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BrianCunningham	Re: Super Ram on the way	#151
Senior Guru Boston, MA for the most part :) 7763 Posts Member since: 2007/12/30 0:00	Good use of the bore scope Be glad you caught it. I know someone that didn't, wasn't too pleased with the results.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#152
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: BrianCunningham wrote: Good use of the bore scope Be glad you caught it. I know someone that didn't, wasn't too pleased with the results. HF has some items that are worth their money.. This one sure was.
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bogus	Re: Super Ram on the way	#153
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	It's on my short list...
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#154
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: bogus wrote: It's on my short list... $90 not sale price http://www.harborfreight.com/digital-inspection-camera-67979.html http://images.harborfreight.com/manuals/66000-66999/66550.pdf
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BrianCunningham	Re: Super Ram on the way	#155
Senior Guru Boston, MA for the most part :) 7763 Posts Member since: 2007/12/30 0:00	Wow those came down quite a bit
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bogus	Re: Super Ram on the way	#156
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	they have been. the proliferation of smart phones and cheap camera tech has made them cheap cheap cheap. I have been watching them for some time; Fry's has been selling one for about $120 for at least a year.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#157
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Paid $70 on sale last year
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Churchkey	Re: Super Ram on the way	#158
Guru 69 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:01	Amazon 69.95 & free shipping search "digital inspection camera"
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#159
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Are there two vacuum lines that plug into this sensor? Putting the valve covers on wasn't easy. Lots of nuts and bolts to disconnect and reconnect. Getting close to firing her up. Attach file: 20131220_221811.jpeg (359.34 KB) 20131220_221840.jpeg (232.81 KB)
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Woodstock	Re: Super Ram on the way	#160
Senior Guru Bremen/Germany 369 Posts Member since: 2008/1/15 0:00	Quote: istter1 wrote: Are there two vacuum lines that plug into this sensor? Sure, one into the EGR valve and the other into the throttle body.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#161
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: Woodstock wrote: Quote: istter1 wrote: Are there two vacuum lines that plug into this sensor? Sure, one into the EGR valve and the other into the throttle body. Which line is on top. Attach file: EGR System.pdf Size: 392.31 KB; Hits: 228
	Posted on: 2013/12/21 13:30 Edited by istter1 on 2013/12/21 13:49:24
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Churchkey	Re: Super Ram on the way	#162
Guru 69 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:01	This may help [URL=http://s863.photobucket.com/user/churchkey/media/vettevacuum2520lines.gif.html][/URL]
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Woodstock	Re: Super Ram on the way	#163
Senior Guru Bremen/Germany 369 Posts Member since: 2008/1/15 0:00	or this: Attach file: egr.jpg (138.33 KB)
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#164
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Vacume on top Off to get some plugs for extra vacum connections And water hose clamps Thanks
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#165
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	First question how do you move the bracket up the cable so I can mount it to the pelum? Plugged excess vacuum ports. No leaks pleasure holding. Have to insert chip and then fire it up. Was told to let it idle for 15 minutes so ecm can adjust? Attach file: 20131221_181632.jpeg (275.80 KB) 20131221_121049.jpeg (383.46 KB) 20131221_121656.jpeg (312.07 KB)
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bogus	Re: Super Ram on the way	#166
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	looking good!!! Donno why you would have extra vacuum to cap off. Please explain...
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#167
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: bogus wrote: looking good!!! Donno why you would have extra vacuum to cap off. Please explain... can't find any other lines to hook up. Drink a lot of whine while slowly going through the double and triple check process.in my memory there should be one more.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#168
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: Churchkey wrote: This may help [URL=http://s863.photobucket.com/user/churchkey/media/vettevacuum2520lines.gif.html][/URL] Andy if this chart is correct I have everything covered. Right now concern is how to move the clips that hold the cables so I can attach the bracket to pelum Attach file: 20131221_181632.jpeg (275.80 KB)
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#169
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	I had 1 & 2 reversed Still checking Attach file: valvethr.jpg (22.59 KB)
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BrianCunningham	Re: Super Ram on the way	#170
Senior Guru Boston, MA for the most part :) 7763 Posts Member since: 2007/12/30 0:00	Quote: bogus wrote: looking good!!! Donno why you would have extra vacuum to cap off. Please explain... same part for different years?? Just an educated guess on my part
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#171
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Today feel like them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature= ... _detailpage&v=J96zfbwijMs Went to start engine and 4 injectors plugs off. Drivers side off trying to find something to hold so I can re set it tight fit. Linkage up side down duhhhh. Phone rand Stacy call says we are going to church mow. Lunch. Next a long walk. Nap time and in an hour try to figure out what to use to hold and position plug. Needle nose player's no luck. Any suggestions Attach file: 20131221_181632.jpeg (275.80 KB)
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#172
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Will try these to put caps back on injectors tomorrow Attach file: 20131222_211255.jpeg (316.32 KB)
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Matatk	Re: Super Ram on the way	#173
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22804 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	I had no problem with the injector harnesses on mine. I would try long needle nose pliers before chopsticks. Just me.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#174
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: Matatk wrote: I had no problem with the injector harnesses on mine. I would try long needle nose pliers before chopsticks. Just me. My son with the good eyes tried the long pliers had no luck. He is the one that knocked the plugs off when he installed the valve covers and didn't check before he tightened them down. When it warms up some I will get her done.
	Posted on: 2013/12/23 13:35
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bogus	Re: Super Ram on the way	#175
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	Quote: istter1 wrote: I had 1 & 2 reversed Still checking #1 is for PCV, #2 is evap emissions.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#176
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: bogus wrote: Quote: istter1 wrote: I had 1 & 2 reversed Still checking #1 is for PCV, #2 is evap emissions. Thanks got that right. Lol
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#177
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	These work great. Got some loose connection to fix. May start tonight or tomorrow. Fingers crossed Attach file: 20131223_163512.jpeg (357.86 KB)
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Matatk	Re: Super Ram on the way	#178
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#179
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Might have an injector in wrong place would this cause a backfire? Wants to start but not getting enough fuel I am thinking. Only one backfire. Never removed of moved Dizzy.
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Churchkey	Re: Super Ram on the way	#180
Guru 69 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:01	L98 injection is batch fire not sequential. It does not make any difference which connector is attached to an injector. Suggest cycling the ignition. Key on for 5 seconds then off, repeat 4-5 times this will fill the fuel rails etc. Check the firing order.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#181
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: Churchkey wrote: L98 injection is batch fire not sequential. It does not make any difference which connector is attached to an injector. Suggest cycling the ignition. Key on for 5 seconds then off, repeat 4-5 times this will fill the fuel rails etc. Check the firing order. Did not know that. Thanks
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Matatk	Re: Super Ram on the way	#182
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22804 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	What he said....doesn't matter what injector wire is on which injector. Double check wires and make sure dizzy wires and everything is hooked up correctly. Did you properly clock the distributor when you put it back in? Was the motor on TDC?
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Matatk	Re: Super Ram on the way	#183
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22804 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	Sorry I just reread that you said you never removed the distributor. Was it loosened at all? Check timing. Backfire sounds like a timing issue.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#184
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: Matatk wrote: Sorry I just reread that you said you never removed the distributor. Was it loosened at all? Check timing. Backfire sounds like a timing issue. Double checking everything Going to reset throttel.position sensor Looking for the setting 5 something
	Posted on: 2013/12/24 18:32
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Churchkey	Re: Super Ram on the way	#185
Guru 69 Posts Member since: 2009/7/25 19:01	Quote: istter1 wrote: Quote: Matatk wrote: Sorry I just reread that you said you never removed the distributor. Was it loosened at all? Check timing. Backfire sounds like a timing issue. Double checking everything Going to reset throttel.position sensor Looking for the setting 5 something You need a good digital voltmeter that will read voltages less than 1 volt. The setting is .54 = just over 1/2 volt. Merry Christmas "Doctor"
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#186
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: Churchkey wrote: Quote: istter1 wrote: Quote: Matatk wrote: Sorry I just reread that you said you never removed the distributor. Was it loosened at all? Check timing. Backfire sounds like a timing issue. Double checking everything Going to reset throttel.position sensor Looking for the setting 5 something You need a good digital voltmeter that will read voltages less than 1 volt. The setting is .54 = just over 1/2 volt. Merry Christmas "Doctor" Just got back.from store bought a digital. Pain in butt getting .54. Was .35. It tries to fire. Found out son was doing something . Two plug wires un hooked. Plug wire t cap pushed up and loose from installing pelum. Now it wants to start. Sometime it trys to.idel other times reves uo. My guess vacume leaks some where.. Feel like six pack time
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#187
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Ya using old style meter not good. found line I didn't connect and added connector . I was looking Andy.. Closer to starting. Not yet lol Attach file: 20131224_123046.jpeg (250.70 KB) 20131224_203632.jpeg (228.02 KB) hav.jpg (15.80 KB) 20131224_205522.jpeg (151.49 KB)
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Matatk	Re: Super Ram on the way	#188
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22804 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	Double check all those connections. It's easy to have a vacuum leak on these if you don't tighten everything evenly. Good luck.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#189
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: Matatk wrote: Double check all those connections. It's easy to have a vacuum leak on these if you don't tighten everything evenly. Good luck. Nothing else to do today. Thanks for the encouragement
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#190
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Grasping at straws Could I have installed the chip on the piggy back the wrong way. If I did what would be the results
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bogus	Re: Super Ram on the way	#191
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah San Pedro, CA 20859 Posts Member since: 2005/9/7 0:00	nothing... perhaps a seriously pissed off SES light as the ECM would have been totally confused. crank yes, start no.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#192
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: bogus wrote: nothing... perhaps a seriously pissed off SES light as the ECM would have been totally confused. crank yes, start no. great answer
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BillH	Re: Super Ram on the way	#193
The Stig Moderator Reno 22702 Posts Member since: 2007/12/25 0:00	Quote: istter1 wrote: Grasping at straws Could I have installed the chip on the piggy back the wrong way. If I did what would be the results The chip/board should be keyed (as ALL electronic connectors are). Putting in backwards with power to the wrong connector could blow the prom depending on the circuitry path. Which is why things are keyed.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#194
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: BillH wrote: Quote: istter1 wrote: Grasping at straws Could I have installed the chip on the piggy back the wrong way. If I did what would be the results The chip/board should be keyed (as ALL electronic connectors are). Putting in backwards with power to the wrong connector could blow the prom depending on the circuitry path. Which is why things are keyed. I installed it before the SR and took a picture of it. My son put the chip in after the flash from PCM and thought he may have put it in wrong. I pulled it and it looks correct Attach file: 20131007_183809.jpeg (257.82 KB) 1381716311932.jpeg (306.14 KB)
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#195
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	My friends shop has a smoke machine I will check with him tomorrow and see if I can use it. Guessing sucks
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Matatk	Re: Super Ram on the way	#196
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22804 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	Im on my phone right now...pic looks ok but I am not sure off hand. The adapter can only be installed one way. The chip can in fact be installed backwards. Look at moates.net for a picture. There is a half moon shape on the chip that helps you identify orientation.
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BillH	Re: Super Ram on the way	#197
The Stig Moderator Reno 22702 Posts Member since: 2007/12/25 0:00	Quote: Matatk wrote: Im on my phone right now...pic looks ok but I am not sure off hand. The adapter can only be installed one way. The chip can in fact be installed backwards. Look at moates.net for a picture. There is a half moon shape on the chip that helps you identify orientation. Possible, I have one of Alvin's chip/adapters somewhere in the shop, I'll see if I can find it today.
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#198
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Quote: BillH wrote: Quote: Matatk wrote: Im on my phone right now...pic looks ok but I am not sure off hand. The adapter can only be installed one way. The chip can in fact be installed backwards. Look at moates.net for a picture. There is a half moon shape on the chip that helps you identify orientation. Possible, I have one of Alvin's chip/adapters somewhere in the shop, I'll see if I can find it today. The prom can be put on two directions. Nothing stops you from flipping over the prom . Moates chip is the same I have one here. Gota go get blood drawn will pull it out and look at it when I get back. Teachers have good vacations. Attach file: 20131226_075941.jpeg (175.04 KB) 20131226_080047.jpeg (167.98 KB) 20131226_080020.jpeg (139.40 KB)
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istter1	Re: Super Ram on the way	#199
Elite Guru Bakersfield Ca 2336 Posts Member since: 2011/7/4 21:23	Well smoke machine is down so I will do the smoke machine the old school way. Attach file: 20131226_100337.jpeg (318.73 KB) bth_red-dumb-ass.jpg (9.48 KB)
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Matatk	Re: Super Ram on the way	#200
Webmaster SW Chicago Burbs 22804 Posts Member since: 2008/1/7 0:00	So what are the symptoms of "trying" to start? Cranks? Catches? Runs and dies? Are you sure all of the connectors are in and tight? Even with a vacuum leak you will start and run, but it will be high idle, rough, uneven, etc.
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