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This is the manual transmission from 1984-1988.

It’s a Borg-Warner Super T-10 with a planetary overdrive attached to the tail shaft housing.
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92LRC Intake gasket swap out complete (almost)
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Well I’ve just about finished replacing the intake manifold gaskets (had an oil leak). Also cleaned up and painted the manifold while I was at it.
I say almost complete because it looks like the throttle cable connection is sticking a little and producing really high rev’s.
Any suggestions here?
Is there some type of lube I should put on this?
Anyway here’s a few pics of the project as it went along (sorry no pics of the re-install I ran out of batteries for the camera).

The nastiness that was my TB and intake. I’m pretty sure these items had never been cleaned before (car has 112K).
[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/92LRC/IMGP0821.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/92LRC/IMGP0830.jpg[/IMG]

I had to practically chisel out the old TB gasket because it had hardened and welded itself to the intake.
[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/92LRC/IMGP0839.jpg[/IMG]

I took a tip from another poster about using a shop vac to get all the coolant out (I changed that while I was at it)
[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/92LRC/IMGP0822.jpg[/IMG]

Got the boy to lend a hand
[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/92LRC/IMGP0828.jpg[/IMG]

Almost 3 cans of TB cleaner and this is what was left at the bottm of the pan
[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/92LRC/IMGP0844.jpg[/IMG]

Cleaned up painted and just about ready to go.
[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/92LRC/IMGP0843.jpg[/IMG]

Freshly cleaned out TB installed and basically finished product (I hope I put it all back together right at least I didn’t have any left over parts:lol
[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/92LRC/IMGP0848.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/92LRC/IMGP0852.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/92LRC/IMGP0853.jpg[/IMG]
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pianoguy Re: Intake gasket swap out complete (almost)
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Nice job!! Maybe some kind of dry lube that wouldn't gunk up with dirt?
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Came out real nice
Posted on: 2009/4/9 13:58
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92LRC Re: Intake gasket swap out complete (almost)
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Came out real nice


not as nice as your avatar

thanks
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BillH Re: Intake gasket swap out complete (almost)
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No, don't lube the cable, not a good idea.
When you cleaned the throttlebody, did you pull the Idle Air Control valve?
If not, it wouldn't supprise me that there's some gunk in it from the cleaning causing your problem.
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92LRC Re: Intake gasket swap out complete (almost)
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No, don't lube the cable, not a good idea.
When you cleaned the throttlebody, did you pull the Idle Air Control valve?
If not, it wouldn't supprise me that there's some gunk in it from the cleaning causing your problem.


I didn't remove it during cleaning. How do I get to it now? Do I have to remove the TB again (please say no)?
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Shouldn't.

It just takes a big socket, but you should be able to get it with the TB on.

For some reason, a questionable IAC becomes bad when the TB is cleaned...
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BillH Re: Intake gasket swap out complete (almost)
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Yea, sorry. But at least it's clean now and the gasker shouldn't stick.

But, first, verify that the cable isn't sticking. First, look just above the throttle spring & cable assy., there's a set screw that the throttle stop (black) rests against at idle. Is the stop against that screw? Slowly open the throttle a little with your foot and let off slowly. Is that stop still against that screw? If there's a gap, something's sticking, may be cable,may be the throttle body. You may want to pull the cable off the TB and run it with your hand at close to the length where it idles, if you don't feel any thing, the cable's OK. Now run the TB w/o the cable attached open & shut slowly to check for stick.

If all that's Ok, now pull the TB. The IAC is under the throttle position sw. (large wrench size). Pull it and take a look. DO NOT push or pull on the pintle. You can clean any deposites with the TB cleaner. The FSM states "do not remove the thread locking compound on the threads id you're going to reinstall". On reinstall, start the eng for 5 seconds and turn it off for 10 seconds. Than restart and and check idle speed.
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92LRC Re: Intake gasket swap out complete (almost)
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Yea, sorry. But at least it's clean now and the gasker shouldn't stick.

But, first, verify that the cable isn't sticking. First, look just above the throttle spring & cable assy., there's a set screw that the throttle stop (black) rests against at idle. Is the stop against that screw? Slowly open the throttle a little with your foot and let off slowly. Is that stop still against that screw? If there's a gap, something's sticking, may be cable,may be the throttle body. You may want to pull the cable off the TB and run it with your hand at close to the length where it idles, if you don't feel any thing, the cable's OK. Now run the TB w/o the cable attached open & shut slowly to check for stick.

If all that's Ok, now pull the TB. The IAC is under the throttle position sw. (large wrench size). Pull it and take a look. DO NOT push or pull on the pintle. You can clean any deposites with the TB cleaner. The FSM states "do not remove the thread locking compound on the threads id you're going to reinstall". On reinstall, start the eng for 5 seconds and turn it off for 10 seconds. Than restart and and check idle speed.


I'll try that later because that is exactly where it's sticking. The black piece stays about 1/16" to 1/8" off the stop. I can move it back manually and then it will stay there but as soon as I give it gas it goes back to the being off.

Thanks I'll post results.
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You could be experiencing a worn throttle body, which is common (happened on mine). The shaft that holds the butterflys wears an uneven pattern into the side of the TB and causes it to stick slightly. Sometimes you'll notice when you pull out to a light the RPMs are too high, but if you blip the throttle it goes away.

You can use some graphite to lubricate the shaft, which is what I did and it works like a champ. Some people send their TBs out to get the shaft hole bored out and a bushing installed, but I haven't seen the need yet.

Other than that congrats - looks good!

Matthew
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You could be experiencing a worn throttle body, which is common (happened on mine). The shaft that holds the butterflys wears an uneven pattern into the side of the TB and causes it to stick slightly. Sometimes you'll notice when you pull out to a light the RPMs are too high, but if you blip the throttle it goes away.

You can use some graphite to lubricate the shaft, which is what I did and it works like a champ. Some people send their TBs out to get the shaft hole bored out and a bushing installed, but I haven't seen the need yet.

Other than that congrats - looks good!

Matthew


first let me say that your avatar is also excellent

I don't think it's the TB shaft only because it was fine until I cleaned it.

I pulled on the cable a couple of times and it seems to have reset itself. I'm going to take it for a long drive tomorrow (no time today) and see how it works out then.

Thanks for the input.
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92LRC Re: Intake gasket swap out complete (almost)
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this car is going to eventually make me lose my mind (or what's left of it).

The idle seems to be ok now so that prob is solved. But it still seems to be leaking, less but still there. I just took it for a 10 mile ride and I was smokin when I got back and I saw a new spot on the garage floor.

To top it off I broke the alternator connector so I've got to go and buy the replacement part for that.

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How long did you wait before firing it up?

You need at least 24hr for the sealant on the 'china wall' to cure.

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first let me say that your avatar is also excellent


Bounce bounce bounce
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How long did you wait before firing it up?

You need at least 24hr for the sealant on the 'china wall' to cure.

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first let me say that your avatar is also excellent


Bounce bounce bounce


Waited about 18 hours, the suspense was killing me.
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BillH Re: Intake gasket swap out complete (almost)
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How long did you wait before firing it up?

You need at least 24hr for the sealant on the 'china wall' to cure.



Not necessarly so when using the Right Stuff, Brian.
Done correctly, you can almost dive it immeadiately.
I drove mine right after I finished the assembly and haven't had a leak. That was 3 years ago.
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92LRC Re: Intake gasket swap out complete (almost)
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It gets better!

Now I have what seems to be AF pooling on the block.

[IMG]http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb33/92LRC/IMGP0871a.jpg[/IMG]

Any suggestions? Thanks
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Any suggestions? Thanks


Get a pressure checker.
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