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Posted on: 2008/12/8 22:01
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| pr0zac | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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just an example of two ways to skin a cat..
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Posted on: 2008/12/8 22:03
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| Qack | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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Better for what?
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Posted on: 2008/12/8 23:12
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| pr0zac | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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Posted on: 2008/12/8 23:15
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| jsup | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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Posted on: 2008/12/8 23:43
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| pr0zac | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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anyone??????????
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 0:15
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| pr0zac | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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| jsup | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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You sound like Wes.
Let me point out the obvious. If you or Wes had put up a build with AFR heads there would be 39 posts by now. Wes's post fell off the charts, and so will yours. Interesting huh? |
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 1:45
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| dan0617 | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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OK, I'll be the guinea pig. I'm not afraid of the shit I'll get from everyone for my responses. I'll let 'em hang.
If my car is a stick I'll take motor number 1. I like the torque coming up through the gears and still have great power on top. If my car is an auto I'll take motor number 2. I like the high power on top, and with a high stall converter when I nail it the revs jump straight up over 5000 so everything below that is moot IMO. As long as the street manners are good, I'll take this engine and a high stall converter. |
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| CentralCoaster | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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Is there a purpose to this thread, or are you trying to bait someone into a futile argument?
#2 will win on the dragstrip, #1 will be more fun on the street. |
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| pr0zac | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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well.... number one is
* Scat 9000 3.75" Crank * Childs & Albert 6.0" Rods * Mahle Power Pack Pistons * LE3 Cam 23x 24x .60x .60x 10x * LE2 GM LT4 heads * LE ported intake * Mr Gasket .029 Head gasket * 12.5 : 1 compression * Exotic Muscle 1 3/4" Long tubes * 3" True Duals, Spintechs * Stock ZF6, Fidanza flywheel engine number 2 DUM DUM DUM!!!! Shortblock LT1 / 4 small block bore: 4.03" (JE pistons) Stroke 3.625" (Cola forged) 6.0" rods (Compstar) Static compression 10.96:1 Comp Cams Hydraulic roller cam, specs at .05" lift: Intake duration 230, .622 valve lift Exhaust duration 236, .624 valve lift Lobe separation: 112.0 Installed 108.0 intake center line Caddy racing lifters Oil system: Johnson's 4 stage dry sump pump (3 sunction stages all in the pan) Hamburgers 3 stage dry sump pan with extra scavenge fitting/tube added custom oil tank Canton oil thermostat and earls cooler Intake: Ported LT4 42lb injectors 58mm throttlebody Heads: AFR 210cc LT4 Eliminators, competition ported Other: Trans: ZF6 Clutch: Carolina stage 3 Exotic Muscle headers 1-3/4" primaries Corsa 2-1/2" exhaust with Carsound 3" Cats Delteq ignition Meziere Electric water pump 180* Thermostat |
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 2:13
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| PeteK | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 2:18
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| jsup | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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Now we'll see the posts climb and find out which one is better. Anyone in a gambling mood?
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 2:30
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| PeteK | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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I thought he was implying that a drysump system frees up power.
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 2:32
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| pr0zac | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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its an apples to apples comparison. so much for that sotp's horseshit where certain engines won't come alive till 3500. the ignoramus's running around yapping about how afr heads will magically give you all this amazing torque and horsepower just by using the "golden head". the second motor is much more exotic and makes a hair more power with all its unneeded parts like dry sump, eliminator series competition cnc ported heads and customs stroke were a basic 383 with ported factory heads can produce almost exact numbers with no tricks up its sleeve. so to a certain pecker checker, take that flow numbers and dyno sheet and stick them where the sun doesn't shine.
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Posted on: 2008/12/9 2:32
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| jsup | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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Must be in the water around here.  OH, btw, the HP difference was a result of the dry sump, otherwise they were the same. Wonder if those were the LT-4 heads from the David and Goliath article...oh man that was funny even for me. I remember with fondness how we were told how much more power....ah never mind.So, on one hand you have a D&G article, on the other you have real live dyno sheets. Which do YOU believe? Fact or hype, you decide. |
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| BeachBum | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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Wow !!
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| bogus | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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I don't like where this thread is going. Infact, I don't like your tone, Pr0zac. You are on notice. One more pointless thread like this, one week vacation. Understand?
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| CentralCoaster | Re: can you tell me which would be a better motor? | ||
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The only "horseshit" I hear around here is this constant hard-on you two have for bashing AFR. Nobody here is beating their chests and singing the praises of AFR. So I don't have a clue who you're arguing with, and its obvious to me there's only one way it will stop.
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