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Posted on: 2008/3/28 13:11
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Alot of work going on with the kitchen. Right now I have to figure out why a light switch I just rewired dont work. Strange thing is it has power at the switch so I am really not sure why its that way. It was connect to a switch and hot wired to a outlet then back to the switch. Anyway, I am redoing the kitchen and I expect to be done in 3 weeks.
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I can hear the crack of the wife's whip now. "Get this kitchen back together!" Good luck on the project.
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Thats going to depend on a couple of things 1) single throw switch or 3 way switch 2) I am assuming the load(power) is at the outlet and you want to turn the outlet on and off with the switch if this is the case you want to wire the switch into the black line before it connects to the outlet( ie the wire to the switch should be hot coming and going. On end at the switch connects to the outlet the other to the incoming power. If your using 2 switches its a little more complicated. If the load is feeding the switch it will be different |
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one helluva project, Johnny! A new kitchen is gold in a house... One of the best investments you can make! Even in the crap economy we have today, if you spend $10k on a kitchen, use it for 5 years, keep it nice, sell the house, you will make every bit of that $10k back, if not more.
What are you using for counter tops? I would avoid granite... it is a maintenance nightmare and absorbs moisture and other nasties. I prefer Corian (sp?). It's killer great stuff! Did you insulate? Thats such cheap insurance... it makes the house SOOO much quieter and seriously lowers the climate costs. I wish this dump was insulated... we hear everything!!!!! |
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I was just wondering that same thing. Being from Vermont i've never seen a place that wasn't insulated and to tell you the truth I just thought every house was. I guess if your in a nice climate there woud be know reason to do but for sound and AC reasons. Very neat and goes to show that you learn somethiing new everyday , Rob |
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Yeah we insulate. The one wall you see is part of the house and not an exterior wall. It used to be. I am going with a laminate countertop due to my budget running low. Its going to cost us 750 and it looks just like marble!
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Since it's in the kitchen, is the oulet a GFCI? Has it been tripped? Just a thought. That or maybe the switch itself is bad. Try swapping it out if what "Livin" said doesn't work.
Matthew PS - other than that looks good |
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Many of the pre-1970 houses here in SD aren't insulated, but yeah, you'd be stupid not to. My bud put 3.5 tons of A/C in his 1200 sqft older house and it runs constantly when it's 100F outside.
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I have granite with no issues. Porosity is minimal and the dark color and pattern hides stains. There are some synthetic granite look alikes though that are nonporous. I think Corian looks like shit. Like plastic with vomit chunks inside it (if you get the fancy ones). |
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Johnny,
I have been board most of this week prepping to go to Ft Hood Sunday for a week and replacing the weatherstripping on my 94. Give me a holler next weekend if you need an extra hand. Today is our anniversary (34yrs) and I am taking the misses to supper and tomorrow we are thinking of going to Hotlanta to visit our daughter. My cell is 706-662-8383. Good luck on your project. |
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Pics will be here once the rain dies down enough so I can dig around the dumpster safely. Sorry for the wait.
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Johnny is that even legal? Why on earth would they have general purpose outlet on a lighting circuit? |
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It's done all the time. Older homes never came with lights in some of the rooms.
It's possible that half of the outlet is switched and the other half is hot. The switch has to be inline with the black on either or both of the plug outlets. Also if you see red in there, that's usually used for the switched circuit (downstream of the switch). But sometimes black is used. |
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Ok, that switch set up is MIA, I cant find it in the dumpster so how do I proceed? I could pull the light down and rewire things which is where part of the problem may be or do I need to rewire the switch? I have only 3 wires, black, white and copper. Copper of course grounds on the switch housing, then the other two go at their respective sides.
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Why do other countries insist on using whites and greys and coppers in their single phase circuits? What is wrong with red and black?
Righto, youre talking about A/C power here, so youve got active, neutral, and maybe earth (although i dont know why youd have earth in a lighting cicuit) The neutral doesnt go into the switch at all, it can go directly to the light fitting. The active goes in 1 side of the switch and comes out the other, the terminals on the back of the switch should be marked as to what they are, cause there could be 3 or 4 of them. It should be very simple mate, there is only 2 wires, and only one of those needs to be switched. |
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Switch has got to be buggered then if youre sure you have power to it, either that of the light fitting is buggered.
Use a multimeter on the switch and check it for continuity to see whether its working or not. If it is, youve got further issues. |
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Are you talking on the switch? if so this may be a 3 way switch and not a single switch. A three way is used to have to switches control a light or circuit. A single switch has 2 screws top and bottom to break the black wire with 1 ground screw on other side for ground . The white does not connect to either a 3 way or a 2 way switch, if it is, it should be marked with black tape signifying that it is a hot wire. Is the power to the switch coming from the outlet going to the switch and then the light? I'm trying to understand your circuit ? Sometimes a trip to home depot or lowes with a diagram of the circuit and how its wired can get you some good advice. |
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do you have power at the outlet? Is this switch still wired between the light and the outlet.There is only one switch you are using to control the outlet/light ( both?) If there is power at the outlet and you are trying to only control one side of it did you break out the tang between the screws? . My though is that your outlet has the power. If this is the case disconnect the black wire from the outlet. You then have a white and a black wire going to the switch. put the black wire coming from the switch to the outlet on one end , then at the outlet connect the black you just removed with the white going to the switch. At the switch you will have black on bottom and white on top on the same side. If this works you need to wrap black tape around the white wire at the outlet and the switch. |
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Glad to hear it :thumbright:
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red_johnny | Re: Here is why I am not around much lately.... | ||
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Thanks, you have been a really good help! I wish I would have spent the time I took running through the dumpster to check how I wired it. BTW I got some more drywall up. Soon more pictures will be here. I just gotta get around to taking them.
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