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biggrizzly | Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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I know this is really been beat to death, but here goes anyway.
I think you guys are finally getting the best of me. The more I contemplate my exhaust system dilemma the more I want to go ahead and order some long tube headers and install them now. Out of all the types out there what is the best bang for the buck? Should I retain EGR or not? I do plan to pass Emission inspection here in Maryland. What's a good way to go. |
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Posted on: 2008/3/3 1:19
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SpeedHound | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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What is required under MD law? Long tubes will move your cats and that may be a problem. If not, my vote if TPIS or Melrose.
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Posted on: 2008/3/3 2:51
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dan0617 | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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I went with Hookers and am happy with them, although I now wish I would have spent the extra change and got ceramic coated. When I pull the motor in a few years (if it lasts that long) I'll probably buy hookers again only ceramic coated. I wasn't worried about looks but my heads/cam/hsr intake swap turned out so nice that the headers and accessories now look bad. I would think you would want the EGR provisions if you are going to have emissions inspections, especially since laws change and even if egr is not mandatory today, tomorrow or next year it might be.
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Posted on: 2008/3/3 3:03
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jsup | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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Seems that Hooker is the low cost decent header choice for many. I have EMs and they are nice, but they are also money...
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Posted on: 2008/3/3 3:11
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biggrizzly | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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To the best of my recent knowledge when my car was last tested about 18 months ago they used a sniffer on the rollers. The guys never opened the hood.
Everyone in my club that has headers on thier cars have put aftermarket cats on, so I don't think that is an issue. Tony Corvettes is up in Gaithersburg, MD and he does an artful and beautiful installation of long tubes, crossover pipes and cat backs, but it costs a lot of $$$$$ I'm just looking for some tubes and cats to plumb into my existing system. Although I have not mufflers either, so that could be another problem. |
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Posted on: 2008/3/3 3:21
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SpeedHound | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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Stainless Works also makes a good setup. I forgot them in my first post. You'll need mufflers if you put headers on.
If you want to get crafty, you could use TPIS headers, into their ypipe. Shove a cat onto the end and then run an L98 cat back. You might need to make a bracket or two but it should be pretty straight forward to essentially swap to an L98 exhaust system. Power loss should be minimal if at all. A true dual system would be ideal. |
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Posted on: 2008/3/3 3:41
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Travis93 | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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I got the EM long tubes in a group purchase on CF, something like $700 shipped. I would have loved to go with the hookers for less than half the price but I could not find them for the LT1 and could not figure out just what was different so paid the extra. I like what I ended up with so no complaints.
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Posted on: 2008/3/3 6:05
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Travis93 | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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Wouldent he be better off sticking with his stock LT1 exhaust? Just cut it far enough back to fit some bullet cats after the headers. |
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Posted on: 2008/3/3 6:09
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LD85 | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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TPIS has been the best fit that I have seen, my Hookers (2151) did not fit my AFR heads so I cut the tubes out of the headers and welded in sections that better cleared the spark plugs.
If fitment is an issue, buy uncoated headers, and cut & weld the tubes, then have the coated by Jet Hot etc. |
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SpeedHound | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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I would do it this way as well but it's not something most people could do in their driveway since bending pipe would be necessary. Or purchase the SW system that supposedly will fit in this manner.
Hmm no idea how to quote but I was answering you Travis. |
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Mekanic | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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I'm in the same boat. LTx long tube options are EM and SW, and shorties.
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Posted on: 2008/3/3 22:29
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Notorious | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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Remember in posts to always state the year of your car and other pertinent info. As smart as I am, I can't remember everything about y'alls cars!
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Posted on: 2008/3/3 23:44
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biggrizzly | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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Notorius Wrote:
Remember in posts to always state the year of your car and other pertinent info. As smart as I am, I can't remember everything about y'alls cars! My Sig says it. sorry I'll try to remember to put in the post. |
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Posted on: 2008/3/4 1:48
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teebee | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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Does anyone make Tri-Y headers for the LT1? These seem to be the best choice for street driven cars (am I right? Considering the low end torque they produce, but might sacrifice some at the top end.) I think I saw some somewhere recently, I think Case has them on his 94 but they were Aussie made IIRC.
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Posted on: 2008/3/4 2:19
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Travis93 | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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I did not know there was pipe bending involved in keeping the stock LT1 cat back. Hmm Makes the money I spent on the custom setup look a little better. By the way to get the quote up you hit reply in the message you want to reply to then you have to hit quote at the bottom of the text box that comes up for you to reply in. |
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Posted on: 2008/3/4 4:16
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Mekanic | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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I forgot melrose.
But those 3 are our options with LT's There are a couple other little places that make them, but they are even more expensive.[quote] |
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Posted on: 2008/3/4 12:01
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SpeedHound | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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Got it! Tnanks In order to put a long tube header on and keep the factory resonator, you'd have to get two pipes bent to connect the header to the resonator. You can then opt to have a cat in there or not. Stainless Works has their setup so that it is a kit and it does exactly how I described. I know of no one else that does this. The mufflers are a different story since they connect on the other end of the resonator. They are two totally separate pipes at that point though. The L98s used a y pipe off the back of the cat to split off to each muffler. |
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CentralCoaster | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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I've searched high and low, the only Tri-Ys I've ever seen for the C4 are these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBa ... m=&item=150208711929&rd=1 and these... http://www.bassani.com/part/57421C4C There's also rumor of some Thorleys that were made once upon a time, but I've never been able to find a set. |
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biggrizzly | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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Those bassani's look sweet!! I wonder what they cost? |
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Posted on: 2008/3/5 1:21
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teebee | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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Those Vette Tech are the ones I've seen before. Looks to me those would be sweet. According to the info on the page they make good power low down and all the way to 7000rpm.
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Posted on: 2008/3/5 3:33
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Notorious | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBa ... m=&item=150208711929&rd=1 These are the ones I'd like to try on my car next. But although I've had some communications with this guy, it tends to be sporadic. I'm waiting to hear results from someone who's tried these as to fitment and overall quality. Quote: CentralCoaster wrote: Have you forgotten that I have a NOS set of these that I offered to you once? You declined. I test fitted them to my LT1 car once and the left side fit beautifully. The right side had some interference issues with my later style HVAC box though. They are strictly for an L98 car or an '84. I sold them to a guy once and he claimed that they were only a couple of inches off of the ground. But he was full of shit, they only extend about an inch further downward than my SW or DRM headers do. And those are both are tucked well up into the underside. Another inch would not be an issue in any way. But I bought them back from him as I promised I would if he wasn't pleased with them. It wasn't worth the grief of doing otherwise. I even covered some of the return shipping, which was not in the original deal. Someone else was working on his car for him and from the BS that the buyer relayed back to me, that guy was obviously an incompetent boob. |
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CentralCoaster | Re: Inexpensive Long Tube Options? | ||
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Yeah I remember that and you probably sent me pics too.
What was your price? I think I didn't like them because of the smog tubes, and even if I used the smog tubes they wouldn't hook up to my 85 setup without doing some work. |
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