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flyboy | super grade bolts? | ||
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I found this chart among my dad's things. Never heard of grade "super" fasteners. Aerospace industry, maybe? Must have been used on the "Encabulator".
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BrianCunningham | Re: super grade bolts? | ||
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must have been to hold in a "full race" cam
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Posted on: 2009/11/24 22:51
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Aboatguy | Re: super grade bolts? | ||
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Wow first time I seen or heard of a super grade fastener. What year is the print date on the craftsman chart?
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Posted on: 2009/11/24 23:37
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CentralCoaster | Re: super grade bolts? | ||
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Hmm. That shows ASTM A574 bolts as 20% stronger than grade 8. But it applies to socket head cap screws. |
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Posted on: 2009/11/25 1:26
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flyboy | Re: super grade bolts? | ||
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No print date, but the back side has torque specs for Sears motorcycles. Remember them?
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Posted on: 2009/11/25 1:52
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Matatk | Re: super grade bolts? | ||
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How can you call bs? That card is probably 50 years old. When did the bolt sizes/strength indexes become standardized? Perhaps in the 50s/60s - whenever that card is from, that was an available bolt. There are bolts currently stronger than grade 8 now, they just have different names than "super grade". As far as the OP, neat find. Matthew |
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CentralCoaster | Re: super grade bolts? | ||
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Posted on: 2009/11/25 15:40
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Matatk | Re: super grade bolts? | ||
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Look at the chart you posted.
proof load Yield Strength Tensile Strength SAE J429 Grade 8 120,000 130,000 150,000 A490 120,000 130,000 150,000 min ASTM A490 170,000 max OR ARP head bolts that are claimed to be 15 % stronger than grade 8 (170,000 psi). OR 8640 alloy bolts: 180,000 - 190,000 psi tensile strength http://www.f911.com/fore2.html http://www.f911.com/fore2b.html OR Various manufacturers in the machine industry producing bolts for different applications OR European standards Metric 12.9 yield strength 156,000 tensile 175,000 Here's a good article: http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavi ... lts/Nuts&Bolts_signed.pdf Matthew |
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CentralCoaster | Re: super grade bolts? | ||
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Some good info in that last article, I'll read it in depth later.
I know there's stronger bolts out there, but it's ridiculous to refer to "super alloy" on a chart. Sears doesn't make bolts and there is no super alloy. There is no such standard either, so I have no idea who'd use that chart for anything. If you're using a kryptonite bolt from ARP, use ARP's chart. Those 8640 alloy bolts have a bunch of standards listed, which I guess might impress someone that doesn't know what they mean, but the only meaningful one is that they comply with the ASTM Class 12.9 standard. All the other standards listed just refer to dimensions, or Grade 8 standard which is weaker. So basically they sell SAE bolts that meet the Class 12.9 strength standard. |
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Posted on: 2009/11/25 21:10
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