Just figured the tint law is stupid but whatever....nothing I can do about it so I aint going to mope and bitch and complain over spilled milk. So.......umm......thats it lol..

Tint... I don't like the rules, either. The law, like many others that are being passed around this country, are there to justify the existance of lawmakers. They are simply looking for more laws to create, and that results in the creation of the nanny nation we are becoming.

The only thing with tint... too dark, and you stop seeing details at night.

Some people are just stupid too as it seems....

Why you want the tint so dark is beyond me, and im f***ed if i know how you see out of the car at night. Dont tell me its easy, cause i have enough trouble seeing out of mine at night and its not that dark. Youre parents are right, and they bought the car mate, so its not even yours to say. Get a job and pay for your own stuff to get done. Then stop bitching about the rules and regulations. If you dont like them, move to another bloody state.

Bogus, i totally agree that the converters should be left on the car and it is totally pointless and stupid to remove them, you wont gain a single thing on a street car by taking them off. However, it is your opinion that they do more good than bad. They are known and have been proven in this country to release more carcinogens then an exhaust not fitted. Yes, the exhaust is cleaner with them and apparently doesnt contribute to smog as much, however they are not without drawbacks.

Some people are just stupid too as it seems....

Why you want the tint so dark is beyond me, and im f***ed if i know how you see out of the car at night. Dont tell me its easy, cause i have enough trouble seeing out of mine at night and its not that dark. Youre parents are right, and they bought the car mate, so its not even yours to say. Get a job and pay for your own stuff to get done. Then stop bitching about the rules and regulations. If you dont like them, move to another bloody state.

Bogus, i totally agree that the converters should be left on the car and it is totally pointless and stupid to remove them, you wont gain a single thing on a street car by taking them off. However, it is your opinion that they do more good than bad. They are known and have been proven in this country to release more carcinogens then an exhaust not fitted. Yes, the exhaust is cleaner with them and apparently doesnt contribute to smog as much, however they are not without drawbacks.

Now how can anynoe honestly say that without me being here for likœˆVÅ£5¿ this place was actually bouncing and debating? :tongue: ........

I will admit that every time I walked up to a driver's window, whether it was day or night and couldn't see into the car, I unsnapped my gun holster, kept my hand on the butt of the gun and was ready to draw if necessary. You may think I was over-reacting, but I had every intention of going home after my shift ended. As soon as the driver rolled down the window and I was able to see into the car and felt reasonably safe, I snapped the holster and went back to business. If the traffic stop was at night, my officer safety was heightened. If the stop was at night and I was able to see several figures or shadows in the car, it went up even higher.

Without a doubt, I agree with the tint law. To reiterate, the law is not there for the common folk. It's there for the dope dealing, gang-bangin' pieces of dog crap that are loose on the streets. So, if you are ever pulled over day or night, roll down your window and casually put your hands on the steering wheel. It will make the officer feel safer. Don't tightly grab the wheel or the officer may feel you're trying to hide something. You get the point.

If you have a gun in the car, there's no reason to tell him. If he asks, then be honest. The reason you don't want to volunteer that information is because he/she will take it from you and run the serial number, examine it to see if the serial number has been altered, etc. He will keep you there longer than if you had just kept your mouth shut. Your gun will be returned empty; gun in one hand and bullets or the magazine in the other. You'll need to stay wherever you are even longer when he's done with you, so you can reload it. That's why you don't volunteer the info., unless of course you want to. If you feel better about telling the officer that you have a gun in the car or on your person, then tell him. Each state has its own weapon and concealed weapon laws. You need to know what they are if you intend to own or carry a gun. And most importantly, if you think you cannot use it, then you have no business carrying it. Sorry for the off-topic, but this topic kind of transformed from the tint discussion.

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Now how can anynoe honestly say that without me being here for likœˆVÅ£5¿ this place was actually bouncing and debating? :tongue: ........

Huh?

No youve missed my point here mate, im talking about the common people as a whole and why any of them should carry a gun.

As I said earlier, if you carry a gun, you better be damn ready to pull that trigger should the need ever arise. If you can't or think you can't, you have no business carrying. Most states have laws now that say you need to be 21 to carry a gun and I completely agree with that. Carrying a gun is such an awesome responsibility. If you don't think or are unsure if you can make a quick life and death decision in an instant, don't carry a gun.

Some of you will probably think I'm crazy, but I think that if everyone had a gun, the streets would be safer. The thugs already carry guns, whether they're allowed to or not. If the common people carried guns too, the criminals would probably think twice before committing a robbery or raping some young, skinny 95 lb. woman. If the criminals believed that the person they were about to rob or rape would pull out their gun and blow the criminal's head off, they just may think twice before committing the heinous act.

Would I feel safer if I carried a gun walking in a bad neighborhood? You bet your ass I would. If I was surrounded by 6 thugs who demanded my money, would I pull out my gun? You bet your ass I would. Would I pull the trigger if they advanced on me? You bet your ass I would. Would I feel bad about it? No!

I know that some of you will say I'm crazy, etc., but it's been proven that in areas that enacted carry laws, the crime rate went down. Look what's happening in England, Detroit, NYC and Australia, just to name a few. In all of these places, they have strict gun laws and the crime rate with using a gun is through the roof. If the law abiding citizens were allowed to carry guns, maybe (probably) they wouldn't be victims. There would probably be more shootings, but of the criminals. Who cares?

Funny how a thread related about tint goes into guns and gun control