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Notorious What a pin-head....
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Yes, this really happened and in my state, I'm ashamed to say. Not that anywhere has the market cornered on idiots. The most disturbing part to me is where he states that he's offended that Obama's running for president. Offended?
There's little doubt as to his motivation after that statement. Something tells me that there's something other than political ideology involved in his choice here. (duh!)
Sorry pal, George Wallace is dead.... I'm sure he was your favorite candidate ever, or maybe it was David Duke.

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Unfortunately, I don't know who you are talking about.

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Unfortunately, I don't know who you are talking about.

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Well I feel like a dumbass. I was so pissed off I forgot to post the video. Fixed.
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Lol...no problem.

Freedom of speech? Yes.
Hillrod? Yes.

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TommyT-Bone Re: What a pin-head....
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You called ...........

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red_johnny Re: What a pin-head....
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Pissed off over what? Just like people post those dumb bumper stickers up I dont see this as being any differant. Only differance is he is actually ticking more people off by telling poeple they are not welcome to park there. Even though he is letting them park there. I dont like obama as much as the next guy but I would not do something this extreme. Its called freedom of speech, its his land so whats the issue?
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bogus Re: What a pin-head....
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The issue is the pretence of intolerance. Remove racism for a second, it's the simple intolerance of a democratic candidate.

You may not agree with the man, but that is an insult to those that do. I am sorry, but I don't see the humour.

He has the right to free speach, and since he isn't towing folks, that's all it is, a statement of protest, but wouldn't a large pro-McCain sign have the same effect without being petty and exclusionary?

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I dont like obama as much as the next guy but I would not do something this extreme. Its called freedom of speech, its his land so whats the issue?


I find these two sentences interesting. First off, it implies that everyone hates Obama. Which is obviously not the truth considering he is leading in the polls. In that first sentence, you say that you would not do something this extreme, yet in the next you excuse it via freedom of speach?

Which is it? Do you feel it's extreme or not?

I agree he has the freedom to express his opinion, but the method is just so very polarizing. Whereas a simple McCain/Palin sign would have delivered the same message without all the historonics.

And yes, unless the ghost of FDR runs for president, I am voting for Obama.

Oh, Notorious, in reference to morons, check out the Carlin vids in Tommy's PRC thread. Enlightenment in this country has become a form of elitism.

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I made a sign for you, Andy.

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Which is it? Do you feel it's extreme or not?

It is extreme but he is well covered in the freedom of speech. I am just saying as far as not liking him that he dont have my vote and I just dont see how others can vote for him. His views, opinions, policys are just mostly wrong to ME. Maybe you can support him and thats your choice but I can not and thats my choice. One BIG reason I cant vote for this guy is he will be getting alot of votes because he is black. I am not a racist but I know I will catch flames for this. Most black people will vote the big O cause he is black...period. It dont matter what his views are, they will swing their views just to vote for him. I have several black friends and co-workers. Most of them are voting for him and even told me it was because he was black. I think that is the wrong reason to vote for someone.
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I don't see a problem with it. It's his lot. If I was offended by the sign, I would park elsewhere and walk further, or buy my own lot.

I see it as a property owner rights issue.
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For those to whom my take on this might not have been obvious, I could care less who this guy is voting for. And perhaps I'm wrong (but I don't think so) but I believe he's a blatant racist. And as Andy said, this cretin with the parking lot is accomplishing nothing but furthering divisiveness. And God knows our country doesn't need anymore of that. Hell, I'm not voting for Obama either but it's because the Republican party more closely matches my personal political philosophy. I couldn't care less about the details of any candidate's particular gene pool or chromosome arrangement. I just want the best for our country, especially in such difficult times. If Obama does indeed win, I'll hope that he can accomplish some positive things. When I strongly disagree, I'll rail against him as I would my own party's or any other elected officials when I believe they're in error. When I was young, I was a liberal with some conservative beliefs. Now I'm a conservative but still liberal on some issues. On certain core beliefs, I never have and never will change. On other things, I may be proven wrong. And if so, I hope I'll learn and grow as I'd like to think I always have.

Oh, and I'm not disagreeing that this guy doesn't have the right to be a moron, he certainly does. And that's great because everyone will know him for what he is.
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For those to whom my take on this might not have been obvious, I could care less who this guy is voting for. And perhaps I'm wrong (but I don't think so) but I believe he's a blatant racist. And as Andy said, this cretin with the parking lot is accomplishing nothing but furthering divisiveness. And God knows our country doesn't need anymore of that. Hell, I'm not voting for Obama either but it's because the Republican party more closely matches my personal political philosophy. I couldn't care less about the details of any candidate's particular gene pool or chromosome arrangement. I just want the best for our country, especially in such difficult times. If Obama does indeed win, I'll hope that he can accomplish some positive things. When I strongly disagree, I'll rail against him as I would my own party's or any other elected officials when I believe they're in error. When I was young, I was a liberal with some conservative beliefs. Now I'm a conservative but still liberal on some issues. On certain core beliefs, I never have and never will change. On other things, I may be proven wrong. And if so, I hope I'll learn and grow as I'd like to think I always have.

Oh, and I'm not disagreeing that this guy doesn't have the right to be a moron, he certainly does. And that's great because everyone will know him for what he is.
And the guy certainly is a moron. Wow, my head hurts after I read your post. I am going to lay down now and let it all sink in.
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Which is it? Do you feel it's extreme or not?

It is extreme but he is well covered in the freedom of speech. I am just saying as far as not liking him that he dont have my vote and I just dont see how others can vote for him. His views, opinions, policys are just mostly wrong to ME. Maybe you can support him and thats your choice but I can not and thats my choice. One BIG reason I cant vote for this guy is he will be getting alot of votes because he is black. I am not a racist but I know I will catch flames for this. Most black people will vote the big O cause he is black...period. It dont matter what his views are, they will swing their views just to vote for him. I have several black friends and co-workers. Most of them are voting for him and even told me it was because he was black. I think that is the wrong reason to vote for someone.


I agree 100% that voting for someone because he or she fits a demographic is not the most logical reason. It's about issues and how the message touches someone on a personal level. With our current political climate, it's the best we can do.

Now, on to another point of mine. And Notorious touches on it. That's the divisiveness going on in our country. I suspect you did it without even knowing it.

I am just saying as far as not liking him that he don't have my vote and I just don't see how others can vote for him.

This is my point. You indicate, rightfully, that you support McCain and don't support Obama. However, by adding the "and I just don't..." part to that sentence causes the reader to take aback. This projects that you not only disagree with my choice, but implies it's somehow stupid or otherwise invalid.

It's THAT kind of subtlety in language that's causing our nation so much grief. And it's no different than the chucklehead with the sign... it's all about diminishing the others selection and making them feel inferior because of it.

Trust me, it's taken a while for me to realize this was the real problem in our current cultural climate. It's also been around for a long time, but it's really risen to the surface in the last 25 years. Personally, I am finding it to be the 2nd biggest sin from the Reagan years (#1 being politicizing the military).

I disagree with McCain, but I don't disagree with your selection of McCain. It's subtle, I know, but it's important to not insult the others selection.

I remember a conversation with my sister-in-law some 20-odd years ago. I have always been outspoken about the Reagan administration. And it wasn't any different then. As an aside, I know he did a lot of good for this nation, but I am not a fan of deficit spending and the way the GOP took near total ownership of the concept of patriotism. However, my SIL told me I had to honour the president no matter who they were... I respect the POSITION, I don't always agree with the man. That will never change. I am sure there will be policies of Obama that I do not and will not agree with... that's the charm of being American.
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I see what your saying! Yeah, I did not mean to call anyone stupid for thier vote.
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Cool. But that is happening everywhere.

Fox news does it, even CNN. The implied statements are just killing me... And it's not just politics. It's everywhere. It's one thing to make a choice, but to belittle those making them...

I will clarify; some choices are just bad... drugs, drinking/driving... but others are personal preferences, and I don't agree that they should be deminished.

Someone selects a Porsche 911 over a Vette, that's their choice. There is not right or wrong. But a lot of people will belittle that as being un-American.

Others will select an Alpine car stereo over a Pioneer... preference... some will select a Dell over an HP... and I know people who will deminish that choice.

It's really sad...
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Very true. Kinda sad I guess, I think this country has faded far from which it started from. Bad part of that is to get it back to working right I think its going to take some real hard times.
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"I don't expect to go after anyone with a baseball bat..."


What an attention whore. He must stay up at night in a cold sweat haunted by the images of bumper stickers.

I would cover his car top to bottom with Obama stickers if I were them.
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What an attention whore. He must stay up at night in a cold sweat haunted by the images of bumper stickers.

I would cover his car top to bottom with Obama stickers if I were them.


What the sign poster is doing is legal while the suggested corrective measures are not.
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What the sign poster is doing is legal while the suggested corrective measures are not.


I don't care. The sign poster sounds like an ignorant windbag.

How are some of the people parking there supposed to trust that their cars are safe or won't be towed when the sign says otherwise?

What if he stood there with a sign that says "If you support Obama I'm going to steal your car and charge you $300 to get it back."

Is that his first amendment right, to falsely threaten others?
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