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Posted on: 2009/8/4 18:28
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Posted on: 2009/8/4 19:43
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pianoguy | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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Wow - prayers and mojo to all involved!
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Posted on: 2009/8/4 20:16
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BillH | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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"No Where To Go", things happen fast. Things like this should make HPDE drivers think about cages and full safety harnesses.
Hope everone's OK. |
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Posted on: 2009/8/4 20:28
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bogus | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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wow.
That's insane. I am hope the injuries are minor. It says a lot for the structure of the cars and the GSRs. |
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Posted on: 2009/8/4 21:55
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BillH | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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Yea, you get a lot of guys whining about the cage specs in the SCCA GCR right up until something like this happens. |
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Posted on: 2009/8/5 0:48
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CentralCoaster | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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That's unfortunate.
Even if he saw the yellow flag right away, the guy in front sorta left him hanging by swerving at the last second. Not his fault, just everything was in the wrong place at the wrong time, and even the flag man is pretty far off course and not in the line of sight. I really hate the local cautions for this reason, the race is still going, so nobody wants to lose time, they only let up if they are trying to avoid a wreck. The yellow flag basically means, "potential death ahead, stay in the throttle" |
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Posted on: 2009/8/5 0:55
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BillH | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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The yellow flag is very obvious. As a race driver, you should have the situational awareness to catch yellow flags easily.
Anybody can miss one but mose drivers with experience don't. It's usually the novices that miss flags. And if you do, you can be sure you're going to get stopped at tech and have a little talk at the end of the race. In NASA and SCCA you will DQ'ed for passing under a yellow (as it should be). Very,very few drivers in NASA and SCCA keep their foot in it and you see a lot of hands come up. HPDE's are a different world, guys miss flags all the time sometimes because they want to run with as few rules as possible. A bunch of them even miss the checkered. At the last 24 hours of Lemons, one "driver" (no rece license req'd) missed a black flag for 15 laps. |
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Posted on: 2009/8/5 1:59
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CentralCoaster | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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And that's why lemons racin be grate.
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Posted on: 2009/8/5 4:59
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Matatk | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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Very unfortunate and quite a scary video. Best wishes for the drivers' recoveries.
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Posted on: 2009/8/5 13:03
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CentralCoaster | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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I don't see anybody lifting in that vid. |
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Posted on: 2009/8/5 14:51
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BrianCunningham | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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Another view, (at 9:11) of the Lotus's spin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=So6Gwfd5STM |
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Posted on: 2009/8/5 14:55
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CentralCoaster | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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Kinda wierd spin. Doesn't look like he was close enough to make contact, but it looks like he dropped a wheel and that upset the car enough to lose it, either that or a downshift or he got on the throttle, which would surprise me since he was in a pinch.
Nice vid setup there, he's got the wide angle and the quality is pretty good without taking forever to download. What's the deal with the slow Miatas? I assume they weren't up to speed, that's kinda scary coming up on them with that much speed. |
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Posted on: 2009/8/5 18:18
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BrianCunningham | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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An update on Ken Payson (Miata):
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From the driver (Ken) himself, well enough to post on the board Quote: kenpayson wrote the following post at 08/05/2009 7:26 PM: Time to look into getting a HANS! |
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Posted on: 2009/8/5 19:11
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BillH | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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They're just that slow. |
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Posted on: 2009/8/5 19:36
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CentralCoaster | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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Ugh. I figured they'd have different classes or something. So can I sign up with my pickup and be a rolling roadblock?
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Posted on: 2009/8/6 0:21
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BillH | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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It would be great if each class could have a separate race. It does happen sometimes, like Spec Miata in N.Calif., which can see 60+ entrys these days. It all depends on the number of cars entered in each class. You can only fit 5 to 7 run groups in a 2 day race. So you have to combine classes with lower entrys with each other to maximize the track usuage. 5 years ago in Norcal, the Formula Fords had their own class/race, 40 entrys. This dropped off and the FFs have to run with the Formula V's and F500s, both rolling roadblocks. When the economy's good it gets hard to fit all the cars in anyway. 6 or so years ago, Laguna Seca had 529 entrys and they had to turn people away because the pits were totally full. Miatas,rolling roadblocks, yep, they're slow compared to most on the track. An EVO will always blow away a Miata like the vid. I'd much rather be in the faster car in a combined class than the slower. It gets really insane in a NASA endurance race if you're in a Miata and the car on the pole is a Rolex Daytona Prototype and there's 80+ cars on the track. |
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Posted on: 2009/8/6 13:41
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CentralCoaster | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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Geez, just watching Oli blow by me in the esses at the track in his T1 Corvette was interesting enough. I sure as hell don't want Formula Fords of Formula anythings bearing down on me.
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Posted on: 2009/8/6 17:42
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BrianCunningham | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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They typically separate run groups as much as they can
formula car together - FA, FC, FF, FV Big bore cars together - GT1, SPO, T2, T2 Small bore together - Spec Miata, ITA, ITB there's only some much track time available for the club to race though, so the split can only go so far. |
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Posted on: 2009/8/6 18:28
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BillH | Re: Lime Rock National - Terrible accident, our prayers for the drivers | ||
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Race Groups for San Francisco SCCA this year:
1- FF,CF,FV 2- ITE,ITX,RX7,T2,T3,SSB-C,STO,STU 3- FA,FB,FC,FM,FE,FS,S2,ASR,CSR,DSR 4- GT1,GT2,GT3,GTL,GTA,SP,AS,EP,BSR,T1,NL,N3 5- ITS,ITA,ITB,ITC,ITR,FP,HP 6- Spec Racer Ford 7- Spec Miata Groups 6 & 7 have enough entrys to have their own race. It takes a damn good crew to get all these races run within the time limits. 250 cars showed up for the June race at Laguna. |
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Posted on: 2009/8/6 23:07
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