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Re: Bogus is published
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There is a fine line between "wrong" and "disagree".


Right, which is why I said you were not wrong, I just don't usually agree with you.

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From a street perspective, yes, the LT1 is a fine engine. From a drag (or even road race) perspective, not so fine.

The performance options are not there for it. But the engine has shown to be durable and reliable, on the street, for lots of miles. More so in many cases than the L98.


Fair enough.

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However, the L98 does have the advantage of being a conventional smallblock. Hense, performance parts are plentiful.

I think the biggest problem is perspective. I am not a drag racer. Period. End of discussion. I do appreciate the hobby, it just isn't me. And as a drag car, the Corvette in general, leaves a lot to be desired. IRS just doesn't cut it for drag racing, and using a car like the Vette or Viper as a drag racer seems like the waste of a damned good chassis... it's like using a 72 Chevelle as an autocrosser, there are better tools for the task at hand.


My points exactly. Totally different world, so when something works for you I might have a totally different opinion about the use, durability, and costs associated with it.

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My perspective is simple: A street car that has more guts than stock, but not so much that it loses its drivability. Is there a practical purpose to that 650hp street car? For the most part, I figure that 500hp is a good max point for the C4, perhaps more for the C5 or C6, but not at the expense of drivability (Z06 and ZR1 prove my point). I have driven tempermental performance cars... it really becomes exhausting, and detracts from the goal - a nice drive.


The.. Problem if you will with the C4 is 500hp reliability.
Between the IRS, weak transmission offerings, and tight packaging and associated costs of things like headers and exhaust.. Well it just isn't cheap to do it 'right'.
24 or 25k in, looking back I coudln't have done it much differently. Speaking to guys like LD85 who have been there too, looking back again heck I think he said it himself "Catback, then stop.." Just not the right platform for super go fast.

Now.. For carving back roads or driving to work. I'd take a LT4 convertible.. I'll just never mod one again..


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Oh, isn't batch and bank-to-bank the same thing? I think we were arguing that all 8 went at once versus 4 at a time. They are all batch until sequential showed up.



Batch is all at once. The ECM doesn't have the ability to fire the banks separate because they are wired to a single driver. Bank to bank is more like 'batches', heh.

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Perhaps this will clarify my place... and if nothing else we can agree to disagree.


Like I said. I have no problems, especially personally. Just different ways of doing things and opinions.

But my original point was, if I posted on here every day that Andy was stupid and didn't know anything about drag cars I wouldn't expect to have a working account. Some guys, maybe not you, but some guys did that when IB took over and the fact is if you bait the owners you should expect to be fished out..

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Re: Bogus is published
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I am not arguing when I ask this question: Are my posts so wrong that you disagree with them that much? Are you that contrary as to wish them to be that wrong? Or was your statement a typo?

I read it and had an issue, but assumed you meant "I don't disagree..."

To be honest, if my tech was that wrong, I don't think I would be running this site...


Not "wrong" per say, I just tend to notice I don't agree with your way of thinking. Sometimes you are wrong too. Like when you insisted the TPI cars were bank-to-bank injector firing and I told you they were batch.

Plus you feel the LT1/LT4 is a good engine. I think it was chevy's mid 90s mistake that was pulled from market just after a few years. Does that make you 'wrong' ? No not at all. I just don't agree with you on that.

Maybe 99.9% is not the right number, but I'm 100% convinced that my idea of a built car is not the same as your idea.


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Re: Bogus is published
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So.. Joe I'm confussed.. you don't agree with 99.9% of what Andy says tech wise. I have gotten 100% good advise tech wise.


I have no personal problems with him. Nor do I have any intentions or arguing with him.

I'm sure other folks on here don't agree with me. Doesn't really matter. I do things my way because it works for me.

I also don't post much anymore, unless it's a generic subject like ECM's or cylinder heads. I still have a bad taste in my mouth for C4's. I have a hard time giving someone tech advice when I really want to say "why the f*** are you spending money on stupid shit like that".. Perhaps the problem is I'm a drag racer.


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Re: Bogus is published
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Joe -

Business IS business... but IB handled the take over of CF much like the Nazi take over of Czechslovakia... with brutal efficency.

They were enforcing the rules of CF with authority and no compassion anymore. It lost its fun.

I can dig back into emails, but the bottom line is that they drove good ppl away in an attempt to create their own insular little world.

It was interesting... some weeks back, my name came up in regards to an article I sent into CE... Several ppl were like, "where did he go" and some answered with vague references to this place. Some of the CF members are so myopic, they would rather I come back than they risk visiting here.

I loved the fact ppl missed me, but gee...

Also, the business model for IB is interesting. It's what makes sites like this worth owning and how we get to set our ad rates.

1. Ppl post.
2. Ppl reply.
3. This happens a LOT.
4. Over 10+ years, you get lots of hits and lots of posts.
5. Everytime someone does a search (yahoo or google), your site is always on the first page.
6. Short of epic disaster, that legacy is always there.

This is how IB leverages the sites they own. They paid real good money to get that legacy. They then came in and cleared out the key ppl who created that legacy. I think that is what pisses me off the most. They wanted the legacy, but didn't give a damn about the ppl who created it.


Maybe I don't see the big picture due to my timeline with CF.. I didn't join CF until I bought a C4, and I sold my C4 within a few years of buying it so I stopped posting on CF. My experience on CF was a few tech guys like LD85, CC, and tequilaboy who I could talk drivetrains and blowers with. And about 99.9% waxer 'tards who can't turn a wrench, and parts guys who think they are engineers.. So from when I joined, during the IB takeover, and as I stopped posting I didn't really see too much 'change'. Sure a few guys got the boot, but it didn't seem to make much difference. The same stupid threads got posted day in and day out. I did notice some of the mods got the boot too, including that idiot who worked for UPS and thought he was god.

Like I said, we had the same takeover on TGO where I have been a member, and moderator for many years. I think I first joined TGO in the late 90s. Didn't have the same impact as your suggesting on CF.. Although, I did notice a few C4 guys popping up on TGO in the last couple years, but I think mainly that is because we have a larger EFI tuning forum.

I pop in here once and a while because I know some of the guys here. My complaint if there was one wouldn't be with the people here but the software is a little strange. I guess after using a certain software on every forum I'm a member of, or moderate this is the one 'odd one'.


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Re: Bogus is published
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Good for us bad for them. I see a lot of people lose their way and then focus. Lot of egos get in the way of good sound practice and judgement. I would think that if people with credability complained then there must be validity to the stated problem. So the bottom line is they never learned to listen!
Thanks for the comment about dad! Erin


It's a business. IB owns lots of sites. People get pissed off when things change. Fact is, the business model works. IB stock has gone up consistently the past 18 months.

When IB took over both sites, thirden.org and corvetteforum.com, both lost a few tech guys. But both also lots a bulk of the idiots, some of which worshipped and followed the good tech guys. They still have some strong tech folks like LD85, PeteK whom also moderates thirdgen.org, mseven, and tequilaboy.

I don't remember why Andy got banned. I know CC got banned frankly because he was baiting them. The mocking IB avatar was the 'last straw' if I recall.

You also can't piss off the owner. I don't agree with 99.9% of what Andy says tech wise, but if I spent all day calling him out what type of warm welcome should I expect on here?


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Re: Stupid question - is this an aftermarket chip? pics inside
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I'm not looking for massive or really any performance gains. I'm just tired of seeing the SES light on for the EGR system.


Ahh. Just edit two constants, and flip a flag.

If you were local i'd burn the chip for you.

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Re: Stupid question - is this an aftermarket chip? pics inside
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It looks like pcmforless does about the same thing as tbiparts does. Except he is about 10 minutes from me and at 1/2 the price. Unless you have heard bad things about him. Plus while I'm there I can get a new map and tps connector.


They're both going to do the same thing.. Change a few constants and take your money..


I don't know what year car you have, but that memcal is out of a '90+. The circuit is for the knock sensor, which was moved from a firewall mounted module to a circuit on the memcal on the '727 ECM.


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Re: 421 almost started but.....
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This does not work with 1985 correct?


The 1 year only '870 ECM is not supported in general. Repin to a '165 or a '730 and enjoy life..

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Re: 421 almost started but.....
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First off, keep it sequential. It's MUCH better than batch for drivability, and since you are on the street, you want that.


That depends on the intake design, and even then it's unlikely anyone would notice it with a cam that has any level of overlap..

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Re: Has anyone done a clutch on a ZF6? OR why I think Centerforce SUCKS!
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No, I'm pretty sure by the noise the pressure plate came apart.


You would be able to tell that one really quick, since your feet would be missing.

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Re: Confirm I bought the wrong exhaust reducer...
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Honestly, i would buy the ball /socket set and cut the flanges off the headers and weld the ball style on there..


I've done the same, and it works great.

Hedman changed all their headers to ball and socket over the last couple of years.

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Re: Bore size of GM head gasket
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Hey Joe,
my concern is with the actual bore size of the GM gasket.
With my engine being .040 over I was concerned about the fire ring being too close to the edge of the cylinder wall. I wasn't sure if the advertised specs on this gasket were a true 4.0 bore size or if in fact it was a little more to allow for any over bore engines.
As far as the thickness, I'm not actually trying for the .51 thickness. This just happens to be what this gasket is.
What I am trying to do is get the best sealing gasket for a simple street driven car. This gasket is the GM replacement for a alum head L98 and I was "leaning" towards using all GM gaskets.
The piston is down in the hole.

Could just go with Fel-Pro #1003 and get on with this.
Any suggestions?
Thanks for the reply
Joel


1003, or a 1010 would be fine. Depending on the cam specs, and how performance oriented it was I might consider getting a gasket to dial the quench in right around .035, or .040 on the high side. If it's just a near stock street car, a 1003 or 1010 should be fine for a 355 with alum heads.

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Re: Bore size of GM head gasket
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Is the GM gasket #12557236 a 4.0 inch bore or is it a 4.10 inch bore size? My engine is 40 over and I'm installing head gaskets because of a small external leak at #5&7.

I know most Fel-Pro gaskets are a 4.166 inch bore size, but I would prefer to use the composition from GM.

I was thinking someone might have actually measured one of the GM's. The parts guys certainly don't have this info.

Thanks
Joel


What is your reasoning behind going with a gasket that has the wrong bore, and has a .051" compressed thickness?

Unless your piston is .015" sticking out of the hole, you don't want those gaskets.

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Re: Skip White Performance
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Hi Gurus.

Need your advise.

I spun a rod last week and have pulled my motor. My LT1 is an Eagle 383 rotating assy. Cast. 5.7 rods. KB Hyper slugs.

I have searched the forums and found many* engine builders that claimed Scat is FAR superior to Eagle (*BLOCKMAN is one).

Any of you heard about them? Dealt with them? Had any dealings with them? Are they trustworthy?

Reason I ask is they deal with both Scat AND Eagle cranks.

They claim that BOTH are equal in quality. That they have sold and built many stroker kits (and engines) using both and have absolutlely no preference.

Funny, but it costs more (up here) to gring my crank than to purchase a replacement, thus the plan to replace.


Scat and eagle are made from the same blanks. Machined in different buildings. Like many others, I've been told by the machine shop that one takes more than the other to balance.

Last rotating assembly I had balanced (august) cost me $125, which was just drilling. In the past I've had cranks that needed tungsten added, which adds to the cost a little bit.

If you still have a record of the bob weight, you could simply have skip balance the crank to that and a stock flywheel.

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Re: Anti-Flex Support Bar /Targa bar
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Just leave the roof on...cheaper.


I keep banging my helmet on it. Also I like to drive with the roof off but notice a lot more chassis movement. Seriously, I am going to have a machinist friend have a go at this project for me and see what he comes up with.


Good luck finding the latch parts.

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Re: Bogus, need your input.....
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Interesting... when my climate controls are off, so is the compressor. I never feel it cycle.


Old car

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Re: Bogus, need your input.....
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as for the compressor, the clutch shouldn't seize, that's odd... but a new compressor and clutch will fix it.


AC clutches seize all the time, especially in parts of the country where AC isn't used much. On newer vehicles, the computer cycles the clutch on and off constantly to keep it from seizing up.

While I have not seen it as pronounced in Dodge, or Ford, I've seen dozens of GM vehicles over the years with seized AC clutches because the owner removed the AC, but left the compressor in place rather than getting a delete pulley.

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Re: Paint
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My next shoot will probably be Summit or Kirker, guys on some forums have had good things to say about Kirker but I've no experience with them. And I can walk n the door and pick up Summit.

Note: Summit's latest tool catalog now has both single stage ( from $82/gal) and 2 stage (from $140). I'll probably try a single stage with clearcoat next. Clearcoat makes for easier cleanup of the tire marks & oil at the track.


The single stage Kirker seems pretty cheap. Wonder how the coverage is.

Either way, I'll be shooting clear over it. One might argue that a traditional bc/cc is better since I'll be performing the same amount of work shooting the clear.

I guess, price is really the big difference. I can't bring myself to pay $200 per gallon of paint.

The summit line has different colors for the single stage vs 2 stage paint.. I kind of like the 'candy apple red' and the 'performance yellow' on the single stage, although I imagine unless the car was absolutely perfectly straight, the yellow would hide better than the red.

I'll sand and guide coat the primer/sealer, but I'm not going to go crazy replacing sheet metal that isn't rusty.



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Re: Paint
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My air compressor which is a 5hp, 20 Gal Coleman oilless unit sprays 6.5 SCFM @40psi and 5.5 SCFM @90psi.
Looks like most HVLP guns require more than that.
Still searching for the right combination.
Oh well, this will make a nice war story some day.


Yep, spray guns are in the "continuous use" catagory like an air sander.
But, your 5 horse will put out enough air until the tank runs down and the compressor kicks on. The compressor ratings are when the compressor is running.

I've done a boatload with my 2horse, 12 gal tank. You just have to wait on the compressor. I can usually get a panel done before the compressor kicks in. It's not that big of a deal.

If you're going to keep the HF, use it to see how long you can shoot before the compressor comes on.


What are you using for paints ?

I'm shopping for paint supplies. I want something that shoots easy, doesn't require a scientist to mix it between coats, and isn't $200 a gallon.

I was looking at the summit stuff lately.

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Re: Tips on part-throttle tuning
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Wouldn't an incomplete burn show up as lean? Incomplete burn = less oxygen used in the burn, so more oxygen in the exhaust. The O2 sensor would see that, and report lean, right?


O2 sensors sees the extra fuel and reports low BLM. It's one of those strange conditions that causes the tuner to keep pulling fuel because the BLM reports like 108 or something silly, and makes the problem worse.


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You know more about than I do, so I'm sure you're right, but I was wondering if you explain the nuts and bolts of it. It seems counter intuitive to me.


The narrowband is not perfect.


Things get all sorts of crazy when you had a big cam into the mix, because the overlap period is havoc on the 02 sensor. Anything with more than 224 degrees duration, I usually just run open loop and get it dialed in with the wideband. While we'd like to think EFI is great for weather corrections and all that, with such modified motor and 80s technology the corrections hurt more then they help.

The true benefit of EFI over CARB is:

1) You can play with crank fueling
2) You can modify timing, idle, fueling without opening the hood
3) You can log RPM vs LOAD vs MPH for WOT fueling at the track, to get an idea of where to add or pull fuel/timing. Since we know that dyno tuning an engine hardly EVER prepares it properly for the track, since a dyno can't accurately simulate progressive load and drag coefficient of an individual vehicle.


"Closed loop" is a great idea, and works well on stock motors. When you go crazy with cams and engine combos it's not reliable.

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Re: Failed my smog inspection...
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Yeah, 1975 is the last year that is smog exempt. And diesels and bikes (so far). In some of the less populated counties, smog is still only required on change of ownership.


Not bad.

No opacity test for diesels? odd. Mass has that.

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Re: Failed my smog inspection...
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The dyno IS the sniffer. In CA (and the states that now follow CA emissions) they put it on the dyno at 15 and 25 mph. The sniffer is attached and they capture the results.


What is the cutoff date? 1967 ?

MA had smog, and abolished it the year I moved to NH. The emissions dyno and all that. They determined that the costs involved with the testing far exceeded any benefit in emissions reduction because the limited amount of pre obdII cars.

What is interesting, is that they also set a rolling point of non compliance for OBD-II cars. In 2008, a 1996 or newer car had to pass. 2009, it was 1997, and now 2010 it's 1998. So now early LS1 cars are even exempt from the 'check engine' or OBD-II check..


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Re: Failed my smog inspection...
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Well, good luck.

But it's F...kin' insane that you have to dyno a car for smog, especially when it passes a sniffer.

Just another form of taxation.


He lives in California. He's lucky they haven't passed legislation to have his car taken away and crushed.

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Re: Tips on part-throttle tuning
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Using an emulator would be the way to go but, unfortunately, I don't have access to another driver so I have to do things the old-fashioned way.

Thanks for the tips on adding advance as the fuel is pulled.


No problem.

LEAN AFR's need more advance to get the fire light than rich AFR's. In fact, a condition with not enough advance will show up as a rich condition on the BLM because of incomplete burn.

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I'm not planning on using a Wideband until I get my feet wet a little.


The wideband is good for WOT tuning, or for tuning a car that is openloop only.

The problem with a wideband, is if you go ahead and dial in the true AFR, while in closed loop, the narrowband sensor is going to change the AFR because it won't agree with the wideband.

You can use the wideband's 'narrow band output', and try to play with the o2 thresholds to get the ECM to play along but I've found it to be futile..

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I've read that starting with getting the VE straightened out first is the way to go - then spark then back to VE.


It's like cat and mouse. I usually get the car fired up and in closed loop, then while running disable closed loop with the 'coolant threshold enable' constant. This turns off the correcting, but allows BLM reporting.

Then I have someone drive, while I directly make changes to the VE table. Choose and RPM and map value that is rich, and take out some fuel. Keep working at it until the BLM is close to 128. The more fuel you take out, try adding some cruise advance. A lean highway cruise in the low 40s is not unreasonable.


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How do you guys get decent data to find the VE changes? Take a long drive then mull over the thousands of data points? Short drives targeting certain regions of the tables? What's the best way you've found to calculate the changes?



10 years ago, I used whatever was available at the time (winaldl, moates, datamaster) to save CSV files, I'd then use my VE spreadsheet to make the conversions, burn a prom, go drive around again and spend all week.

Now, with an emulator, and a pilot, I can dial in a VE table in an hour or two.

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Re: PCM for less
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I wish I would have known about you, maybe you could have burned my chip. FYI no one outside of me ever touches my vehicles, I do everything! but a man has to know his limitations and burning chips is not mine. Thats why I joined this blog to learn from others. Its called life long learning. Now I'm not pissed just amused that anyone would write this. I thought this was a forum to share information and experiences with corvette owners. Wow


This is a forum to share. If you had asked about tuning I'm sure guys would have jumped in and helped. It's not a black art anymore. The information is everywhere.

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Re: PCM for less
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Who pissed on your corn flakes, Joe? I guess everyone should do everything technical on our cars ourselves.


No. But I'm getting sick of reading posts where people give advice on picking camshafts, engine combos, head experts - damn do we have head experts..

YET - the same posters can't dial in an air fuel ratio and timing curve?

Seriously. Think about it.. How the hell could people debate all these combos, timing events of cams, airflow, yet they don't even know how to feed the motor?!?

"GURU" is misleading.

And I had lucky charms this morning, not cornflakes..

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Re: PCM for less
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I don't know if any gurus have tried them but I was really impressed.


Anyone who is considered to be a "GURU" shouldn't be paying someone else to tune their car.

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Re: L98 compression ratio
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The FSM lists the '91 compression ratio as 10.25:1.
The volume of a 350 cylinder is 4"X3.48"=716.7cc.
113 heads have 58cc chambers. 58cc.
Stock head gasket is .050" thick = 10.cc.
Deck hgt. is .025" = 5cc.
Piston eyebrows = 5cc.
Crevice = 1cc.
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Add those numbers and you get 79 c.c.

716.7 divided by 79 = 9.07:1 compression.
I don't get it.


http://members.cisdi.com/~anesthes/comp.html

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Re: ZF6 removal?
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get the car off the ground a ways, no less than 12-15" from the ground to the bottom of the floor jack spot on he rail

It will make the job a lot easier...

Oh, and put a TKO back in, in place of the ZF..


Got a link to your TKO thread?

I can't recall if it has the same bolt pattern as the muncie/t10/sag or if it's specific?

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Re: Mcleod go under?
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I thought B&M bought McLeod sometime back


They bought it from Red.

Then they sold it.

New owners brought Red back onboard.


According to their facebook page, they changed their website:

http://www.mcleodracing.com/

Perhaps the old website was still an asset of B&M ?

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Re: Mcleod go under?
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My machine shop said they have a new owner. The new owner is Paul Lee?. I think that was his name. He is a T/F racer and set up Strasberg Machine as a W/D for them. All this just happened in the last few days. I will know more soon. But they should still be in business... as far as I know... for what it's worth!


Didn't they get sold a few months back, and the 'new owner' bring back red ? I remember seeing a press release.

The web site is DOA right now.

I was curious on some of the specifics of the T56 bell housing adapter, in the event my Mopar trans ever bites it.

Though, I hear a TKO and a mustang driveshaft is a better replacement.

I have a 400 block, drilled for 168 tooth flywheel starter only, and with the big bell housing I'm running I can use a 12" clutch.. If that don't hold the motor, nothing will.

Mechanical linkage. oh yeah.

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The second option without an oven is time......would you have any idea how much time is required for the stuff to out-gas over a period of time....sitting in the sun?


That is a good question. The first time we painted it we shot it in the spring, and it sat on my lift for a month.

Rolled it outside one day, and after 4 hours in the sun had some blisters on the hood! Every spot I fixed with SMC filler had a blister (thank god I took pictures before priming it so I knew where the spots were). So I had to strip all the paint off again, the primer, back down to what it was previously to re shoot it with paint.

Before doing that, we rolled it into the booth and baked it. Few more blisters came out. Then we rolled it out, sanded, etc, baked again, sanded, sprayed.

I don't know how to answer the question, but given the opportunity, I'd leave the sanded and SMC repaired car out in the sun for a few days and hope it fully fully fully cures.


What a nightmare the process was.

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I did mine over a few years ago (2007). Was a bit more challenging, because I did the 91+ bumper swap at the same time, plus I had some cracks I had to fix. A few crappy paint jobs to remove, etc. Took a lot of it down to the SMC, sprayed with a 2k primer/sealer.

http://members.cisdi.com/~anesthes/projects/newpaint/

Came out OK. C4's are kind of a pain in the ass to paint. I had some issues with blisters the first time I shot it, and had to redo it. Found the trick to success was baking the crap out of it before painting, to ensure any areas that were fixed with SMC filler were dry. Once you shoot it with paint, any liquid left in the SMC filler will turn to gas in the hot sun and has nowhere to go.

The fun stuff:

http://members.cisdi.com/~anesthes/projects/sanding/

Was quite a challenge. Most of the fiberglass work I've done was on boats. SMC is like a crappy version of fiberglass. It's like fiberglass powder glued together.

Been painting/bodywork since mid 90s.

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IIRC, baking is at about 100F-135F or so.

Am I on target?


Yes.

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Did mcleod go out of business? Website dead for a week.

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Drop exhaust, remove shifter knob, remove cbeam, unbolt trans and slide it out.

Pretty easy. Only issue is the thing weighs more than the engine...

Never tried it without a lift though..

My new lift has a stupid plate (hydraulic/cable under) which makes using a trans jack a pain in the ass. But at least an SUV/truck can go all the way up without hitting hydraulic lines.


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Searched autozone/advanced/napa/rockauto

I can't seem to get the pressure plate alone. I have to buy it as a kit with the clutch disk.

So with that said, it's $260 for the pressure plate and stock clutch disk from Autozone.

A stock camaro disk is about $100. Centerforce about $150

so say $360-$410 going that route, and having a stock corvette disk laying around. That I could probably sell for $100 shipped, recouping a bit

Or $460 for a Ram from rockauto.

Unless Andy Almighty knows where one could get a pressure plate all by itself...


Andy almighty probably doesn't buy as many clutches as I used to


If you call Fort Wayne clutch and driveline, ask for Scott.
When I had the C4, I had him make me up a dual friction with an unsprung hub. I think it was like $180 for the pressure plate and disc.

I've used his clutches behind very powerful supercharged engines, strip cars, etc. Never a problem. Lot cheaper than RAM or anyone else.

I don't like cutting .090" out of a OEM flywheel because of risk of it warping or exploding, but so far nobody has had one fail so I guess it's ok. When I had my C4, I ran a normal 4+3/sbc flywheel, and ran a ZR1 pivot stud I got from CentralCoaster to make up for the geometry change.


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Canada to Croatia.


Keep in mind, this ignorant American doesn't know where Croatia is.. Still sounds like a strange move..

Location?
National language?
Political system?
National religion?

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Re: IAC valve 87 vs 91 tuning issues
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I am helping a friend tuning his 87 with LT4 hotcam, BBK TB, Trickflow heads and Lingenfelter intake.
He always had trouble shifting into gear (TH700) with stock converter. Now I had enough of "160-full open" IAC counts and send him my spare 91 IAC. Previously he used both of his 87 IACs. Sure enough now the IAC works as it should, but the tune still needs some work.

Now the question. Could it be, that using the 89 ARAP code could have ill effects on the 87 IAC, but working correctly with the 91. I believe 88 was an IAC number change, but was the IAC really a different animal?

Usually I am not a believer in GMs part number system, but this one has left me stumbled.


The wiring was reversed.

This was the topic of debate for a number of years on the diy_prom board at TGO.

I'm not 100% convinced I believe it, but I also can't explain the difference in part numbers on the IAC motors...


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The ECM controls the overdrive solenoid based on several inputs, including the console switch and engine temp.

Here are the miminum coolant temps by year.

84 = 176F
85 = 140F
86-88 = 122F


I don't have a $32B def lying around, I'll have to look more tomorrow. The code isn't present in $6E, which makes sense, since 1989 would be a ZF6..

I'm kinda curious now if they just used the TCC code, or if their is some special stuff in their for the 4+3 OD..

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anesthes wrote:Woah. What application is this!? I know the L98s have no provision for this. Must be a section of code in the LT1 ecm's I wasn't aware of..

O/d engagement on the DNE 4+3 is temp related
Min O/d operating temp varies by year ;
176F on the early cars to 122F on the '87/'88 cars
If temp drops below set point , O/d will kick out or if engine doesn't get hot enough, O/d will never engage.


Hrmm. Interesting. I don't have anything for those settings in my bin definition for $6E, and $32B.

Did the ECM controll the OD on the 4+3 or a different box?

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When I had a "too" cold of one in there....my temps would drop below 160° and the O/D would kick out....I'd have to drive a mile and get the temps back up for the O/D to work again.


Woah. What application is this!? I know the L98s have no provision for this. Must be a section of code in the LT1 ecm's I wasn't aware of..


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Does anyone know what effect a 160 degree thermostat will have on milage?


Unless you know what you are doing, stick with stock.

Lots of back to back testing has shown, running the coolant temp around 180 degrees on Iron heads makes the most power with more spark advance, and a leaner mixture.

Aluminum heads, seem to like it to be around 200f.


If you can regulate the fans to keep the engine (assuming alum heads) around 200f, you can run a little more spark advance, and dial in a slightly lean WOT AFR and make more power. If you care.


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My biggest complaint with any of them is the poly locks back off. No matter how hard you crank down that allen, it seems sometimes they just back off. Over the years I've had a few pushrods, on different motors, get bent.
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Now I'm concerned. My mechanic said that after tightening the set screw he gives a final "bump" to the nut with the wrench.


Me too.. I think it depends on the polylock. I've had them back off no matter how tight I made 'em..

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I saw Summit has these on sale:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-G6938-16/

I need to pick up roller rockers for my build. Heads are 3/8 stud, non self aligning (has guideplates), centerbolt vcs. I can hardly find any information about them. Some guys claim they are made by scorpion, I can't verify that. Anyone running these or have any personal experience with them?

Matthew


I ran them for a couple years on my C4.

I don't think they are scorpion, but they look like every other set of chinese rockers:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SBC-CH ... uckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories


A number of years ago, I ran these on a supercharged motor:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1-6-3- ... uckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories


I had some good luck with them. The only concern is the weight of the rocker might be a bit more than the valve spring can handle on a high rpm application. I shifted the car at 6k.. Not sure how they would be at 6500.


My biggest complaint with any of them is the poly locks back off. No matter how hard you crank down that allen, it seems sometimes they just back off. Over the years I've had a few pushrods, on different motors, get bent.


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My tune is off right now and Im averaging 16.5mpg with mostly light driving. I just opened up the exhaust so maybe that will get better.


I'm not an expert on the '85 ECM, but on the other MAF, and speed density ECM's in the C4 they would eventually learn the fuel correction.

Tuning could fix stuff like AE transition, spark related issues, and a host of other things. But part throttle cruise really is going to be corrected by the 02 and the ECM will keep the corrections in memory. Unless you force open loop, or change your 02 thresholds to force a 'leaner than stock' condition, I don't expect your fuel economy to change all that much for 'normal' cruise driving.

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For all intents and purposes, I have done the LSx conversion... and it is expensive!

Now, to define what I have done:

* LTCC - $399.00
* LS1 coils - $600.00 (I don't remember, will have to check archives)
* Taylor wires - $60.00
* 2nd LTCC harness - $125.00 - this was because the belt grabbed and kill the original
* DynaSpark without cap/rotor - $495.00
* Cool aluminum brackets for coils - $130.00
* Misc Opti harness bits - $80.00

Total: $1829.00

EFI Connection has a cute thing called "Quick Quote" with outlines all the bits you need for that job.

For an 1985-92 Camaro, they quote $1815... however that harness is a different animal and you would have to talk to them.

As for all the work I have done, the smog numbers are impressively low. I still have a stock engine, but next year, when I rebuild, we will see how well this combo works out!


That is a lot of money. I understand the merit, but $1800 can buy a supercharger or something else.

When I lived in MA, and we uses the California emissions standards on the dyno (im240 or whatever they called it) I had tuned out some pretty impressively low part throttle, idle, cruise tailpipe numbers.

I think for his car, he can do what he wants for under $200.

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Another option is repin it to a '730 ECM and run a map sensor. You can use the faster ECM, still stick it up in the dash. You would loose the fuel economy stats in the dash however.

The LSx stuff sounds fun in discussion until you actually go shopping for what is needed to do it. I see people always bring it up in the forums, but never the same people that actually bought the stuff. It gets very expensive. If you do want to go that route, there is a few guys on my board that have done it.

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LE cams all have tight lsa's. what is it doing that you doint like about it?


More overlap, confuses the narrowband 02.

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