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| CSS996 | PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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Well, I was trying to stay off the site for a week, so I could think about other things... Three days was more than enough of that crap!
OK, so here's the deal. I have tried and tried to search this, because I KNOW the answer has probably been posted any number of times, on several forums. But here's the thing... NONE of the posts seem to have the exact same problem I do. Here's where I'm at: 81c3 pulled codes for me a couple weeks ago. None to speak of. PKE fuse appears to be in working order. I pulled it to "reset" the system, if that actually works... Key in ignition and turned on.... PKE light on DIC panel illuminates for two seconds and turns off, as it is supposed to. PKE fob is at the opposite end of the house, and my cell phone is there too. Because I did not want the unit too close, and I hear cell phones can cause problems. I attempt to program the PKE using the owner's manual. Key on, engine off, push TRIP ODO button twice, then within five seconds, press FUEL INFO button. I hold that sucker in for twenty seconds, to no avail. The PKE light never comes on, to signal program mode. I've tried this about ten times today, and no luck. I did, however, replace my headliner today, and took several pix. I will do a write-up soon. The FSM was of no help on this project.  So, can anyone offer suggestions on what I might be doing wrong? Hopefully if I ever get this damn thing working, I like it enough to keep it turned on. I still don't know if the fob is any good. But I have no way of knowing that at this point.  |
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Posted on: 2008/7/9 22:11
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| Mekanic | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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Same thing mine does, it refuses to go into program mode.
Solution: new PKE module :sadface: |
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Posted on: 2008/7/9 22:19
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| CSS996 | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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If that is the only solution, then I can live without the PKE for now...
Thanks!  Any other suggestions? |
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Posted on: 2008/7/9 22:27
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| Matatk | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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Leave the windows down.  Haha...I told you that you couldn't stay away for too long! Matthew |
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Posted on: 2008/7/10 0:54
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| Mekanic | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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oh yeah, 1 other thing.
It will still pick up radio signals, like when you bring the remote in range, the light will come on, or under certain traffic lights its come on too. solution: pull teh fuse lol |
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Posted on: 2008/7/10 0:58
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| CSS996 | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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Yeah Matt. You were right.
I've never experienced the stuff you mention, Mekanic. Maybe there's hope for me yet!  |
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Posted on: 2008/7/10 2:09
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| biggrizzly | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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I had similiar problems a couple years ago with a brand new key fob. It worked like a champ for a few months and then over night I couldn't program it.
After I get the car back on the road and get it smoothed out from the rebuild, I plan to tackle the key fob problem too, so if you record you findings and become a PKE Guru I can pick your brains. |
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Posted on: 2008/7/10 2:17
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| toptechx6 | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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I see one thing missing from your programming procedure that is mentioned in my instructions, that is the reminder to have the radio off. Likely you simply forgot to list that step but thought I would a least toss it out there. The trouble shooting procedure for failure to enter programming mode in my 93 book is short but not easy to perform with common tools. If CCM codes 13 or 14 are NOT present it requires removal of the upper IP trim pad to access the PKE receiver and a digital storage oscilloscope to check the very brief 5 volt communication pulse between PKE and CCM over circuit 1455. If circuit 1455 integrity is verified replacement of PKE or CCM modules is indicated. Without a DSO about all you can do is check circuit 1455 (black with white tracer)for open or short to ground using a multimeter, if it checks good replacing the PKE receiver is likely the least expensive thing to try, good luck. |
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Posted on: 2008/7/10 9:13
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| CSS996 | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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Wow... Thanks!
The radio was off, and I do not have the tools you mention. Not something I want to tackle right away. But next time I have the dash apart to remove the radio for repair or replacement, I will see about checking the circuit. Thanks again. |
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Posted on: 2008/7/10 11:24
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| toptechx6 | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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Can't blame you for not diving right into this one, too much work for what is gained. Don't feel bad about not having a DSO in your tool box, I have a 40 year collection and it is not in my box either. The multimeter or DVOM on the other hand, I consider a must have on our cars, it has many, many uses and they are dirt cheap anymore. |
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Posted on: 2008/7/10 14:00
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| jhammons01 | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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Digital Volt Ohm Meter?? |
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Posted on: 2008/7/10 15:19
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| toptechx6 | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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Yes John, sorry for not being clear. |
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Posted on: 2008/7/10 16:50
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| Randy93 | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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There is a way to pull the PKE system codes, but if the receiver is bad, it can send a false code showing everything is working.
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Posted on: 2008/7/10 19:06
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| toptechx6 | Re: PKE Issue (I have been reading a LOT of PKE posts...) | ||
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Yep, you are correct Randy, I think the correct pins are below but check YOUR FSM to verify. The Passive Keyless Entry lamp will flash the codes, to start the key should be in the ignition, but in the OFF position. [IMG]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k3/toptechx6/photobucket%20transfer/12pin-ALDL.gif[/IMG] 93 12 Pin ALDC (short A to H) [IMG]http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k3/toptechx6/photobucket%20transfer/16pin-aldl.gif[/IMG] 94-95 (96 maybe) 16 pin ALDC (short 8 to 12) |
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