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Yes RJ thats why I posted here after trying the Camaro web sites and getting no insight whatsoever! I'll try the battery and cable resistance, that sounds like it could be it. It has a 3 year old Optima yellow top. I'll break out the voltmeter when the weather breaks(Now that the season is over)! Thanks again Guys, I'll post my results.
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It is the beginning of the realization of a dream that I've had since before I ever thought I would own my own home, I can tell you that.
I am truly blessed to have this opportunity. I think we are gonna try and get a home improvement loan so we can actually finish the basement. It's pretty much an underground poured cement storage facility right now... Not a lot of fun to hang out in. But it's a good place to make noise! I moved my home office down there too. Since I got my iPhone, I am only on my computer to edit video, and I needed a little more quiet than the living room was providing. So it's off to the dungeon when I need to be Mr. Creative! Works for me.
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Ventus? I thought that was part of the Summitomo line? At least that's how they are here, I think. I will confirm.
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damn... I thought I was doing pretty good when I cleaned house and fixed the little plastic wheely cart with some fibreglass...
you are building a home studio... how cool is that!
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Mate ive been thinking about your neon issue for a while here, and its brought me to a another point, which may or may not be relevant. Can't comment because without "researching that", I don't understand. 
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Good Morning Gurus!
How's things? I'm keeping busy at work. And I am working hard at spending all of that freelance money that I was going to buy a computer with.... My son has been wanting drum lessons for awhile. We actually bought him a set of drums last year, but we have two issues. One is that it is in the basement. An unfinished area, where nobody really hangs out. And two, when he DOES go down there to play, it makes the rest of us want to leave the house! So, I figured since I was spending all this money on new bass guitars and amps and stuff, I would look for a set of electronic drums so that I could get a little closer to having the home recording studio that I've always wanted. The added bonus being that my son can bang away on them with headphones on, and all we would hear is a little tapping noise every once in awhile. So I found a used set. Yamaha DTExpress II. And I am starting to create a makeshift room in the basement for my studio. Fun times! Now I can sign him up for drum lessons, and he can practice as much as he wants. Hopefully I can learn a thing or two as well. I can't play drums worth a crap right now. I kinda thought that being a former motorcyclist, I would have pretty good hand and foot coordination. NOPE! My drumming pretty much sounds like somebody dropped a bunch of cardboard boxes down a long flight of stairs.  So, how was your weekend, folks?
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Mate ive been thinking about your neon issue for a while here, and its brought me to a another point, which may or may not be relevant.
I dont remember which side the L98 has its knock sensor, but if its on the left, having that transformer anywhere near it or its cable is bad for moral no matter how you look at it. If its close enough to the sensor or the cable, the EMT can and will affect the knock sensor and the signal it gives to the ECM, and this could potentially cause your timing to be unduely retarded, which in turn could have an effect on fuel economy and performance.
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Neon transformers create a lot of voltage, as such, that creates what is called "EMI" - Electro-Magnetic Interference. If it's a cheap ass transformer (which I suspect) and poorly grounded or isolated, all hell breaks loose.. This is exactly the same thing i said last time this came up and it was brushed off. Why on earth would they have to splice anything into anything for the neon lights to work? Especially in the steering column or ABS unit. They should connect straight to the battery and be on a relay that is controlled by the on/off switch. Get rid of the neons, they make the car look like a poonce mobile. They look really gumby.
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Considering I am in Torrance and Casey is Australia... I might be able to make it.  Fair bit of a trip for me to make it over there for a quiet beer, but we'll have to see if we can fit that in when im over that way eh? Thanks very much for your kind offer
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Erm... they look modern enough for me mate...
  How modern do you want them?
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I am in a wait state right now. The holidays has really screwed me for time...
What I was "working" on was a killer shortblock that was under a mechanics lien. However, the deal fell through when the person with the lien paid up. Oh well. I am leaning towards 383, now... still researching.
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Any new ideas yet?
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So what suggestions ya got?
 FYI, the transformer for the neons I got now was a upgrade from the first one. It was smaller and this one is the "Gold" version. Not sure what is different cept the looks. About the neons, so it's nto the cars fault but there wiring right? How can I rewire it? Wait. You don't think my car is really going to burn down do you?
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I know you haven't... that's why I keep blaming the shop. They should be shot. Taken outback, given a cigarette, a blindfold and then summarily shot.
And yes, the photo was upside down... it really was confusing the hell outta me.
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I am willing to bet that the transformer itself is the reason for the ABS code. *I* have not wired anything. Are you pertaining to the car itself or just the stereoshops wiring? Edit: that photo is upside down to so the master cylinder is on the oposite side.
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From the comments I suspect that both of you gentlemen are leaning towards keeping the LT-1 and putting the $$$ into a track car. Anyone got a 96 LT-4 Blk on Blk, 6 Sp. Lo. Mi, reasonable $$ for sale or trade? Considering I am in Torrance and Casey is Australia... I might be able to make it.
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I am willing to bet that the transformer itself is the reason for the ABS code.
Neon transformers create a lot of voltage, as such, that creates what is called "EMI" - Electro-Magnetic Interference. If it's a cheap ass transformer (which I suspect) and poorly grounded or isolated, all hell breaks loose. That's why your ignition is not the cause of the radio quitting. The shield your dad made is not a bad idea, but really, a waste of time. It's masking whatever is really wrong with the install. And judging from the wiring job(s) done on that car, I am surprised it hasn't melted down. Seriously.
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Federal is an old brand. Not all that bad, just not all that modern, IIRC.
I have had Generals, and I will NEVER own those pigs ever again. I swear... I had them back in the mid-80s and the sidewalls all bulged on all 4 tires. They rode like CRAP. Handled worse. I ditched them with 15k miles, and at the time, I was a poor college student, so as far as I was concerned, a waste of money. I was expecting 40k or more miles from them. For several years after that, I checked Generals on other cars, and so many of them had the same sidewall bulging going on.
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I'm in for a set of bearings in Jan. I could also use a cross - brace, front tapered bearings, camber brace, another LT-4, etc. I registered long ago, but the slow speed was killing me. Much better now and the response time is great. I've had my 96 for about 3-4 years I've bent and busted a few knuckles, so if I can assist anyone with a little info I sure will. Nice to be here in the company of Corvette People. I doubt we will get LT4 GPs, that would be pricy... JrRifleCoach is working on other bearing related GPs, I think another rear one has been started. The front bearings are problematic because of the ABS sensor, so I can't speak for any part availability there.
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Maybe you should have more group purchases. well, duh. But at the same time, they are not the easiest things to put together. JrRifleCoach brought it over here because the nimrods in charge at CF wouldn't permit it there. Their loss, our gain. We have plans for future offers, just need to find the ones that help folks the most.
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I'm in for a set of bearings in Jan. I could also use a cross - brace, front tapered bearings, camber brace, another LT-4, etc. I registered long ago, but the slow speed was killing me. Much better now and the response time is great. I've had my 96 for about 3-4 years I've bent and busted a few knuckles, so if I can assist anyone with a little info I sure will. Nice to be here in the company of Corvette People.
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In answear to your question on how to hide the wires better I would say with that set up you have two options. #1 Drill a hole into the box and run it through the box then seal the holes with silicone. #2 buy some wire loom and that way only the loom will show.
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Well in that situation I think I would lean toward a C-6. But thats just me.
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From the comments I suspect that both of you gentlemen are leaning towards keeping the LT-1 and putting the $$$ into a track car. Anyone got a 96 LT-4 Blk on Blk, 6 Sp. Lo. Mi, reasonable $$ for sale or trade?
Case, Bogus thanks for your input, I'd like to invite you both over to afternoon of garage talk and B/S session sometime, beers on me.
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This is the only pic I have right now.
 The other neons I have seen are hidden and under the actual car.
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Maybe you should have more group purchases.
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That is a really stupid place for the transformer. There shouldnt be any ABS wiring in that area with the exception of the front left wheel sensor wiring. Thats what I said to. It should be near the horn area where there is no heat. I asked them to move it but they said it wouldn't make a difference.
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You need to learn automotive electrics. In your area, you could - hell WILL - get rich doing this work the right way. Tried to get in automotive class in highschool. It was booked both semesters. I can look but I don't think the college I am at right now offers automotive classes but I could be wrong. Well, I could practice on my car. trying to figure out whats going on. When we had the shield made, my dad drilled a small hole in it ran a wire thru it and attached the wire to the chassis with a screw to ground it out. When he told the radio shop this, they said that might help because it gives off "waves". I have seen alot of cars here with neons and there brakes don't mess up. Chillcat had them on his vette and his didn't mess up. On the underside of the car, the metal lines, are those not the brake lines? That is where my bulbs are hanging. I got a pic of that to. Ill post it. I wonder if it's heating them up, causing the fluid to boil? 
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The power switch is below the steering wheel though. Is there any wiring in there where they may have spliced it into it? I take that back, it has to be spliced into to something in there to draw its power.
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High stall converter will fix the drop off issue.
I havent heard anything about the 6 speed autos yet to know if they are any good or not, id imagine they will have some teething issues with the first couple batches, but only time will tell on that one.
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Yeah they were on the car when i got it, were near brand new at the time, but they didnt last long, the other 2 tires that also came with the car have about half or abit less tread on them, so they are really going the distance quite well. They are Federal.
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I have never done Summitomo's... on any of my cars. My mom has a set on her Acura, tho. Not a bad tire, really.
I have had good luck with Falken, tho. They just don't seem to last all that long.
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The clutch becomes a problem with the ZF6 when more power is added... most aftermarket firms (see, there it is again) are not building good enough product to allow the clutch to work properly.
SPEC sells garbage - ask me how I know. The latest word on the street has their versions of the Valeo pressure plate being out of balance! I don't know that for fact, but gee, it wouldn't surprise me. When I had a SPEC installed 5 years ago, it had serious fitment issues, hell, they sold me the wrong part... but others, at the time, were having other fitment issues. I will say that Mcleod has a good rep and Centerforce isn't too bad either. But all three of the companies have a history of explosions! I suspect it's a combo of too much power and a lot of abuse, tho... As for your comments, you are right, but the litany of caveats you give should allow most ANY automatic to last, but the bottom line is still the same - add power, get it built right and is might be ok. The concern I have is that a lot of companies over here are NOT building it right. To be honest, the only person I would trust with one is Pete K. The real problem with the A4 is the drop off in gear ratio... first is rather steep, then 2nd is a fall and 3rd another fall. It really tears them up. That is really the problem, GM needed a 5spd auto, but didn't invest in one. I suspect the new 6spd auto is going to be a lot better. I don't know why I say that, it's just a gut feeling.
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They did change the cam in 1993.
However, this is a long block without intake or accessories. So those changes are not relevant. As for the powered rods, I would expect it has those, simply because the engine is listed as being for 1992-1994 Corvette, which leads me to believe it's a later build. And as far as long blocks, that will fit with zero problems.
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I agree on both counts. The ABS computer is behind the drivers seat in the storage bin.
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The 94's biggest upgrade was external - the better ECU, but the biggest change came in 95 with the gen 2 opti. There is abit more to it than that, the intake is different, the fuel rail is different, the injectors are different, and towards the later 1/4 of the 94 production the rods changed to a powdered metal. I think youll find the cam specs may even be a touch different in 94 as well, but im not certain on that.
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My 96 is a weekend driver/track car, and working on it is my therapy and hobby. Mate you can do whatever you like with them as long as you look after it and keep it well serviced, they are no where near as weak as Bogus would like to have everyone believe. What he doesnt tell you is most of these transmissions that die are probably as a result of one of the following: *not being rebuilt properly, *not being cooled properly, *not being suitibly built for a moddified engine, *not being serviced regularly enough And there is no way he can prove otherwise. Quote: We have had this debate, and I think we simply have to agree to disagree. Yes indeed we have, and yes we do agree to dissagree, but youre potentially misleading people by giving such an opinion without stating it as such. If you state that its your opinion, then its no longer misleading. In my opinion, the clutch that leaves the factory with the ZF is of a very poor standard from what ive heard.
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That is a really stupid place for the transformer. There shouldnt be any ABS wiring in that area with the exception of the front left wheel sensor wiring.
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I get whatever fits on the day. Isnt all that easy to find tires in this size. I had Kellys on my 87 and they were an exceptional tire, the set lasted 6 years easily. Im using Hankook on the 94 and they are quite good too. Anything but Sumitomo HTRs, they wore down in no time flat.
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I am glad you all enjoyed the GP so much! Now... don't just GP and run! Stick around, post some, say high. Don't be strangers.
We are not the corporate Internet... for sites like this, I don't believe in it. I prefer the free interchange of ideas and products, not some restricted 1984-like world. Visit! Be a part of the Guru family!
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You need to learn automotive electrics. In your area, you could - hell WILL - get rich doing this work the right way.
The best way to learn? PRACTICE. Take some basic electricity classes, take some automotive repair classes apply the two skills and you are set.
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Did I see elsewhere that there is some prospect of front bearings becoming
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I have already been in touch with JrRifleCoach but thought that
I should post here that my bearings arrived in Canada on 11/29 while I was out of town. The parts were well packed and USPS/CanPost were careful in their handling of the parcel. JRC, you have done a great job. I'm very pleased. .
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I know some folks using the A4 as an autocross car... but not as a road course car.
As an autox'r it's pretty good, just leave it in 2nd... As for a road course, I donno how well it would work, the drop off from 2nd to 3rd is a bit harsh.
Posted on: 2007/12/8 23:54
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My 96 is a weekend driver/track car, and working on it is my therapy and hobby.
A C-6 would be a weekend driver and sometimes DD I don't think I would put it on the track for some time. It has a 4L60, has anyone put a 4L60 on a track?
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 [/img]This is a pic of the transformer for the neons. If you look to the side, see how close it is to the master cylinder? I talked to a member from the other forum and he said that they may have tapped the power into the ABS power source. When the car is turned off and the ignition is OUT, and the neons are running purely off the transformer, wait about 10 minutes. turn off the neons, turn on the car, the abs light is lit up. Strange huh?
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The shop did everything. I iwill try to get a pic of the battery where the wiring is mounted.
So how do I hide the wires better? I need to try to move the amp as little as possible because the wires are not held in. They took the ends and cut off the insulation layer, and spred the copper inside and then put it on there. That make sense? So yea, can it be "cleaned up" a little or...am I just up the shit creek without a paddle...
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Golan has an entry level 383 that they are selling for $5200.
It kinda puts that price into perspective. The 94's biggest upgrade was external - the better ECU, but the biggest change came in 95 with the gen 2 opti. Otherwise, the 92-94 LT1 is the same piece.
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We have a membership. And yes, the local talent that works in those places is a bit, uh, scary.
I deal with Tire Rack, pretty much exclusively. I have them dropped shipped to a local vendor and that's that. The local guys do a real nice install and a great price. Can't beat'm. I am going to redo the front screen, and we have Tire Rack as a sponser. Can't wait!
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