Become a Fan!
Login
Username:

Password:

Remember Me

Lost Password?

Register now!
Main Menu
Who's Online
207 user(s) are online (148 user(s) are browsing Forums)

more...
Guru Dictionary
Print in friendly format Send this term to a friend  ZF6
A 6-speed manual transmission, standard from 1989 to 1996.

Very stout.

There are two distinct versions, the original “Black Tag,” 1989-E1...
Supporting Vendors
Platinum
Mid America Motorworks
Mid America Motorworks FREE CATALOG


Gold
FIC 770-888-1662


Registered Vendors
Guru Friends
Supporting Banners

TIRERACK.com - Revolutionizing Tire Buying


Shop for Winter Tires Now!




Support This Site
 Register To Post

Jeffvette Knockoff Vs. Real
Elite Guru
Not on CF
1297 Posts
Member since:
2007/12/29 0:00



Offline
I'm going apeshit over this stuff. Finding knockoff parts that are being labeled as OEM, or "Ref to part #xxx". The line is becoming so fine that it's almost hard to tell anymore. I'm suspecting some manufacturing companies are spitting out real deal and then selling some on the side as well.
Posted on: 2010/1/14 3:08
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer

bogus Re: Knockoff Vs. Real
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah
San Pedro, CA
20859 Posts
Member since:
2005/9/7 0:00



Offline
GM would cut off their nads for that... it's a breach of contract.
Posted on: 2010/1/14 3:49
_________________
The single biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has taken place. - George Bernard Shaw

Education is the best tool to overcome irrational fear. - me

Transfer the post to other applications Transfer

CentralCoaster Re: Knockoff Vs. Real
Senior Guru
San Diego, CA
9454 Posts
Member since:
2007/10/28 0:00



Offline
It's done all the time.

I bought a non-oem oem radiator. It was the same except the GM except that part was melted out of the molding. The OEM manufacturers all sell their own labeled stuff too.
Posted on: 2010/1/14 3:52
_________________
1985 Z51, ZF6
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer

bogus Re: Knockoff Vs. Real
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah
San Pedro, CA
20859 Posts
Member since:
2005/9/7 0:00



Offline
I talked to the guys at Contemporary Corvettes a few years back.

They were selling generic wheel bearings... however, they were made by the same comp that did them for GM. GM found out and threatened to pull their contract. No more cheap and good bearings, eh?
Posted on: 2010/1/14 7:18
_________________
The single biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has taken place. - George Bernard Shaw

Education is the best tool to overcome irrational fear. - me

Transfer the post to other applications Transfer

Calm Re: Knockoff Vs. Real
Senior Guru
Vancouver, Canada
608 Posts
Member since:
2007/12/27 0:00



Offline
Well I can tell you all that ZF has their bearings totally locked down as 'propriatary'.

Last engine rebuild I wanted to replace my tranny input bearing....I mean what? a $40.00 bearing??? Wasn't warn but I was new to ZF noise so I figured "just in case/safer than sorry"....anyways,actually contacted the manufacturer (thinkin Timkin or SKF?..can't remember) with the part #...THEY said..."Oh, that's a propriatary item...please contact 1-800 (ZF) blah blah...so I did. ZF (out of NY somewhere?) quoted $750.00 +++ for the "input bearing and gasket set KIT". Never did it of course.

Since then (4 yrs ago) I've learned (thanks to you all here at Guru) that ZF's are 'noisy' anyways. Has nothing to do with a (not) warn input bearing.

Years ago I used to sell and find wierd bearings as a living and truly did any 'due diligence' in locating a replacement brearing.

This one is truly a "one of" for ZF.

Good for them.

The pricks.
Posted on: 2010/1/14 8:15
_________________
1995 Forged 385 ZF6 227/234 1.6 FIC30# MSD BBK SS SLP Bullets X-Pipe DynoMax
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer

SpectatorRacing Re: Knockoff Vs. Real
Elite Guru
1721 Posts
Member since:
2007/12/29 0:00



Offline
Many times they make the part to the OEM spec. The ones that don't meet the quality targets are rebadged as a different brand (which may not need to meet the same requirements) and sold cheaper.
Posted on: 2010/1/14 14:42
_________________
aka Scaryfast
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer

VtVette Re: Knockoff Vs. Real
Guru
Las Vegas, NV
357 Posts
Member since:
2007/8/31 0:00



Offline
The worse nightmare I ever encountered in regard to the whole aftermarket/OEM situation was a year plus restoration I did on a 1973 Jaguar E-Type. Everything is available for the cars but man does the quality differ greatly from source to source and from batch to batch of parts. I recall purchasing a tail light for the car 5 times over - 4 units were sub par or defective in some way out of the box. Of course every supplier touts the quality of the parts for these cars but It was a holy nightmare to actually find good parts. And then some retailers would have some good quality components but some of their other components would be crap so you had to buy all over the place.
Posted on: 2010/1/14 18:15
_________________
Brian
VTvette

1993 triple black roadster 6 speed
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer

Jeffvette Re: Knockoff Vs. Real
Elite Guru
Not on CF
1297 Posts
Member since:
2007/12/29 0:00



Offline
Quote:

bogus wrote:
GM would cut off their nads for that... it's a breach of contract.


GM might, but it seems Dell does not care. I've been looking for a replacement battery along with a charger cord and I've the knock offs sporting the dell labeling.


What brought this up as the final straw, I was looking for a ipod cord for my alpine head unit, and the price was all over the place. From 5 bucks to 35.
Posted on: 2010/1/14 22:24
Transfer the post to other applications Transfer

bogus Re: Knockoff Vs. Real
Grand Imperial Pooh-Bah
San Pedro, CA
20859 Posts
Member since:
2005/9/7 0:00



Offline
oh, geez... Dell are sluts... I hate their hardware, too.

As for the the iPod cable? So many make knockoffs... not even funny.
Posted on: 2010/1/15 4:13
_________________
The single biggest problem with communication is the illusion that it has taken place. - George Bernard Shaw

Education is the best tool to overcome irrational fear. - me

Transfer the post to other applications Transfer

You can view topic.
You cannot start a new topic.
You cannot reply to posts.
You cannot edit your posts.
You cannot delete your posts.
You cannot add new polls.
You cannot vote in polls.
You cannot attach files to posts.
You cannot post without approval.

[Advanced Search]


CorvetteForum.guru is independently owned and operated. This site is not associated with or financially supported by General Motors.

Copyright 2008-2015 CorvetteForum.guru

CorvetteForum.guru is a Guru Garage Site (Coming Soon!)

If you have any questions about our site, please contact us at Andy@corvetteforum.guru.

Powered by XOOPS 2.56 Copyright 2001-2014 www.xoops.org

Hosted by GoDaddy.com.