how 2. I sent it to CentralCoaster.

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Re: Gears and Transmission for the 421 and Top Speed.
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Top speed is never a consideration, just a "what if"

A good 1/4 mile gear (assuming you finish in 4th) will also be a good street and highway gear.

But I need a dyno curve before I can be your gearing "expert".
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Re: Gears and Transmission for the 421 and Top Speed.
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That sounds as close as you're going to get to an "all around" gear, from what I understand, which, ain't much.


Not following you. What "ain't much"?

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Re: Gears and Transmission for the 421 and Top Speed.
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If this is a street car, why not street gears...just wonderin...

The goals seem to be all over the place...1/4 mile, top end, street...

Pick one and go with it. There is no one all around solution.



Probably just go with the 3.45's. That way I have room to grow if I ever decide to spray it. The bottom end will certainly handle it!

3.73's would be fun however!

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Re: Gears and Transmission for the 421 and Top Speed.
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Come close to what 200 mph?

Wonder how much power it takes for a C4 to reach 190'ish?

Not really worried about 200. I know it won't have that kind of power!


With the right gearing, 200 doesn't take as much as you think.

I posted the breakdown somewhere else, I'll see if I can't find it.

http://www.corvette-guru.com/modules/ ... =ASC&type=&mode=0&start=0

My posts in that thread have 200mph happening at about 450rwhp in a C4 with proper gearing and enough track.




You have about 600hp as well, lol!!


Kevin did you get my email. I'd would think Jim will get back to us with the dyno graph.

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Re: Gears and Transmission for the 421 and Top Speed.
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Gear it where the cam is going to like it the most, dont do it for top or cruising speed.


That is probably 3.73's. 4.10's would be way to much for the stroker.

The issue is the 3.73's will be great at the track with a hook. I bet it would get deep in the 11's, but I have never been worried about e.t.

It will be fun anyways. Nothing like a manual tranny with over 500hp, and shifting like you stole it.

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You might come close... but I kinda doubt it... aero drag is a bitch.


Come close to what 200 mph?

Wonder how much power it takes for a C4 to reach 190'ish?

Not really worried about 200. I know it won't have that kind of power!

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Re: factory horsepower ratings
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He posted a 13.50 at 101 on the timeslip thread, says it was stock. But that was at the magical Etown track that is built in the bottom of a mineshaft.


If you must: http://www.geocities.com/jgkov/35Anna.html

Jim wasnt stock at 101 mph. Auto's dont trap as high from what I have seen in person.

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Gears and Transmission for the 421 and Top Speed.
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Gears and Transmission for the 421 and Top Speed.


Right now the car sits stored in the garage with the 4+3, and 3.07’s gears. My motor is not far away from being completed so I need to think what gears it’s going to like with the black tag ZF6 I purchased. I have been talking to Vic’89, and I am pretty sure I am going to purchase his old 3.45’s. I am not sure if it’s the optimized gear for the car, but I am sure it will be better then the 3.07’s. I also have a friend that has a set of 3.33’s that I am going to get.

I might leave the 4+3 in the car and see if it will handle the torque, or I might just do both of them at once. The latter seems like the smartest thing, then maybe I cam recoup some money selling the 4+3 since it has no issues what so ever.

With the ZF6 here is the MPH from http://www.f-body.org/gears/ I am hoping this site is accurate, and I think it is. I plan on shifting at 6300, but that is on paper.

3.07’s
1stGear-58 MPH
2ndGear-86MPH
3rdGear-120 MPH
4thGear-155 MPH
5thGear-207 MPH
6thGear-1200 RPM at 60 MPH (wow!)
3.33’s
1stGear-53 MPH
2ndGear-80 MPH
3rdGear-111 MPH
4thGear-143 MPH
5thGear-191 MPH
6thGear-1300 RPM at 60 MPH
3.45’s
1stGear-52 MPH
2ndGear-77 MPH
3rdGear-107MPH
4thGear-138MPH
5thGear-184MPH
6thGear- 1400 RPM at 60 MPH
3.73’s
1stGear-48 MPH
2ndGear-71 MPH
3rdGear-99 MPH
4thGear-128 MPH
5thGear-170 MPH
6thGear- 1500 RPM at 60 MPH

It appears that my top speed with 3.45’s will be 184 MPH. Do you think I will have an issue getting to that speed? It looks like for pure top speed the 3.07’s gear would be the one to go with, but since I can’t drive on the airport strip every day, the 3.07’s doesn’t make sense, but 0-60mph (6400 shift) would be neat in one gear.

If I went with 3.07 gears, do you think the car would be capable of reaching speeds close to 200 mph? Or do you think it would need more power?

For all out ¼ mile it appears that the car would run the strongest with 3.73’s as it would be capable of trapping 128 mph on the big end in 4th, but if I am going to put a 100-150 shot on the car, the 3.73’s would be too much, and the 3.45’s would be more in the cards since 138 mph would be top of 4th. I am thinking the 3.73’s “might” be too much for the street. With the miniram it will have a very flat TQ curve, and make in the area of 400-420rwtq at 2000 rpm’s so I don’t need a gear to get the car rolling especially with the smaller cylinder head ports.

It’s a very interesting decision. I will probably go with the 3.45’s as they seem like the best overall gear. But then again, I won’t know foresure until I drive the car.

I also don't think there is a perfect gear with the ZF6.

Have a good one guys!

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Re: factory horsepower ratings
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Mine's not technically stock as I've ported the plenum and put a cold air intake and new exhaust after the stock Y pipe. The drivetrain is basically all 89 stuff.

65Z01 I think had some killer times on his stock 88.

What was your 1/8th mile on that run? Did you put it in the timeslip thread? I like seeing good times on stock engines on there.


I will have to dig it up. Give me some time!

Jim had a few mods as well.......Jim isn't running as strong these days. I think his ole' L98 is getting tired.

I thought his car ran a 14.3x or something to that accord when it was stock at 96-97 mph. Not really that good!

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From what I have seen it's a very green running motor. I have't seen very many people run a 13.6 with a stock L-98 with a 1.95 60 foot.


I don't think that's anything unusual. My conclusion is that most everyone else just can't drive what they have.

My best was 13.79@100.4 w/ 2.01 60', SAE corrected to 13.67@101.3. I don't even know what mine is capable of since I have only 6 passes on the 1/4. 99% of my stuff is at the local 1/8th mile. One of these days I'll dyno it.



I don't know about you, but I havent seen very many trap 102 with a stock motor. I have 3 friends with L-98, and they had a few other minor mods, and I was always trapping the highest mph when we went to Cayuga Motorsport Track.

I have seen a few on the forum trapping in the 104-105 area but they had roller rockers, pulleys etc.....

I still thought 102 was good with only mod being exhaust, and the shitty flowmaster 2.25" catback to boot!

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So, flyboy, did we answer your question ok?


You answered it first.

Thanks.

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Re: factory horsepower ratings
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My 88 was dynoed bone stock. It made 211rwhp(yeah i know), but it made 318 rwtq. I was suprised that it made that much TQ. In my opinion the L-98, or at least my motor was underrated in the TQ department.

My new motor should be in the area of 460rwhp in the same chassis. Ouch!


NEW motor? A 20 year old L98 that has 211 is VERY good. It is obviously in excellent condition and has a GOOD burn and tune.

I would NOT pull that motor.


It's a bone stock motor. My best is a 13.6x@102.

I will be selling it next year, or putting it on a engine stand for a conversation piece in my garage.

From what I have seen it's a very green running motor. I have't seen very many people run a 13.6 with a stock L-98 with a 1.95 60 foot.

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Re: Idiots on forums
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88BlackZ51 wrote: and in the end, they find out they where wrong to begin with, lol!


Right, wrong, dudn't matter...



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I don't find that funny....If you did, Good for you!

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Re: Idiots on forums
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Yes there are alot of internet idiots!

There is also the typical guy that is trying to make a point, but he fails to release that no one is listening to him for several reasons. Those guys waste hundreds of hours for nothing typically typing late at night, and in the end, they find out they where wrong to begin with, lol!

There is always good, and bad advice on the internet. It's up to the person too decide if the source is credible, or if it's hear say, or just bullshit!

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Re: LTx guys inside (pics added)
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Nice of you to help him out Ron!

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My 88 was dynoed bone stock. It made 211rwhp(yeah i know), but it made 318 rwtq. I was suprised that it made that much TQ. In my opinion the L-98, or at least my motor was underrated in the TQ department.

My new motor should be in the area of 460rwhp in the same chassis. Ouch!

I find it humerous that the old timers including my father talk about the old days, and how FAST the cars used to be. I admit the odd big block was very fast, but we are living the big HP days right NOW!

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Re: D44, one eye open.
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You can always find them for sale, but the sellers certainly don't give them away.

You could stick with the D36, and if it blows then upgrade.

If you look at both the D36, and the D44 next too each other in person. It's obvious which one is stronger!

Do you ever plan on using slicks or drag radials? It's obviously that's in the shock that spits them out.

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Re: Noise driving me crazy
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Do you only hear the whining when the spouse is in the car? :book:


Nice Ron!

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Re: The Famous Central Coaster!!!
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There is no Cool Crowd, I have done to my car exactly what I chose to do based on what I have distinguished to be viable methods. Not specifically on what the cool crowd says at Corvette Forum, here or Camaro Z28.com
It is just too much effort to even worry about the other guys and who cares for, or doesn't.

John, my recommendation to you is, just do what you want and don't even tell what you are doing!!! Is it really that important for these guys to know the details of your build?

I probably have close to 400hp rear wheel, but I don't even have the energy to make someone believe me, nor do I give a shit. they aren't my friend or neighbor nor will ever be.

Sorry, I'm not in this to impress anyone except myself.

Love Ya, lets Party

Don't Worry just relax
well, the cool crowd on camaroz28.com humps advanced inductions leg. i got a page of people giving me shit here about how i should post my cam specs. well if you must know its about 2 feet long and about 2 inches in diameter with a 107 lsa for my lazy ports.



don't fool yourself. your cam specs are pretty much the same specs as any other LE head with a huge port. nothing special. i can almost picture your dyno curve's.

heh you said it, not me!

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Re: The Famous Central Coaster!!!
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coaster know's his stuff, and has been there done that, with his projects. many others think they are "experts", but don't know what shoe to put on the left foot in the morning.

i just get messed up, because one shoe lace is longer then the other.



kevin is good chit in my books!

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Re: Trans Decision...
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John, If anyone attacks you, or gangs up on you, please let me know. I don't like when the little guys get picked on.


That right there is just right out funny. I don't know why I ever thought you had no sense of humor.



You think that's funny? That's nothing!

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Re: ITS ALIVE
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NICE WORK!!! How much power you leaving on the table or above the curve?

OK, just joking. Good work.


Do you ever stop John? I know your joking, but enough is enough......

You have tryed, over, and over, and over to make a point. Just let it rest.


Prozac. Let's hear a video!

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What happens if Pete says no?
you get a cookie.
Chocolate chip I hope....John did Pete say yes? I myself would be worried about the warranty, and the reputation of the shop.
apparently you don't get out too much cause they are sponsors on a few f body sites with tons of good feedback.


Sorry man. Don't spend all day on car forums.

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Re: once again
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Wisecracks are one thing, bashing someone for the sake of it is another thing.


I agree. It's a shame Vettethreat and TPI guy can't control themselves.


What about me?

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you get a cookie.
Chocolate chip I hope....John did Pete say yes? I myself would be worried about the warranty, and the reputation of the shop.

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I guess you guys won't be discussing anything then.

John, If anyone attacks you, or gangs up on you, please let me know. I don't like when the little guys get picked on.


Ron, that was funny man....

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Re: I voted
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Black has everything to do with it for black people, and little to do with it for white people.

Kinda points to who's obsessed with racial prejudice doesn't it?



Yuppers!

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Re: Trans Decision...
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What happens if Pete says no?

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Re: More pics from my weekend run-away
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i didn't see any of you though?


No beaver shots from Beaver Lake?


Took you long enough to say that. She must have expected it!

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Re: LTx guys inside
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330 before tuning and 356 after it looks like to me.


Whoops. That was from no sleep.

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Re: I ruined my neighborhood...
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Always, I repeat always do this at night in a grocery store parking lot. Or in a democrats front yard


Nice. :lol:

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Was that 356 rwtq?

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Re: So anyway...wheel widening questions
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I thought of doing that, but I wasn't sold on the idea, plus those rims are a tank to start with. I settled with some 315/30/18's on a 10.5 inch

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You don't waste anytime. Good for you. Are you going to dyno tune it? If so where? Hope it all works out.

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Re: Hello Guru's........l
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Jsup. There are tons of places you can go to hide. I heard about your tuning issues, lol.


So you're laughing about people's problem. As usual, class act. :thumbright: Couldn't make it through a single thread, could ya?
Actually I wish you all the best. It's just ironic how you said the stock computer is the BEST thing for tuning. NOT!!

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Re: Hello Guru's........l
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John. Don't flatter yourself. If it wasn't for my fanclub , lol, I wouldn't of heard about Guru. I did not join because of you, but I am happy you are here.

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Jsup. There are tons of places you can go to hide. I heard about your tuning issues, lol.

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Pete check your yahoo account. I am always nice....

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After receiving many e-mails from my 421 fan club members, I have decided to join this site. I have noticed a few guys have came over. So whether you love me, or hate me, I am here for a while. I also wanted to say a special thanks to you know who. It has been quiet on the other forum, thank god.

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