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| xccter | '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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You know I sold the '88 and only have my '71 now.
I'm dipping my toe back in the C4 pool HERE because you guys are the Undisputed C4 Gurus. Can anyone produce photographic proof of RPO D98 pin stripes on an early C4? I have heard of them sporadically over the years without ever seening so much as a drawing on a bar napkin. Mark |
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| TommyT-Bone | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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Let's bring in all the accumulated facts.  http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-ge ... 1846-d98-option-code.html |
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| TommyT-Bone | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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Looking forward to the replies. |
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| xccter | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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Tom,
I actually saw it on NCRS and then that OTHER place. If you guys knew, I was going to PM him to come over here. Mark |
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| bogus | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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I found this:
http://www.thevettebarn.com/forums/c4 ... -rpo-codes-1984-96-a.html And this list shows no reference to Pin Stripes. D98 is a speedometer option of some sort. The Black Book makes no reference to it... I can't find my copy of Corvette Specs, so I can't refer back to that. I have once more source... |
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| BillH | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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Yea, only 2 posts on them on NCRS, but nobody has a pic anywhere.
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| xccter | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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Waiting for a picture of the Loch Ness Monster too.
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| bogus | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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I think that may be an easier pic to get, dude...
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Posted on: 2012/5/7 17:23
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| xccter | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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You may be right Andy. ;)
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| xccter | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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Nothing yet, eh?
Attach file:  bigfoot.jpg (52.96 KB) |
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| TommyT-Bone | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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Is this it? Attach file: UnicornChris.jpg (40.70 KB) |
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| bogus | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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From Mike Antonick:
Andy: I don't. Seems like an odd option considering the divider strip and two tones available. Dealer install, perhaps, or something planned and cancelled. Do you know of any actual examples? Mike |
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| j3studio | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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Mike would be a significant reference for just about anything C4. During my seven years in the NCRS, I never saw this. |
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| corvetteronw | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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I just got my latest issue of Auto Enthusiast Magazine (June '12). There is a pic of a white 85 coupe with thin double red pin stripes that run from front to back. No mention of the stripes in the article though.
They line up just under the mirror on the door. Page 41. |
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| TommyT-Bone | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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| bogus | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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| bogus | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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I am betting dealer installed. I have seen some pinstripes that run the body wave, on the horizontal. But that's it... and they are dealer installed... |
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| CorvetteArchives | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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The NCRS is assuredly well intentioned but nonetheless amatuer in its approach. As a professional museum curator their work is SLOPPY and very unscientific and an insult to my profession. The 84 judging guide is ripe with errors (as any original 84 owner can tell you). The original owner survey was initially done by an 86 owner from NJ with zero attention to detail and corrections are a long time coming. Perhaps they have since corrected their errors as its been a few years since I purchased their guide and tossed in in a drawer in disgust. I do not intend to waste any more $ on them :-P It's truly a a wonder to me that anyone gives them any credibility at all...I can only IMAGINE the errors people believe as fact for previous years! |
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| BillH | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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Yea, guys like Noland Adams don't know a damn thing about Corvettes.
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| bogus | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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You speak with this great expertise... however, I have to put my faith on the NCRS vs your sour grapes. Is it not possible the copy you saw was a first draft? I am sure that would be full of errors. I'm with Bill on this... Nolan knows his shit and isn't about to let something 2nd rate come out with the NCRS name on it. I don't know him very well - we were both contributors to the former Corvette Enthusiast Magazine and exchanged a couple of emails on stuff - but he sure strikes me as a knowledgeable, direct yet compassionate, fellow. He would gently correct vs rub someones nose in it. j3studio had his 85 judged several times and I never EVER heard him once complain that there was an error in the judging guide. And if you are getting car judged, I sure as hell would hope you know that car well enough to know what is right and what is wrong. |
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| BillH | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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The mind boggling thing is the knowledge base on the NCRS forum, including many who worked in the plant (even C2's). And, I've never seen an "asshole" post on the forum including restomod questions. Can there be mistakes in the judging manuals?- of course, they weren't written at the time of assembly. They get corrected when they can be proven. These guys are just volunteers. If you saw the archives that NCRS freely gave over to NCM this year, you'd be stunned. |
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| j3studio | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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I was a member of the NCRS, but am no longer one. The first edition of the 1984-1986 judging guide did have a bunch of errors, but any conscientious C4 judge (and that describes almost all that I met) has a many annotations and updates in their copy. The C4 team leaders have also been able to photograph many of the strange early C4 exceptions (my early 1985's emissions label placement, for example). I am confident that the second edition will be far superior and I will purchase it, even though I'm no longer playing that game. Any NCRS judging guide is intended as a starting point - no more. When judging, I would routinely tell owners not to change anything unless they were sure it was wrong. Despite the intentions of McLellan to get the C4 right the first time, there were hundreds of changes just in the first three years. Only starting to judge a lot of cars in a somewhat rigorous fashion would bring these differences to the fore. So, kind of a chicken and egg thing. In hindsight, it might have been better to write the C4 guides from the ground up instead of basing the format on the late C3 guides. However, this wasn't easily knowable: adding mid-years and sharks had been done that way and it had worked out. The later C4 judging guides are far superior - in particular, the 1990-1996 guides are excellent. |
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| Ultraman | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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I had to smile at the exchange on this thread....and when I looked over on an old card file in my man cave and saw The Bible resting on top of what I consider the Vette bible for restorations.
I don't know about the C4 books but Noland didn't leave much out of the C2 and C3 books and I believe he would always be open for revision if he was wrong on a fact.....but I think he rarely is.... I hope you have written him and the NCRS about your differences.  |
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| TommyT-Bone | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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Hey BillH! Ride over and check this one out for us. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevro ... rucks&hash=item3375ac48e1 |
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| BillH | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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U lookin' to add a 6th sports car to the stable???  Unless there's 2 of those in town, I've seen that one driving around a lot....a lot. |
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I like the color. The cloth sports seats are relatively unusual. I'd be more trusting of the interior and mechanical bits if the seller had bothered to focus the camera. 66k is high mileage for collecter purposes - almost to the hooptie level of the 70k on my 1985. For $4,900 somebody got a 205 bhp L83 with an A4. Now they have to decide what to do with it. |
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| Ultraman | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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Uh....it's got a pinstipe....someone should ask the original owner if he ordered it that way or the dealer put it on......
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| Matatk | Re: '84-86 RPO D98 Pin Stripes - Unicorn or Real | ||
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I sent the guy a message, let's see if he responds:
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