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Danspeed1 You Pick 2
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Hello,

I am adding gauges to my vehicle. Assuming the vehicle comes with a fuel gauge, and a coolant temp gauge (and nothing else) what else would you add given the opportunity. I have 3 slots available. One spot is already spoken for; I will be fitting it with an oil pressure gauge. You pick two (not wide-band A/f gauge)...

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Hello,

I am adding gauges to my vehicle. Assuming the vehicle comes with a fuel gauge, and a coolant temp gauge (and nothing else) what else would you add given the opportunity. I have 3 slots available. One spot is already spoken for; I will be fitting it with an oil pressure gauge. You pick two (not wide-band A/f gauge)...

Dan


Depends on what the vehicle is used for.

I like to know:

Rpm
Volts
MPH
Coolant temp
Oil pressure
Oil temp
Vac/Boost
EGT
AFR

-- Joe
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Hello,

I am adding gauges to my vehicle. Assuming the vehicle comes with a fuel gauge, and a coolant temp gauge (and nothing else) what else would you add given the opportunity. I have 3 slots available. One spot is already spoken for; I will be fitting it with an oil pressure gauge. You pick two (not wide-band A/f gauge)...

Dan


Depends on what the vehicle is used for.

I like to know:

Rpm
Volts
MPH
Coolant temp
Oil pressure
Oil temp
Vac/Boost
EGT
AFR

-- Joe


I also want transmission temperature. How about making one gauge a multipurpose gauge. Or maybe add a ScanGauge II somewhere else.
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Oil pressure guages are useless on their own.

Install an oil pressure light.

By the time you notice your oil pressure guage is at zero, your engine will be shot.
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Oil pressure guages are useless on their own.

Install an oil pressure light.

By the time you notice your oil pressure guage is at zero, your engine will be shot.


Very good point. You can do it wuth the water temp too.

It depends what you're installing the gauges for anyway. If it's for looks, it dosen't matter.

If it's for the track, like CC said, warning lites keep your eyes on the track.

The parameters Joe mentioned are good.

Some gauges can drive you nuts, I put a trans temp in one of my older tow vechiles and worried with it because the trans got hotter going up hills,duh. I took it out and just drove the truck.
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Even on my 69, I wired coolant and oil pressure warning lights up to one of the factory lights in the dash. It's basically my version of the "check guages" light. Obviously if you share a light, you need guages too.
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Oil pressure guages are useless on their own.

Install an oil pressure light.

By the time you notice your oil pressure guage is at zero, your engine will be shot.


What about when your oil pressure is 'down' more than normal, but your motor has not started wrapping yet giving you warning to get it out and new bearings/polish rather than cutting the crank or replacing a block because the rod came through the block.

I've caught a few motors early before they exploded when they were idling around 8psi when they used to idle at 40psi. Bearings were worn well past the babbit and it would have started knocking soon.

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Oil pressure guages are useless on their own.

Install an oil pressure light.

By the time you notice your oil pressure guage is at zero, your engine will be shot.


What about when your oil pressure is 'down' more than normal, but your motor has not started wrapping yet giving you warning to get it out and new bearings/polish rather than cutting the crank or replacing a block because the rod came through the block.

I've caught a few motors early before they exploded when they were idling around 8psi when they used to idle at 40psi. Bearings were worn well past the babbit and it would have started knocking soon.

-- Joe


That's my thinking also. I am def. adding the oil pressure gauges, that I already know. I'm just not sure what else is MOST important.

What i like about the oil pressure gauge too is that I am in NY and it gets very cold here during the winter; I like the oil pressure to drop a little before I really drive the car.

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Oil pressure guages are useless on their own.

Install an oil pressure light.

By the time you notice your oil pressure guage is at zero, your engine will be shot.


What about when your oil pressure is 'down' more than normal, but your motor has not started wrapping yet giving you warning to get it out and new bearings/polish rather than cutting the crank or replacing a block because the rod came through the block.

I've caught a few motors early before they exploded when they were idling around 8psi when they used to idle at 40psi. Bearings were worn well past the babbit and it would have started knocking soon.

-- Joe


That's just it, the lites are there to tell you to look at the pressure gauge. The ones I install are adjuatable and i set them at 15.
I've had what you describe happen. In a very slow corner on the track, the lite flicked on right before acceleration. I knew it shouldn't do that.The gauge read 35, should have red 65 (dry sump). Pulled in.
I restarted the motor in the pits, light came on, tap,tap,tap,- spun bearing.
I wouldn't have noticed it as quick without the lite.
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Why not air/fuel?
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Who sells the adjustable oil pressure switches?
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Who sells the adjustable oil pressure switches?


CC, just off the top of my head, www.pegasusautoracing.com has a 20-40 psi oil press. p/n LA4808.

I think the ones we used in the raceshop were from AutoMeter, you may want to check there.
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