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I notice you're an automatic.... that will make it easier. In moderate to good air, I don't think it will be a problem with sticky tires and a converter that flashes up to around 4000 rpm. (Might only be a converter rated at 3000-3600 rpm, but flashes up to around 4000 rpm on the first hit) Thats a lot of power... if you focus on getting your 60 ft down to the low 1.4 area, the 10 second slip will more than likely easily happen. As a comparison note, Phil Tobins LT-1 (before it was a big block), he made similar HP to you at one stage. I believe he hit low 1.4 60's and 125-128 mph and a best et of 10.6x He did have a looser converter than you have. Good luck !! Rather you get there or not, the fun is trying to get it. 
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Thats Awesome
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My employer is a world-wide Corporation that has sales/service offices and even a small factory (For Chinese domestic market only) in China. I know our Chinese GM very well.... he says the "only" reason to manufacture in China is Cheap Labor. No other reason... he says its a logistics nightmare over there from the point of finding reliable Supplier lines.
I've never talked to him about Pollution regulations, but I guess it must be pretty lax considering that amazing picture. As a note, I am involved with the AMT (Association of Manufacturing Technology) they are well aware of the difficulty in getting young talent into the Manufacturing Industry. Most young Engineers are heading into IT and Software related jobs simply because they feel they have done a poor job of selling the Manufacturing Industry. They in conjunction with SME (Society of Manufacturing Engineers) are creating a host of propoganda video's that are designed to entice the young grads back into the Manufacturing industry by putting a youthful spin and glamour look to the Market. They previewed one at an AMT/AMTDA Conference recently.... was pretty good. Don't know if it will work though. But, as a country, we really need it too. Manufacturing in this country starts and ends with young Tech Engineers devoting their careers to it. Right now, its almost impossible to find talent in this industry.
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That is an absolutely perfect Torque & HP curve !
Flat torque curve = Rising HP curve = Happy Corvette Owner That motor is good for easy low 11's and even 10's if you can coerce some 60's out of it. Congrats !!
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I wasn't parting with the C4.... they two were really unrelated. One is a racecar, the other is my weekend street car.
Besides, nobody would give me a fraction of what I have in my C4.... 80% loss if I ever sell it. Might as well drive into the ground.... which is what I am working on.
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If you're intent on getting a big displacement naturally aspirated LSx motor, I know Scoggin Dickey has a LSX 454 they sell for around 60-70% of what a new LS7 costs....has more power too and utilizes the LS7 cylinder head.
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Years back I did dragstrip back to back spark plug tests with multiple different plugs....for my application, as long as you had the right temp spark plug for your engine, I couldn't detect a difference on the timeslip. I will say, if you have old plugs, I did notice a slight difference just going to a new plug. (any new plug) I had 20,000 mile plugs twice, both times, new plugs found me a few hundredths.... which isn't much, but it was detectable on the slip.
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I think that artists rendition looks a lot like the Ferrari California.... which isn't a bad thing. Not sure I would run out and buy one, but, its not bad. Will be interesting to see what the final look will be, not to mention the powerplant specs.
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Thanks all.... its a real hoot to drive.
Small matter of doing an exhaust valve & guide swap-out with them, but once you get past that, life is good.
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Great Story !
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Picked this up a couple of months ago.... Love it ! High Recommend for anybody on the fence. Goes well with the C4.
   
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As per my schematic, what I know about the Injectors on an 85 ECM.... is that both cylinder banks are powered at the same time, but are fused seperately. Then the injectors are activated by grounding each bank seperately via solid state ecm activation. Each bank has its own driver output from the ecm for this.
What I do not know.... do the drivers activate each bank at the exact same time or does each bank fire at different times. I think just because there is a seperate driver for each bank, doesn't mean they fire at a different time, hence this is what I am trying to find out. Does anybody know "definitively" how the 85 ecm works ? Thanks.
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I know this is over 2 years old.... but I'll expound on it anyway just because it kinda bothers me to see naive people who believe every email that comes in front of them. The below are the facts: - Pelosi had "nothing" to do with American Samoa being exempted in that bill - American Samoa was exempt to the minimum wages before that bill - It was not passed for American Samoa and their minimum wage increased - Pelosi's husband owns "zero" stock in Del Monte or Star Kist Fact checking is your friend.... I highly recommend you do a search for facts upon receiving these emails. (That you recited word for word.... hey, I got the same one. I instead fact checked it and found out it was junk) All of the fact checking sites covered this subject matter in depth. I'll get you started with your research here: http://www.factcheck.org/2008/11/special-favors-from-nancy-pelosi/ Your whole premise is simply shot down by facts.... you should consider writing Pelosi an apology email for spreading propoganda lies about her. 
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Good Stuff Brian !
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One of the better ballgames I personally have seen....hope for more of the same tonight.
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BeachBum approves of this thread !
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I run the Weld Draglites, but have run the Weld Pro-stars in the past.... its a matter of styling opinion on those. But, they are good well known racing wheels that have no issue, so you're good to go with those. Of those two radial tires, I think both are good tires, but the Hoosiers have the best feedback from most racers at this point in time, hence, I'd probably go in that direction. I think either will do better than what you had. I'll add one thing, Irwindale was the hardest hooking track I've ever been on.... albeit, this was years ago, assuming its still in the same good condition, you should try that track. Your motor will like the better air too. Go out on a bracket points day... they allow test n tuners too, or at least used to. The track will be sticky.... I always find it hard to hook-up consistently on test n tune nights with all of the street tire cars. Good Luck !
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I agree.... without the right tires, you're muzzling up that Mad Dog Motor ! (Proof is running in the 8's, when your mph indicates a low 7 second et capability) Bias ply fronts are to match the rear bias play slicks so many run with, hence better tracking. I believe all MT ET Fronts are bias ply, which is what I run right now. (Maybe they have radial fronts now, not sure).... but back years ago, I wanted to try radial skinny fronts and found a tire that would go on a 15" rim, 4.5" wide that would stand 26" tall. It was actually a tire designed for volkswagons and was dirt cheap.($ 29 a tire if I remember right) They worked well, but bear in mind, that radial was heavier than the bias ply and it showed up on the timeslip with a difference in the 3-4 hundredths area vs the MT ET front. Hence, basically almost chopping in half the benefit of the front skinnie on my set-up, which typically gives around a tenth gain on my car, give or take a hundredths or two. I agree with those who say you shouldn't mix radial and bias-ply, but I'll also say, for a C4 corvette at our street/strip speeds.(Typically under 130 mph), its fine. My car tracked fine regardless of if I had radials on the front and bias ply on the back or vise-versa. Lots of people do it. However, I will correct myself in giving the advise I did earlier.... with a heavy A-body, I can imagine its different at speed than our stable C4's.... so perhaps he shouldn't as jonszr1 eluded to earlier. I don't know. As a note, there is nothing wrong with Bias Ply slicks at 100 mph or faster.... they grow and you go down the track, with no real stablity issues. Problem lies in when you try to make turns, especially fast ones..... you'll get a lot of sidewall roll.
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Nelson, I found the article on-line, so don't have to scan. It is just a summary of his view on the various aspects of drag racing tires, but I've heard of this guy a dozen times, thus I assume he's a straight-shooter. My experiences do match his on many aspects. http://www.chevyhiperformance.com/tec ... g_tires_tips/viewall.html In regards to your dry-rot slicks.... those are garbage and probably not helping you much if any. Slicks will disintegrate over years on you. As to what you should do per your options above.... it comes down to the question of: Do you enjoy Drag Racing ? If you do, I'd invest in some decent rims and tires considering the high value of good tires in racing, if not, why worry about it. You have a good runner.... 96 mph in a 3900 lb racecar on a 1700 ft track is impressive. With tuning and a lower elevation track, you might be a 100 mph car, which with an A-body is somewhere around 123-125 mph 1/4's and if you're hooking up hard, a 10 second car. I'll also add, as per the massive spin you are experiencing, I have discovered on my racecar, if you do not get hooked-up before the top of 1st gear or if you spin in 2nd or 3rd gear, this effects your trap speed.... thus, if you were spinning after 1st gear, no telling how fast you can really run. Get a good tire under you and find out ! Good Luck with whatever you do ! 
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Will, you might be right. I do not know much about A-body suspensions other than what I have read on the other forums. I know if you have big power, stock suspensions are hard to hook-up with those boats. Hence, regardless of if which tire you run, considering his suspension and power level, he is probably going to spin, thus what becomes important is recovery time and a bias ply will almost always recover much quicker than a radial. (But, maybe not the Hoosier... I don't know)
I do agree, the Hoosier tire has passed everybody in the drag radial department by all reports. I've run just about every drag radial, except theirs.... but I want too, its not just the heads-up racers raving about the Hoosier drag radial, but also the bracket racers. The other DR tires simply do not hold power consistently enough for a bracket racer, such as myself. I've lost so many races due to them, I'm soured on them. One thing about a radial though... if you get it hooked up in your roll-out, it will run faster than the BP tire. As a note, I've got a great article on tires where Ken Warner, the MT guru talks about everything being discussed in this thread. Maybe tomorrow, if I have time, I'll scan it and then post it. It is interesting. later
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My bad, I should have mentioned "elevation". Yeap, Barona is 660' as all 1/8ths are.
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Problem is, while those Hoosiers are among the best drag radial tires, they are not designed for non-tuned suspension cars on marginal tracks. You'll do farrrrrr better with a bias ply slick such as the MT ET Street or Hoosier equalivent. Those radials will spin hard just as your street tire does. With your heavy car, big power, and suspension, you need a tire that recovers quickly.
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I've done it 100's of times.... its fine at our street/strip car speeds. I do agree though, if you're going to being going the speeds needed for parachutes (150+), then I wouldn't mix them. CC, Barona is technically speaking 1725 feet at the track... you'll see listings of it at the various dragsites of 1600-1700 ft, but the starting line is a little over 1700 ft. Irwindale is somewhere around 1000 ft lower.. you'll run considerably faster. (On my old motor, my best 1/8th et's were from Irwindale)
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Great sounding Car !!
Barona is a 1700 ft track, thus you'll run approxmiately 1.5-2 mph faster at Irwindale 1/8th mile track. You have quite a bit of HP considering I presume you're a stock-weight Chevelle. Your MPH indicates you have the ability to run a full second quicker in the 1/8th. Congrats !
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Looks Freakn great Tommy !! Completely different home both inside and out. Congrats on a well done job.
Is that MJ in your garage ?
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The MPH is real good and indicates easy 11 second et's at 115-118 mph dependent on a few variables. Of course you need to reel that 60 ft in as you know. Good running car !
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LOL...
You have just completed my ensemble ! Nothing can stop me now.... just have to bring er home now.
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Thats hilarious ! Probably fun too.... btw, Hillbillies don't need no stinkn helmet.... but, if we did, this would be it. http://www.ratfink.org/hillbilly/
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I have chosen my new racing ensemble to go with it.... I've always felt style is important.
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/view/634915/
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To fully appreciate this sweet rat rod, you have to view it on Ebay. You get the privilege of some details previously unseen.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other- ... rucks&hash=item336bd97e35 The fact that their is 18 bids on this sweet ride tells me that I'm going to have to pony up and perhaps also sell the daily driver and maybe even my wife's car to be able to pull this off. But, it'll be worth it !! And I'm sure she'll be okay with it once she see's a few pictures herself.... who wouldn't ?
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You guys are just saying those things in an attempt to throw me off the trail of buying it.... so you can come in and steal it out from under me.
But, I am on to your sly-dog ways and have jumped a step ahead of you and offered the seller double what he is asking....and I'm prepared to go triple ! It is only an amount of time before that sweet ride sits in my stable. I figure I can sell rides at 10 bucks a pop to make up the difference. I am the "savvy buyer" :tongue: I think the first thing I'm going to do the day I take possession is head overseas to that thar Nurburgring track and laydown a laptime that'll make the Italians cringe.
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I saw this on another site.... not sure if it has been posted here already. (I'm sure its probably already sold if it has been previously seen by you all) Potential bidding war over this sweet baby.
I am thinking I am going to sell my vette to buy this vette.... it has everything done already that I have been after. Although with the exception of a fresh coat of paint, I'm thinking its 100% done. I will say, I am thinking of upgrading the Longhorns....the ones I envisioned have a bit more curl to them. http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/2603418868.html Looking for advise.
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Just as a note, you probably want to run your present gear and see how much power you have and what you actually trap and then make the decision on gear. If you actually hit your target HP of 650 HP.... your trap speed won't be 120 mph (Which is achievable with right around 475 HP).... you'll be up around 130 minimum and probably in the 135 mph area. If you gear for 120 mph.... you'll be way off. In addition, you'll have a better idea of where your HP peak and shift point are. Just food for thought.
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Wowsie !
I have to remember to stop-in here on Fridays more often ! :tongue:
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When I had long tube runners, I have had my governor in-correct just like yours, hence the motor would just make a lot of freakn noise, but no acceleration up above your HP peak. It really doesn't hurt your motor because its not like you're up at 7000 rpm, but it sounds like it is. But, it does definitely hurt not just your et, but even your MPH.... for every foot you drive with the motor not accelerating, that is one less foot you have to actually accelerate. I suspect your et and mph will both substantially improve when you get that sorted out. Or as you already said, just go to a SR and not change the governor... your shift point might be perfect for it already. Good Luck !
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It all becomes a priority thing... you have x amount of money, thus what do you spend it on ? Healthcare ? Military ? Retirement ? Infrastructure ? Economy ? You're damned if you do and damned if you don't on every one of them. I ask myself, what is the most important. When you're a country of 320+ million people, there are certain realities that have to be acknowledged before you decide where it goes.
I know this, our politicians, both left and right have failed the American People. In fact, the politicians of just about every country has failed their people based upon the entire situation in the world. (Somehow, Germany has come out of this looking pretty good.... not sure why, but I was reading an article that said their policies migrated to the middle of the aisle overall coupled with a very strong education system)
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Is that the way RomneyCare is working ?
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Bummer on the crowded track.... I've done that before, it does get old sitting around in the lanes. But, its not always like that at most tracks.
Technically speaking, your helmet needs a Snell 2000 rating on it when you go 13.99 or quicker, which is typically a tag somewhere under the helmet or a sticker on the back. Just thought you should know.... if you get the wrong tech inspector, you'd learn the hard way. On your motor, when I raced a long tube runner set-up, it liked to be short shifted..... torque motors you typically short shift a bit, but higher rpm HP motors, you typically go over the HP peak considerably, but, its a variance. btw, am I reading your signature correctly.... do you have a 383 with a 2400 rpm converter ? If yes, you're definitely running slow, including the MPH. 1600 ft DA in the summer isn't bad at all. Probably something simple holding you back. And of course as the others said, get that 60 ft down, there is a lot of hidden et in your short times. My last recommendation, is to swap out your intake for a shorter runner intake such as a superram or miniram..... you'll find yourself with 50+ more HP real quick. It gets better....
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I am interested in the actual specifics of why this plan won't work.... the right says that it is un-constitutional, yet, the RomneyCare law always requires compliance or penalty as well. I think ObamaCare is along the same lines.
Personally, I have never decided if ObamaCare is good or bad... you have to turn your head away from the rhetoric from both sides and look at things like actual past results. I am not convinced it won't work based upon the results of RomneyCare.... in fact, just the opposite.
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I'll go a step further.... I don't think the opposition party wants or will allow the country to prosper until they get themselves in power. It wouldn't bode well for them and their party if success were to happen on the other guys watch. Case in point, ObamaCare.... the very thing this thread is about. As per what I have read from the media, ObamaCare is a mirror image of what Romney instituted in Massachusetts. What we know without a doubt, is that this healthcare program has been a huge success to the extent, the state of Massachusetts healthcare ranking has vaulted to the very top of the list in just about every metric....and by all accounts, the citizens of Mass like the system. With that said, what is the problem with having a similar system for the rest of America ? What separates Mass from the rest of the country ? This is something I do not understand.... I haven't heard any good answers. I've even heard it is saving them money. I've heard Romney say that yeah, sure it works great for Massachusetts, but it won't work for America. Why ? Each has a plethora of rich people, middle class families and poor families, big cities, small cities. I suspect, they just don't want a successful program with the other parties name on it ? But I honestly do not know. They sure have worked on a sales job to the citizens of America to convince us its evil.... Like I said, its a crazy world.
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Bogus, I am the same as you for the most part politically. Although I voted for McCain. I truly thought he was a true Maverick and middle of the aisle guy, which in my opinion is where the solutions are to the countries problems. I have no idea if he would have worked out.... and I agree 100%, the Palin VP thing lost him the election.
But, with Obama, while I think he appears to be a weak & slow reacting leader, I didn't give him much of a chance anyway. He was handed a country with 2 wars, largest housing bubble burst in our countries history, dire straits automotive industry, historical banking crisis, economy doing a nose dive on a depression level and told to fix the problem pronto, but was given an empty checking account. I am among those that believe whoever the President was, he wasn't getting us out of this Economic hardship anytime soon not just because of the Washington gridlock, but because this is a world-wide economic problem and you can't control so much of what is happening.... I'll bet McCain is kind of happy he didn't win. Crazy world right now....
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I do not understand the comment "....associations with communists and terrorists" JrRiflecoach has made the above comment.... I've heard it a few times, I think from the far right, but not even sure where I have heard the accusation from.
But, what does it mean ? Who are these people ? I'd like to do my own research into each person that he is associated with that is a communist or terrorist and see what is real. Does anybody have the names of these people ?
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I'm not quite following you.... is Bogus blaming President Bush for something ? I didn't notice anything in this thread where he stated that. If he isn't.... why did you make your statement ? You made the statement: "This liberial congress has pummeled us with crap for too long. It is time the Constitution is upheld." Just for my self-education, can you expand on this and tell me exactly what they are doing against the Constitution ? You also made the statement: "Well Andy the fact is that obambi care is not going to become the answer to "free health care". It will take some time for the liberal zealots to realize how they're paychecks/earnings/futures will be taxed to extinction. If we could just save one spotted owl by destroying our own economy........ This liberal BULLSHIT has got to STOP NOW!!!!!" I don't understand any of this.... was this supposed to be a free health care thing of some sort ? Any links to who said that ? On the tax thing..... maybe I'm mistaken, but I read the other day, we currently have the lowest tax burden in decades right now.... is that true ? Is this going to change ? If yes, do you have any links I can learn from ? And whats this about a Spotted Owl ? Who exactly wants to ruin the economy over a single spotted owl ? Your posts appear to be generalized statements based upon something.... I'm just not sure what that is.
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They were basically stereotyping the Corvette owner as a middle-aged person who buys the car for wine n cheese runs, but to be honest, in my years of racing, I have seen and competed with hundreds and hundreds of Corvettes.
The Miata's ?.... I do not recall ever seeing a single one at the track.... not even one. And I guess, why would you.... they're dirt slow. I'd stay home too.
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I pretty much agree with you.... I think its horrible that a certain breed of people take advantage of the system. In fact, I think people on both sides of the aisle do not approve of this. The problem comes in, that on the flip-side, there are a lot of hard-working people who truly need and should receive assistance due to legitimate hard-luck issues related to the this economic environment. We can't end the programs because of them, but the desire of policymakers diminishes due to the 1st group of abusers. No easy answers.... I've always felt that better management of entitlement programs was necessary. The distinct goal of getting people off entitlements and/or confirming abuse, thus kicking them off. Problem is, it would be costly in the beginning due to the manpower/management to really get involved with people on entitlement programs to understand their problems and which group they are in and how to help them. Nobody would vote to initially put more money into something we hope to reduce or eliminate in the first place. But, I feel long term it would be cheaper, that is, if done right and they are actually able to get people off. But, I don't know.... complex problem. As far as illegal residents receiving healthcare in this country, if they are here just to abuse the system (and many probably are), then no, but on the flip-side, as per the links I posted much earlier in this thread, millions are paying Federal, State & Local taxes just like you and me....so I'm not so quick to just automatically declare all of them in-elgible for any benefits. Another tough subject matter in which I'll never pretend to know the answers too... because I don't know them. I do think we need to lock-up the borders and know who is coming and going.... makes too much sense in today's world of terrorism.
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I wasn't blasting you, only responding directly to your post in regards to your situation and relationship of that to ObamaCare. It would have benefited you directly, perhaps you didn't know that. As a note, the situation you describe about crackheads and mothers with 48 kids in Arkansas, is the same just about everywhere and has been for decades in this country. Nobody wants to support the idiots who smoke crack all day or mothers who have a dozen kids, but have no income.... it becomes a social issue. What do we do ?... let the kids starve or support them. Moral dilema that there are no easy answers for.... I certainly do not have an easy one. In regards to your perceptions based upon that judges information on ObamaCare.... I think if you do your own research and do not take those things literally, you'll find the majority of those points are simply not true or stretch/spins that do not tell the whole story. For example, there is "definitely" not a provision that denies 77 year old people from cancer treatment. Go to PolitiFact.com and type in ObamaCare.... you'll see what is reality and what has been spun into something it is not. This is the key to the success of our country.... people cannot believe everything put in front of them, they have to go find the truth and then cast their vote based upon the facts. As a note, illegal resident healthcare in ObamaCare has been covered thoroughly by the media.... there is nothing there.(Beyond emergency healthcare as mandated by both Federal and some state governments, they are entitled to nothing. This is a law that is not new and has been active for a long time) I'll start you out with the first one.... http://www.politifact.com/florida/sta ... amacare-will-cut-treatme/ Read the last paragraph of the below link. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-met ... lames-obama-health-care-/ Here is an article that address's the actual chain letter you have recited.... http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact ... etter_on_health_care.html Just something to think about.
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I am not sure how to respond to this.... for the simple reason, is that of all the people on this board, he's trying to help you the most based upon the above described situation by yourself, but the right is fighting him on that. And yet, you're anti-Obama.... the irony. You are aware, that ObamaCare would provide healthcare for those who cannot afford it as it appears you might have been while unemployed ?.... the other system of no ObamaCare means you keep doing what you're complaining about, because nothing changes from what it is now, if anything, services diminish based upon the cuts the right want to make in social healthcare.... I suspect Medicare/Medicaid are going to be hurt pretty hard in the coming decade, but not sure. If anybody should be a supporter of him on this board, its you based upon what you are describing above. I am personally not supporting for or against ObamaCare.... I have never studied the issue close enough to come to a definitive conclusion, but I do know, with his system everybody buys insurance that can afford it, and those that cannot afford it are provided healthcare on some level or at least that is what I think the basic building block of it is, somebody correct me if I am wrong. Apparently, in Mass, as instituted by Romney, this system is working with a high citizen approval rate and I read somewhere that it actually saved them money..... I don't know if that is true myself. And it certainly doesn't appear any substantial amount of it is designed for non-citizens on any level. (Even though they too have paid hundreds of millions into the system as per my earlier links) It does beg the question, Romney said he is against it on a Federal level, because it won't work for the USA, but works great for the state of MA..... I do not completely understand that. They have rich people, middle class and poor people in MA, just like the rest of the country....he either flipped on this subject because of the platform he has to follow to appease both his party and the tea-party or there is something else he's not talking about..... I don't know. Good discussion though.
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