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BrianCunningham | So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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Pulling out onto the main road from the house,
the Corvette through all the belts! Need to pull it apart, install new belts and see what the damage is So much for he Mustang vs Corvette drag race tomorrow At least it happened at home and not going down the dragstrip! |
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hcbph | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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Threw the belt(s)? Did they just come off or tear up?
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Did you look at it yet? Did something lock up?
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BrianCunningham | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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Tore up the blower belt which took out the stock belt
at least that's what I think |
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Didn't realize there was a blower involved or multiple belts. Not knowing any part of it, assuming that nothing failed in the blower or possible tensioner, I'd look at either pulley alignment or belt failure first. I suppose it's possible to have pulley wobble but I'd look into alignment.
This all assuming you have not done whatever you did this time. If so then I'd look into belt failure first. |
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Looking forward to an update. In my experience, belts don't just shred for no reason. Hope it's something minor.
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BrianCunningham | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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Needed to order the custom blower belt
Has to come from the factory Won't be here till the 22'd |
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383tpimachine | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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What belt do you run?
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seems are friends @ RockAuto had one
should be here Wednesday |
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383tpimachine | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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Do they not make an HD version in that size?
Green belt is stiff as hell. |
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Don't know
How do you cross reference the # to a green belt? |
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Schrade | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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Can ALWAYS be a 'worse time' for the weak link to break...
No hardware damage? |
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still inspecting
to be honest, I'm still cleaning out the "workspace" |
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BrianCunningham | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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Started tearing it down
Mystery solved There's a big chunk out of one of the pulleys! Going to see if I can get a billet replacement |
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BrianCunningham | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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Ordered a replacement pulley in metal
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383tpimachine | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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http://navigates.gates.com/AddedValue.aspx?PartNumber=K080525HD Literally just adding HD to the end for your size. Mine is stiff as hell but I may need to go down 1/2" for a tighter wrap. Rockauto had mine in 94.5" in stock and they had a nice price as well. Maybe order one and keep the regular as a spare? |
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BrianCunningham | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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after doing some additional teardown looks like it's damage as well
Not sure what happened but there's an 1/8in groove warn into the metal! |
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Matatk | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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Time to find out what caused that. What is it rubbing? Hard to see from the photos.
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BrianCunningham | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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Another mystery solved:
Took another look Why is there aluminum powder on my FRAME RAIL? Yup, I'm twisting the engine enough to make the pulley GRIND THE FRAME! |
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Matatk | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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Poly or solid motor mounts...get ready to vibrate your fillings out.
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Now that is pretty wild.
Do they even make solid mounts for the C4? I have the XE poly mounts but this has me thinking. |
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Not that I know of
I thinking on installing a turnbuckle Just talked with Greg@BlowerWorks He can get me a smaller pulley It's an idler so it won't mess up the drive ratio |
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The LT1 has a different mount system... this rubber thing full of something to make it hydraulic. I can see it giving up.
I don't know if traditional mounts would even work on the later C4. I am sure something could be machined from poly and a bolt threaded through. |
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BrianCunningham | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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I can't get a wrench on the 12 point bolt holding the bracket on.
This is a pic from the manual On mine the blower pulley is still installed |
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Workspace - that's one reason I WAS considering selling the Z - had to clear space for new projects, before starting...
But now that an INJ is leaking (in addition to oil catch can work), it has returned to the 'project table'. Quote:
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I finally got that stupid bolt out!
There's suppose to be a 12pt bolt so you can access it But the second hand kit did not come with the hardware, So my builder put a 6pt in instead Finally got it off with a 9/16 socket on a 1/4in drive |
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Pic of the damage with the bracket out.
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Talked to my builder yesterday, really just to ask how he managed to put it together :lol:
I mentioned the torque strap He said not to use a chain or a turnbuckle. They might set off the knock sensor But a strap should work |
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Matatk | Re: So much for going drag racing tomorrow | ||
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What size is the 12 pt supposed to be, I can look in my bins for an extra.
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I made my living owning a Courier & Delivery - pretty well too...
$54 doesn't surprise me. Quote:
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Pic of the new pulleys next to the old ones
this shows the size difference This won't effect the drive ratio All rebuilt, I later put in on the blower & started to hook everything back up |
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Just about have it all back together
Just need to hook up the radiator BTW putting the belt back on is WAY easier with the radiator hoses out of the way. I'll have 30 hours into it by the time I'm finished. If I had gone back to the $75/hr shop that installed it that would have been $2,250 |
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Good job!
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Son of a ...
The new idler is hitting the blower. Didn't see it till I got it all together. Need to tear it all apart AGAIN |
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Something said for practice and knowing how it all comes apart.
I got it all apart in less that 3 hrs. Summit sent me a stock plastic replacement Need to helicoil one of the tapped holes in the bracket Been together & apart too many times NAPA had the correct helicoil kit in stock. |
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These kits are close but are not perfect. I took an entire pulley off and clearanced a spacer as it was hitting.
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'Knowing' your motor; just what I preach.
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The proper bolts came in today
Should be a lot easier putting it back together now |
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??? Where is she now there?
It's a pain doin' vids, pics, write-up........... |
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trying to find a puller for the non-stock one piece harmonic damper
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OK _finally_ had time to get the blower back on the car.
With the new _smaller_ idler pulley the belt K080525 seems a little _loose_ I had the next size down K080514, but that's way to short. Tried looking up some different manufacturers, but can seem to find any in between the two |
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IT'S ALIVE!
No belts in between those two sizes. So I put it back together with the belt size I was running. I'll see how much slip I get. May not be that much, seeing I'm only running 5psi boost. Letting it sit overnight to check to leaks. I'll take it for a run tomorrow. |
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Warmed up mill takes up a little belt tension???
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