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BrianCunningham | Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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No, that wasn't a typo, they actually made them
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Posted on: 2009/6/5 17:24
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Durango_Boy | Re: Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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There was a concept ZR-2 C4 I think, but I don't believe it ever made it to production.
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Posted on: 2009/6/5 18:22
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pianoguy | Re: Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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Sweet!
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Posted on: 2009/6/5 18:39
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CSS996 | Re: Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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I've read several Corvette books, and never heard a mention of a ZR-2.
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Posted on: 2009/6/5 18:47
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Sweet90 | Re: Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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In 1971 there was only 10 or maybe 12 made. I also thought there was a mock up or pre-production C4 ZR2, but I've been wrong before. Jim |
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Posted on: 2009/6/5 19:38
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BrianCunningham | Re: Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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The C4 ZR-2 was in the museum when I was there.
real cool seeing a rat motor in a C4 |
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Posted on: 2009/6/5 21:04
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BrianCunningham | Re: Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1971-corvette.htm Quote: The ZR1 option available exclusively with the LT1 is significant for engineering, though not many saw production. It was a special racing package that included the solid-lifter small-block engine, heavy-duty four-speed transmission, power brakes, aluminum radiator, and a revised suspension with special springs, shocks, stabilizer bar, and spindle-strut shafts. Since it was competition equipment, the ZR1 could not be ordered with power windows, power steering, air conditioning, a rear-window defogger, wheel covers, or a radio. But the ZR1 package was quite expensive, and few Corvettes were so equipped. |
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Posted on: 2009/6/5 21:07
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ghoffman | Re: Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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That is what they should of offered in leiu of the LT-5. An aluminum Rat weighs less and the power is essentially unlimited. I like my 427!!
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Posted on: 2009/6/5 22:15
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Jeffvette | Re: Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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Except GM did not know how to build a motor. Hence Lotus. |
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Posted on: 2009/6/6 5:54
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ghoffman | Re: Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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The big block made more power than the Lotus, and the new LS series all smoke the LT-5. Seems like they know very well how to make a motor. At a dyno day a couple of years ago, a stone stock LS7 made about 120 RWHP more than a chipped LT-5. Even back then, the LS6 454 crate motor made about 90 more HP than the LT5 and did not weigh any more. I just think Dave McClellan had a 4 cam and bad hair fetish.
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bogus | Re: Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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I think you nailed it. Dave beleived that for the C4 to go upmarket, it had to have a twin cam, multivalve V8.
It was the engine architecture that Ferrari, Porsche, Lambo, BMW and Mercedes had been using for years. Hense, the perception was that upmarket had to have those features. An interesting side bar, the Rolls/Bentley V8 was a cribbing of the Packard V8 from the late 1950s... It was pushrod 2 valve. No one questioned that one, eh? They brought Lotus in because they did have more experience in that arena. GM also owned Lotus at the time, so they might as well use the resource. So yes, GM DID develop the engine, if you want to get technical about it. The bigblock would not work as a practical solution in the Vette. Weight wasn't the only issue, it was pure size. It is just such a tight fit and with space at such a premium, the air flow would have been affected. That's my thought at least. Besides, it was old school technology. Think about it: If you wanted to attract the Ferrari/Porsche crowd to your car, which engine is going to do it better? A refined, powerful, high-tech V8 with twin cams and 32 valves, or, a big block, all iron, with pushrods and 16 valves, whose lineage goes back to 1964? I spoke with Dave about this, and it is also in his book, but the LT5 was concieved to be THE engine in the C5. But the engine team at GM built the LS1 and the rest was history. That and the fact that the C5 was delay 3 years. It was lighter, it was amply powerful, significantly simpler and cheaper. When ODBII entered on the stage for 1996, they junked the LT5 and committed to the LS1. I would love to build a C5 with and LT5 in it, but the question I have is whether it would physically fit! My bigger question is this: Why didn't they adapt the LT5 ignition system onto the LT1? |
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Jeffvette | Re: Corvette ZR-2 | ||
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Newer LS series can thank the LT5 program for the development. As far as a LS6 454, It does not idle as nice, get the best gas mileage, nor would it be the best at beating the best the world had to offer back in 89. |
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Posted on: 2009/6/6 22:04
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