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Matt26R Rear Hub Failure
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A few C5 guys have reported hub failures over the past month that were exactly what I had in early May. Left rear Timken hub w/ 4-5 weekends. It didn't like the Hoosiers...

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Posted on: 2008/6/9 16:46
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Jeffvette Re: Rear Hub Failure
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Yea, you did the hub in. These cars put a lot of abuse to the rear tires.
Posted on: 2008/6/9 21:54
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Matatk Re: Rear Hub Failure
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Yea, you did the hub in. These cars put a lot of abuse to the rear tires.


Why is that? Because of the rear suspension set-up? Is there a specific reason? Not being a smartass, just not knowledgeable about it

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Posted on: 2008/6/9 22:28
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Matt26R Re: Rear Hub Failure
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It's strange how the hub broke completely at the flange. My guess is the track(Putnam Park)was the primary reason. A few too many right turns pulling 1.6g's.(data aq.) The last 2 turns before the front straight also have some pretty good bumps that load the car up.
Posted on: 2008/6/10 13:56
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So it's like a sheering force, then?

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Posted on: 2008/6/10 14:10
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Yea, you did the hub in. These cars put a lot of abuse to the rear tires.


Why is that? Because of the rear suspension set-up? Is there a specific reason? Not being a smartass, just not knowledgeable about it

Matthew


No, nothing wrong with the rear suspension, even a coilover setup wouldn't change the amount of loading the rear gets.

It's bascially a very heavy car (for a racecar) and the rear hub assemblies were designed for the street. When you put a set of slicks on which have a larger tire contact patch, which allows you to go faster in the corners, higher G forces in the corners put more load on the bearings. And the offset of the wider wheel and tire puts more lever action on the hubs increasing the loading.
Posted on: 2008/6/10 14:35
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Matatk Re: Rear Hub Failure
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Thanks!

So is there an aftermarket hub that is stronger/more capable?

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CentralCoaster Re: Rear Hub Failure
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There's a larger spindle and bearing setup, but I don't know if that will cure your type of breakage.

BTW Timken doesn't make ball bearings last I checked. It may have their name on it, but who knows where it's from.

I would switch to a known quality bearing mfr first and try again.

Jrriflecoach was sourcing some usa made bearings with tapered rollers, sounds like as good a time as any to switch. I think VanSteel had something available also.
Posted on: 2008/6/10 19:01
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ghoffman Re: Rear Hub Failure
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Do you still have the failed part? May I have it please? I will pay for shipping, we want to do some failure analysis and see why it failed. Please call me ASAP, I am working with VanSteel on this to see that that issue goes away.
Gary Hoffman
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Posted on: 2008/6/11 13:48
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Matt26R Re: Rear Hub Failure
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Do you still have the failed part? May I have it please? I will pay for shipping, we want to do some failure analysis and see why it failed. Please call me ASAP, I am working with VanSteel on this to see that that issue goes away.
Gary Hoffman
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Yeah, I still have it Gary. I should have it off sometime this week. I'll ship it out to you asap.

Is this address good?? Hardbar.net, LLC
PO Box 10311
Bedford, NH 03110-0311
Posted on: 2008/6/11 17:54
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Matt26R Re: Rear Hub Failure
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BTW Timken doesn't make ball bearings last I checked. It may have their name on it, but who knows where it's from.



I don't know about ball bearings but they make hubs according to Autozone and my receipt. I always thought of Timken as being a good ole US of A mfr. but you're probably right about where it came from, who knows??
Posted on: 2008/6/11 20:06
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ghoffman Re: Rear Hub Failure
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No, please ship to:

Vansteel Inc.
attn Paul
12285 West Street
Clearwater, Florida 33762
727-561-9199
800-418-5397
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Matt26R Re: Rear Hub Failure
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Will do.
Posted on: 2008/6/12 0:49
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Please email me with your info and I will send you a UPS call tag and they will come and pick it up at your place.

ghoffman@hardbarusa.com

Thanks again!
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ghoffman Re: Rear Hub Failure
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The new HD bearings now available for immediate shipping! The fronts will be available in August.
Thanks,
Gary
http://hardbarusa.com/hardbar/product ... ?cPath=32&products_id=110
Posted on: 2008/6/12 15:04
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C4forlife Re: Rear Hub Failure
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Just out of curiosity what size tires are you running on your car?
Posted on: 2008/6/19 4:17
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Matt26R Re: Rear Hub Failure
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295/17 Hoosier R6's on 11" 50mm offset A molds.
Posted on: 2008/6/19 11:43
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Gary,

Those look STOUT!

I will be thinking that way when I replace. No question.
Posted on: 2008/6/21 1:01
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