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RE:1984 Water Pump
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The Problem with a water pump is, sometimes the weep hole doesn't wear out while driving around in town, then you try to go somewhere and it goes out on you while you are 100 miles away from home.
Weep hole wear out??? The Gen IIs and their optisparks are a different story, but on a Gen I engine, especially our C4s with the electric fan, seldom is a water pump failure catastrophic. Usually you get plenty of warning with a few drops on the floor, and often, for quite a while. OK, so you had a water pump suffer a sudden inconvenient failure. Certainly, it CAN happen. One way to avoid preventive maintenance and replace parts before failure is to trade it in every year or two. Like I said a couple of posts back, "I have a hard time getting into this "It's getting old, so I'd better replace it" mentality." And especially with a ECT sensor isn't going to leave you by the side of the road.

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RE:350 L-98 block questions
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:withstupid]The different type seal cranks have different crank flange bolt patterns and a different type of balance[/quote]

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So if a complete, assembled, balanced 2 piece rear main seal engine was built or bought, it could be dropped right in place of a 1 piece rear seal engine?
As long as "complete" includes a flywheel or flex plate for your application, YES.

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RE:1984 Water Pump
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And SOMETIMES you are right. However, if you replace it, you'll never know. Also you lose the opportunity to save a buck and enjoy a parts extended life.

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Re: 1984 Water Pump
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Hey folks I'm getting ready to change the water pump in my 84. It's not leaking yet but it's sounding like it will soon.
What DOES a water pump that is about to start leaking, sound like?

After 24 years and 165,000 miles I am still using the factory ECT sensor. I have a hard time getting into this "It's getting old, so I'd better replace it" mentality. PM is one thing, but the wholesale replacement of anything that MIGHT fail, is a bit extreme.

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RE:350 L-98 block questions
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If you run a 2 piece rear main seal block in your vette I think you need to buy some sort of adapter to use the stock trans, I'm not sure there either tho because that is something else I haven't done myself. Maybe a search will give you more info on that.
No! No! No! The different type seal cranks have different crank flange bolt patterns and a different type of balance, but any trans that works with one works with the other.

A post on the "other forum" says to convert a 2 bolt block to a splayed 4 bolt, cost him approx $600.00, parts a labor, so it is not an operation to be taken lightly. Converting a factory 4 bolt to splayed would cost even more. Some people toss around the splayed caps suggestion as if it were like changing spark plugs. It ain't. For that kind of money you are about 1/4 to 2/3 the way to an after market Hi PO block, like World, Dart, Bow Tie, etc. And that isn't ALL the machining, just the main caps.

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RE:OK, need some help
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Knocking at idle, not under load is probably not detonation or pinging. More likely something is hitting on something else. Exhaust system? Double check your timing. Retarded timing can cause header tubes to glow red.

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RE:350 L-98 block questions
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[web]http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showpost.php?p=1564136455&postcount=2[/web]

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RE:Advice on Fans
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Thanks dan0617. The proposed 210° on and 200° off is a good starting point. A lot depends on the thermostat. Like Dan said, his 185° off temp is a little low, especially if his engine wants to run at 185° to 190° on summer days. I have a 206° on and 196° off, with a 180° thermostat and my fan rarely runs. As an illustration, if Dan had the stock 195° stat, his fan would never shut off. With his 180° stat, 195° to 200° would be a better shut off temp. Also a spread of 10° between the on and off temps seen to be a smart minimum. I thought of posting earlier, but I don't know exactly how your two speed fans work.

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RE:Is the water heater shut off valve required?
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My car had the water shutoff valve bypassed and removed over 21 years ago. There have been no adverse effects.

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RE:Aluminum radiators, can be fixed?
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I didn't know they would work on the plastic tank ones.
Two different rad shops have worked on mine. This last time I suspected a trans cooler failure, and when he got it apart he said the right side tank was shot, so he replaced it.

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RE:Aluminum radiators, can be fixed?
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I still have my original 24 year old radiator core and it does a great job of cooling. I have had two plastic tanks replaced and I have had no other problems. I can't tell you if one side was replaced twice or if it was once for each side. The last tank was probably replaced 6 - 8 years ago.

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RE:Aluminum radiators, can be fixed?
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A stock radiator? A hole on the aluminum core? Check with the local radiator shop to see if they can repair it. If it is in one of the plastic side tanks, they can be replaced.

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RE:Chrome Plating
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I stand corrected. Sorry.

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RE:Manual Cooling Fan Switch
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Do the fan relays switch the fan motor grounds or the 12V side?
The secondary side of the relay is fed 12 volts from a fusible link. The primary side is hot only with the ignition on. When the computer grounds the primary side, the relay closes and the secondary side sends the 12 volts from the fusible link to the fan motor, which has it's own ground. In short, "the 12V side".

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RE:Having electrical problems - ECM or CCM failing?
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Pull ALL of the codes and follow the trouble shooting charts in your [color=darkblue:306d79576b]FSM[/color:306d79576b], starting with the lowest codes and working your way up. It is unlikely that either the ECM or CCM is the problem. Unless you know these cars, inside and out, backward and forward, any other method is just wasting time and money.

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RE:Chrome Plating
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Isn't the A/C compressor bracket aluminum or pot metal? I have no clue as to what your smog pump eliminator bracket is made of. You can't chrome plate aluminum or pot metal. They can be anodized or painted/powder coated.

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Re: hooker in my car?
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Quote "cmashark". "i went to the exotic muscle website and noticed that they have the ceramic hooker long tubes with smog and the y pipe for a livable price. now the only mods i really planned on doing under the hood was a set of 1.6 roller rockers. do you think i will get any real benefit from these headers or should i just drill and replace my studs? does anybody have any experience with these headers?

ESPECIALLY with a near stock engine and for a driver, you will see a much greater performance increase with headers that have 1 5/8" primary tubes, over those 1 3/4" Hookers. There are several outfits that offer them. The most economical are Hedman Hedders. Unless you are rock bottom on funds, it would pay to spring for their Elite line of headers with the thicker flanges, tubing, and ceramic coating, rather than the bargain basement specials.

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RE:ignition timiming
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Please explain. (checking timing)because all I know is how to set base timing.My mistake ,I thought it would be like a non-efi when it come to checking total advance.
When you check the advance curve and total timing with a mechanical advance distributor, you disconnect the vacuum hose from the vacuum advance cannister and read the centrifugal advance. At WOT you have no vacuum so whatever the centrifugal advance does, is what you get. How are you disabling the "vacuum advance" with your computer controlled distributor? You can't. The TPS isn't sending a 100% throttle reading to the computer, the MAP isn't reading 0 (ambient) manifold pressure, the MAF isn't reading the air flow that WOT would produce at the same rpms. Unless you can read the chip, to see how it is programmed, the only way to check your WOT ignition timing curve is on the fly. A recording scanner might do it, but just hooked up, in the garage, it will only give you what you get with the timing light, which is meaningless.

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RE:GM Parts price differences. Where is the cheapest place....
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I need the tilt column housing. Its the part circled in the last part of the write up that I followed. Its not very boig or real heavy, maybe 4-5 lbs?
Thansk jeff
Have you looked HERE? they show:
Part Number: 26017735 List Price Core Price Your Price
Steering column - Housing kit Housing kit, corvette 1992 - 1993
$541.13 $0.00 $397.90

Kind of pricey. I'd be looking for used.

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RE:ignition timiming
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I am saving this forever!!
Just because we agreed on something? Despite all of your picking on me, I think we agree more than we disagree.

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RE:ignition timiming
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Fair enough,I dont have a chip reader but I do have access to a snapon scanner.Its a few years old and has not been updated since about '96,but it still seems to work fine.Thanks
How would a scanner tell you total timing any better than a timing light? Have you thought any of this through?

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RE:700R manual valve body question
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Hey CFI, what wattage is that avatar? Every time you post my light bill goes up. Have you considered fluorescent?
THAT IS FUNNY!!! I'll see of I can find a CFL to fit in there. Here goes another kilowatt.

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RE:ignition timiming
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Because I own a timing light. The 36 to38 is a guess based on other information I have gathered.
You can't READ total timing with a timing light on a computer controlled car. That is why I asked if you had a chip reader.

"I'am not looking to cause an argument only seeking out all the info I can get so that the combo will be well sorted and proform at its best." I can can give you the best of both.


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RE:Timing Chain ?
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Are you two neighbors?
Based on the info below the avatars, it looks like it. I am not aware of our ever having met.

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RE:Anyone ever heard of a siezed/spun cam bearing?
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Hey man, my camera is state of the art! At least it was in 1995 when I bought it, lol.
There is nothing wrong with a state of the art 1995 camera. All you need now is a 1995 photographger.

Kudos, again, for the thumbnail treatment.

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RE:ignition timiming
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because at 6*it's full advance@3000rpm and 42* I think it should be around 36 to38 total.
hOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? dO YOU HAVE A CHIP READER?

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RE:Anyone ever heard of a siezed/spun cam bearing?
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:withstupid]COULD[/i] have better lighting to bring out all the details, and they could be in better focus, for the same reason, especially fully expanded. BUT what is so great is the thumbnail feature. You have HUGE pictures, too huge, in my opinion for the focus, but with the thumbnail feature, they don't stretch and distort the format. Also, being that huge, they took too long to down load, but another great feature of THAT thumbnail, is the size was noted on the thumbnail, so a guy knew what he was in for before he clicked on it. I'm signing up with Image Shack immediately. Until the new programming arrives, something like that ought to be mandatory on this forum.

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RE:hydraulic roller cam install /product questions
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Use a cam for a 1987 and up roller cam engine, the timing set for the same and the stock retainer plate with the two bolts. You don't need any of those fancy, expensive, retro roller cam parts in the catalogs.

If you suspect the cam will be weak on the bottom end, like you were told, advance it. If you think it will be lacking on the top end, retard it. Better yet, buy the right cam for the job and degree it in, straight up.

Aligning the dots is much easier with the cam sprocket dot at 6:00 o'clock. It doesn't matter if the cam sprocket dot is at 12:00 or 6:00. At 12:00 the engine is on TDC at the start of the #1 cylinder power stroke. At 6:00, it is the #6 cylinder that is starting the power stroke. Once the cam sprockets are installed. if you want #1 at TDC, rotate the crank one turn.

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Re: Yarns of a sweater
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AFPR: It seems to me that with a stock computer, that if one were to adjust the fuel pressure up that he would see a rich condition in open loop. But once the computer closes the loop it would detect the rich condition and lean out the FAR by shortening the injector pulse.
YEP! That is an analog solution to a digital problem. The computer keeps the A/F ratio correct for the 95% of your driving, but allows the mixture to go rich when you go into the open loop PE mode at WOT. The higher pressure can cause a better atomized spray from the injectors, but proper programming can accommodate the injectors and the fuel pressure you really need.

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24# injectors: Same as above. Open loop = rich. Closed loop = normal. Except that I wouldn’t think larger injectors would not make their optimum spray pattern at standard fuel pressure.
As you said...Same as above. Depending on the level of power that can be produced, the BMFC of your engine will tell you how much fuel and what size injectors will get the job done.

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Larger Throttle Body(TB): Again it seems that unless the stock TB is restrictive that increasing its size could actually yield a lower intake velocity and hurt performance.
The engine is an air pump. If the TB isn't a restriction you can leave it alone.

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Larger MAF: Same as TB but if the comp is getting bad data, isn’t it going to return to normal operation once it relearns the BLMs?
Same as TB.

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I suspect they reduce power and increase ETs. Has anyone ever done a dyno run before and after a MSD install? What about ¼ mile times?
Most after market ignitions are capable of putting out more power than the stock ignition. But since a stock or mildly modified engine will never meet or exceed the capability of the stock ignition, the fancy, expensive stuff is a waste. Remember a coil won't put out any more voltage than necessary to jump the plug gap, regardless of the potential. I would argue that a good ignition system would reduce power or hurt ETs, but they won't help in most cases, either.

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If tricking the computer into making different choices is the goal of some of the above modifications then why don’t people put in trick O2 sensors that will always read lean or engine coolant temp sensors that will always read cold?
That is the wrong way to approach the subject. Don't try to fool the computer with false input. Program the computer to do what you want with true, correct input. Otherwise, you will soon be tricking and out smarting, yourself.

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Years ago I read an article that said one should always take a comprehensive approach to performance tuning. The idea of one thing changing the performance was shunned and the idea of custom chip/bin was put forward as the only way to make sure that the common modifications will yield actual results.
And all the modifications should be carefully coordinated to work together toward a single performance objective.

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RE:Starter bolts of all things
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I'm set...for now. But thanks. Hang on to them. Someone will be needing them.

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RE:Starter bolts of all things
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I have the 'GM' mini bolts which dont fit, the aftermarket ones use an oddball size I guess.
I didn't note it in my post, but that bolt fits, Corvettes, from 1984 through 1990. That should include both the large, old style starter, and the later L98 stock "mini" starters.

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RE:Starter bolts of all things
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Stock bolts from the parts book:

"14057900 Bolt, Attach (HFH 3/8" 16 X 4.65" W/Knurl 280M PZOR.)"

I always thought the mini starters were engineered to use stock starter bolts. Maybe not,

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RE:700R manual valve body question
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I agree with how that sounds. When I had my million dollar rebuild, I was asked if I wanted manual shift or not. I said "No" and they looked at me like I had two heads. I can't imagine they were asking me to give up the OD. As it is, my trans shifts when I move the lever if the revs are above the stock shift points, but it shifts for itself if left in 3rd or OD. That's the best of both worlds, for me. For the technical and definitive answer, I have to refer you to the expert. I'll be interested in PeteK's reply.

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RE:hydraulic roller cam install /product questions
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The number of main cap bolts has nothing to do with the cam installation. At the beginning of the post you say "installtion of a hydraulic roller cam in a 4 bolt block.", without mention of whether it is a roller cam block or not. Later you say, without the benefit of capital letters, "i noticed that on my 4 bolt roller block". If you really have a roller cam block, just install a stock style roller cam using stock roller cam parts. Easy!

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[quote]And here, I was only thinking of more power. What is wrong with me? :tard]Me too! And the potential for great power is there, but if you are going to get the automotive manufacturing giants of their dead and dying... to develop something, there had better be a bigger motivation than a bunch of hot rodders. Something like the EPA???

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the R&D behind this has been mind boggling. The #1 reason the automakers are pursueing it is for savings...
There is more than just cost savings involved. Think of the fuel mileage of an engine that is constantly running in it's most efficient, "sweet spot". With a "cam" timed for the conditions, the emissions could be incredibly low, also.

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Have you ever thought of going farther with that idea? See if it is invented or patented yet, and if not, pursue it yourself?
I only WISH I could take credit for the idea. It may take a while, but you'll see it. The concept has been around for ages. I also have a mental picture for a desmodromic valve system. Born 30 years too late.

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RE:Service engine light
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Fixed it. Didn't have my pixel ruler handy!
What did you do? Lose your right mouse button? (Right click, then select "properties" to check the pixel size). You couldn't SEE how that impossibly and unnecessarily wide picture made you pan across the screen to read a post?

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You are a piece of work. Who pissed in your corn flakes today
Apparently you missed the multi-day global discussion that has been taking place over picture size. Pass your corn flakes this way. I'll fix 'em up for you.

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RE:Timing Chain ?
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Im used to his comments so it doesn't bother me.
I should hope not. I took the time to figure out the "Vauge" (sic) question and gave you a proper answer.

The "Automotives 101" was an honest and timely suggestion, also.

The timing components (chain and sprockets) give no warning before failure. That can just break. It is a rare occurrence, but it happens. Unless you have X-ray vision, there is no way to check for cracked or broken teeth, short of doing all the labor involved in the replacement of the parts. At somewhere around 150,000 miles I checked my timing set for slop. It had about 12° of free play. I decided that was enough and went ahead and changed it. All of the plastic cam sprocket teeth were in good shape and showed no signs of impending failure. It was simply a matter of a stretched timing chain.

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RE:Transmission question
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it is a specialty valve designed to correct the original design which won't allow full throttle upshift to OD.
The Corvette version of the 700R4 is one that allows the full throttle 4th gear upshift. Most others don't.

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Havent' they already done this on a production car? Electronic valves?
Not that I am aware of, but it certainly could be.


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I have to say that your avator is by far the most revolting one I have ever seen. I hope that is not on your body!


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Re: 350 Buildup
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Is there a one stop shop for all parts to build 383 from this block, I have checked search options seems like many good post but not any w/ the whole story.
In the first part of that sentence you ask about a single source for the parts to convert a 350 to a 383. In the second half you say your search (for parts?) doesn't give you the whole story. What does that mean? Summit, Jegs, sellers on eBay, and literally dozens of outfits offer 383 rotating assemblies.


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The more cats I read the more confused I get.
What is it that you are confused about?


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Am told by many just put crate eng in but that offers little satisfaction. Thanks for any help Craig
It may pay to make a honest, and realistic assessment of the situation. Will there be satisfaction seeing several thousands of dollars melt down between your frame rails?

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RE:Timing Chain ?
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We can always count on you to bust somebody's chops huh CFI? whip :tongue5:
Even though CFI was doin' that, He was right. Auto 101 is probably a good idea.
Talk about busting chops! You bust mine and then go on to say it was a good suggestion and even facilitate it. I think I saw this thread in the dictionary under hypocrisy! Some people just can't pass up an opportunity to take a cheap shot, even if they agree with the thought.

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RE:Service engine light
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interesting. I thought the 90 ECU was smart enough to
find that.

I know the 92 is and I woulda sworn I had read that the 90 did the same
thing.

I will check...
At least he'll end up with a new EGR valve, whether he needed it
or not. Let's hear it for throwing money at the problem. Any problem.
Only fools waste time diagnosing problems.

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RE:Service engine light
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Is it really necessary to stretch this whole thread with a 1024 pixel wide
picture of an EGR valve?

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I think I might leave it that way too since you didn't ask nicely. :tongue:
I wasn't talking to you. I was addressing the inconsiderate boob that posted it.

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RE:Timing Chain ?
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So what are the signs that it is breaking?

Second, if you replaced your timing chain but it was installed incorrectly in some way, would it not destroy itself on start up or would it take awhile to break?

How much does a good one cost?
Time for Automotives 101.

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RE:Tubing bender and flaring/barb tools... Which ones to get?
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You screwed something up when you posted. CFI-EFI said no such thing.

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Incidently, the little single and double 'ear' crimp-style hose clamps seen
on euro and asian cars are known as Oetiker Clamps. With proper care,
they can be reused multiple times.

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Those are NOT my words. Please review the thread to attribute then to the proper source.

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Re: Timing Chain ?
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The timing chain drives the camshaft. That is it. The chain can stretch over tome and the sprockets an wear. A new timing set replaces worn sprockets and a stretched chain, for more accurate valve and ignition (on Gen I engines) timing.


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Is there a pully near the cover for the chain and if it is misalighned or wearing out, it could rub a hole in the chains casing/cover causing the oil to leak out and lock your motor up? Vauge description
"Vauge" at best. There is no pulley that typically causes problems, but if the inertia ring on your vibration damper should break loose, it could walk rearward and wear into your timing cover. Any resultant oil leak should be rather slow. Oil on the floor and normal, periodic, dipstick checks should prevent any engine damage.

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Ticking sucks but the description is perfect. I always wondered how.....and what....with injectors. Now I knoooooow. Thanks CFI.
An amazing and versatile device, the solenoid. Wait until the camshaft is replaced by solenoids, one for each valve. You will be able adjust your duration, lobe centers, overlap, etc, by programming with your laptop. You will be able to have short duration for strong low rpm torque, gradually blend into a wild, long duration, grind for all out top end power. It will be the ultimate variable valve timing device.

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RE:Tubing bender and flaring/barb tools... Which ones to get?
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Beats using the flaring tool to jury rig a make-shift single-rib 'barb' directly on the metal tube
Ya think? That is a lot of hardware to get a "single-rib 'barb'" smaller than one produced by a half, double flare.

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